Where is the logic?

QueenGaia - Archosaur
QueenGaia - Archosaur Posts: 16 Arc User
edited March 2011 in General Discussion
I'm sent on a quest to do Pterosaur in Heaven's Tear. You surround them with higher level mobs that aggro. Why?

Did you seriously think this would be "fun"? This is not the first area this has happened, either. Not going to make me run to the cash shop. 30 years of playing and never seen this kind of noobism from devs.
But what to expect from them when they can't remember to include their own music files at startup.

It's a shame that the artists who made the game visually appealing must work with people who fry brain cells just getting out of bed.
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  • zizoun
    zizoun Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Lol so much rage for mobs that aggro :S

    If you don't like the spot just go find another one, you have ptrosaurs at hidden orchid aswell...
    I think you're overeacting here, from all the QQ posts in this forum this is one of the most fails tbh. Game is already way to easy as how it was few years ago, if you can't deal with it or not skilled enough I'm afraid is not your game :(
  • VeonitaMysti - Dreamweaver
    VeonitaMysti - Dreamweaver Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    to make it a greater challange.
    squad up with others and u'll have it easy on that one.
    these dragons are also at an other place where u do not aggro that much.

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  • Raequel - Dreamweaver
    Raequel - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    It's a video game. Not everything is always as easy as you hope it to be.

    Quests like this actually TEACH you how to play the game with a certain amount of strategy. There ARE ways to deal with mobs and area's like that. Think of ways around it. You'll be surprised how simple it is.

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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Learn how to position yourself properly in reference to surrounding mobs and you'll be fine. Situational awareness is extremely helpful for stuff like this.

    Or, if you still have troubles with it, do as someone else suggested and squad up. There's always people out there working on that quest.
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  • Meyki - Sanctuary
    Meyki - Sanctuary Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    QueenGaia: Try Zeal genie, the initial skill will help you a lot in this kind of situation.
  • QueenGaia - Archosaur
    QueenGaia - Archosaur Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    zizoun wrote: »
    Lol so much rage for mobs that aggro :S

    If you don't like the spot just go find another one, you have ptrosaurs at hidden orchid aswell...
    I think you're overeacting here, from all the QQ posts in this forum this is one of the most fails tbh. Game is already way to easy as how it was few years ago, if you can't deal with it or not skilled enough I'm afraid is not your game :(


    You are missing the point here. It's not about "spots". It's about creating quests and adding mobs too high of a level. There is no logic behind it.
  • netoperusnovo
    netoperusnovo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I think your expectations went too high from such long term playing - I had the same problem. On another note, don't try to do everything solo in any mmorpgs - it leads to more frustration. And finally, the harder a game is, the better in my opinion.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    QueenGaia - Archosaur wrote: »
    You are missing the point here. It's not about "spots". It's about creating quests and adding mobs too high of a level. There is no logic behind it.
    See,
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Learn how to position yourself properly in reference to surrounding mobs and you'll be fine. Situational awareness is extremely helpful for stuff like this.

    Or, if you still have troubles with it, do as someone else suggested and squad up. There's always people out there working on that quest.
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    Raequel - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    It's a video game. Not everything is always as easy as you hope it to be.

    Quests like this actually TEACH you how to play the game with a certain amount of strategy. There ARE ways to deal with mobs and area's like that. Think of ways around it. You'll be surprised how simple it is.

    b:bye

    The purpose of things like that is teaching you just how to play your class well and be situationally aware. Both of which are rather vital later on and make a major difference for those who participate in large-scale PvP. On top of that, as has been pointed out, there are alternative spawn points for those mobs. So even if that area was too tough, there are other places you could have gone to get that quest done. As well as with the option of squad based gameplay to allow higher level mobs to be less of an issue? Honestly I don't see what you're complaining about here.
  • QueenGaia - Archosaur
    QueenGaia - Archosaur Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    netoperusnovo wrote: »
    I think your expectations went too high from such long term playing - I had the same problem. On another note, don't try to do everything solo in any mmorpgs - it leads to more frustration. And finally, the harder a game is, the better in my opinion.

    Funny, the more I play, the more I want to shove a +100 sword up the devs butts.
  • zizoun
    zizoun Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    QueenGaia - Archosaur wrote: »
    Funny, the more I play, the more I want to shove a +100 sword up the devs butts.

    Then I suggest you to quit, games are supposed to be fun.
  • Raequel - Dreamweaver
    Raequel - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    If you don't like it, don't play.

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  • QueenGaia - Archosaur
    QueenGaia - Archosaur Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    zizoun wrote: »
    Then I suggest you to quit, games are supposed to be fun.

    It was a joke, little one. Don't you have some teen angst thing to do?
  • Barunaa - Heavens Tear
    Barunaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    LMAO...........

    you have to be the first person in this entire games history to QQ about such a stupid topic like this. u have to be a troll.

    i mean seriously of all the BS to QQ about and u QQ about lvl 4x mobs aggroing u.

    good game QQers, good game.rb:fatb
  • Raequel - Dreamweaver
    Raequel - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    QueenGaia - Archosaur wrote: »
    Don't you have some teen angst thing to do?

    b:surrender Now that's just mean. Not all teens have the whole angst thing goin on. Most are actually normal.

    And I agree with the others. Stop QQing about a few mobs. Grow up and act your age.
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  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    To make things clear...

    I did that quest with different classes at the level you get without agroing a single lv.40 one(Well maybe just a few times),all I did was just PAY ATTENTION to my surroundings,how hard is that?
    Also as others said,there are other spots,personally on my last alt(Mystic),I went on one of the 2 Dark Towers near Timberfield,above these,there are ONLY the red dragons,and guess what,it was a joke,fast and easy(Except getting there).

    So if you have any SERIOUS trouble on avoiding some randomly lv.40 mobs you either are horrifying bad at playing this game or there's something wrong with you,because the quest is perfectly fine as is.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Think it as immersion :
    Imagine yourself near a ogre cave, as a newbie you surely only want to beat the ogre kids, minions, or slaves. You know it's going to be hard if you face to face with the adult ones. So you will play carefully and try to not the adult ones notice you.

    Or when you trapped in dinosaur island do you expect to see the small ones far away from the big one ?

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  • oxytorch
    oxytorch Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    QueenGaia - Archosaur wrote: »
    I'm sent on a quest to do Pterosaur in Heaven's Tear. You surround them with higher level mobs that aggro. Why?

    Did you seriously think this would be "fun"? This is not the first area this has happened, either. Not going to make me run to the cash shop. 30 years of playing and never seen this kind of noobism from devs.
    But what to expect from them when they can't remember to include their own music files at startup.

    It's a shame that the artists who made the game visually appealing must work with people who fry brain cells just getting out of bed.


    OP is very smart to have twigged onto PWI's capper so soon , it usually takes other new comers a few months to cotton on . Ballz to you Sir/Madam .
    This game USED to be good , this game USED to be, what you call it?.. Fun !! Now it's just one of those run-of-the-mill cash cows that gets milked for all its worth . I urge you , dont spend money on this broken game, i stopped a lonnnnnng time ago when it turned to effluent .

    b:cry b:cry b:cry
    b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry We love this game STOP RUINING IT !! b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry

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  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    QueenGaia - Archosaur wrote: »
    I'm sent on a quest to do Pterosaur in Heaven's Tear. You surround them with higher level mobs that aggro. Why?

    Did you seriously think this would be "fun"? This is not the first area this has happened, either. Not going to make me run to the cash shop. 30 years of playing and never seen this kind of noobism from devs.
    But what to expect from them when they can't remember to include their own music files at startup.

    It's a shame that the artists who made the game visually appealing must work with people who fry brain cells just getting out of bed.

    30 years of playing ? >.> You grew up with Atari and Intellivision.

    For years and years, games only got WORSE in general. I thought you already learned this the hard way, noob devs will continue to ruin your gaming.

    Where's the logic ? Where's the game, you mean ? There is none, it's all just bussiness plans coming from cash-swinging stock-holders.
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  • Baoxian - Raging Tide
    Baoxian - Raging Tide Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    If you are qqing about Mobs 4 or 5 levels higher then you.
    Then you will love it, to get your lvl4 Pharmacist Skill at lvl50.
    The NPC is surrounded by lvl73~75 Aggro Range-Mobs.
    b:chuckle
  • fiercerage
    fiercerage Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Am I seriously looking at a "game is too hard" thread?
  • Healforwimps - Heavens Tear
    Healforwimps - Heavens Tear Posts: 152 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    truekossy wrote: »
    See,

    and


    The purpose of things like that is teaching you just how to play your class well and be situationally aware. Both of which are rather vital later on and make a major difference for those who participate in large-scale PvP. On top of that, as has been pointed out, there are alternative spawn points for those mobs. So even if that area was too tough, there are other places you could have gone to get that quest done. As well as with the option of squad based gameplay to allow higher level mobs to be less of an issue? Honestly I don't see what you're complaining about here.

    I don't think any of that actually applies anymore since hypers/oracles/frost.
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Baoxian - Raging Tide wrote: »
    If you are qqing about Mobs 4 or 5 levels higher then you.
    Then you will love it, to get your lvl4 Pharmacist Skill at lvl50.
    The NPC is surrounded by lvl73~75 Aggro Range-Mobs.
    b:chuckle

    in the mid-4x levels, quests start sending you out to kill mobs 5-7 levels above your own. squishies get to learn how to pick their fights and their battlefields by then, i'm just saying.
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  • Anhka - Sanctuary
    Anhka - Sanctuary Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    QueenGaia - Archosaur wrote: »
    You are missing the point here. It's not about "spots". It's about creating quests and adding mobs too high of a level. There is no logic behind it.

    This quest isn't new. I've done it on archer, wizard, veno, BM and cleric. I can't believe people are now complaining about it. You need to know when to run and when to keep fighting, and to watch your surroundings. It's easier to escape when you're overwhelmed by dropping from the sky. That's all there is to it.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    LOL! If you think this is bad, it's not. Wait till you get the Heavenwear Fragment quest. I think that's what it's called... Heavenwear... Heavenweaver... whatever. You will learn a whole new world of crying. You may possibly rage quit. I know you'll certainly come here to whine more.

    God forbid, a game that has a few quests that aren't easy to do... zomg devs must be insane?!? No, you're just.... oh wait, I'd get banned for saying it. lol

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  • Anhka - Sanctuary
    Anhka - Sanctuary Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Heavenwear was horrible because kills made by squadmates wouldn't count for everyone in the squad. lol
  • Yhumy - Dreamweaver
    Yhumy - Dreamweaver Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Have u ever done the lvl 100 kill quests? They are simply kill 200 of this mob surrounded by other mobs

    Excuse spelling typing on phone in boring class
  • Haza - Heavens Tear
    Haza - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    There is no Logic without reason..and the reason is....................there is none..but plenty of alternative quick lvling options..thank the devs for that,
  • Logic - Raging Tide
    Logic - Raging Tide Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'm over here. What do you want?b:angry
  • QueenGaia - Archosaur
    QueenGaia - Archosaur Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    oxytorch wrote: »
    OP is very smart to have twigged onto PWI's capper so soon , it usually takes other new comers a few months to cotton on . Ballz to you Sir/Madam .
    This game USED to be good , this game USED to be, what you call it?.. Fun !! Now it's just one of those run-of-the-mill cash cows that gets milked for all its worth . I urge you , dont spend money on this broken game, i stopped a lonnnnnng time ago when it turned to effluent .

    b:cry b:cry b:cry

    Thank you for understanding. The rest I leave to typical mass histeria who'd kill to steal a can of beans in the event of a world war.
  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    um.... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I've got a archer 70, sin 70 Veno 82, TWO clerics at 45, Psy at 45.. o ya a mini veno at 30 (but idk if that was high enough to do THIS quest)..... I've NEVER needed help on a friggin quest unless it involved a boss i couldn't take myself. And that includes THIS quest you're whining about.

    But you're worried about the lvl 40. green dinos flying around the red ones? Every time i did that quest i aggroed a black one AND some lvl 40 green ones here and there..... guess what? They die pretty easy. The fact you're on here whining about THIS........ just quit the game now. Or at least DON"T come to HT... i dont' want to deal with peo0ple that suck THIS badly in one of my random squads for something.

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