Vortex/Aoes and weapon addons

Zyhark - Lost City
Zyhark - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
edited March 2011 in Seeker
Ok, so the new Vortex is supposed to be an extreme mana draining skill, while being able to deal damage extremely well on groups of mobs.

Can this be used to our advantage? As in, Can ,while this skill is running, Blood Defect or Enlighten proc?
I ask this because, though not seeming like much, 5% mana from Enlighten, being able to proc while attacking 15 mobs, is a good chance that it will proc on every swing. 5% mana is not even close to the amount that is consumed by said skill. But it would help ease the load on the player by possibly allowing the player to get by with only charm and no pots.

Or on the other hand, Blood Defect (which is 10% hp), Could make this into a very easy time tanking with both Blood Paint and Blood Defect if it could proc.

In case of Tl;DR, read this last line.
Can Sword Addons, such as Enlighten and Blood Defect, Porc while in Vortex?

Thanks for your answers and discussion.
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    For a long time now, archer weapon addons proc when using BoA. I guess it would work the same with the seeker AoE.

    From what I read, the seeker AoE at lvl10 is more mana intensive than demon BoA which consumes around 650 mana every 3 seconds. Given the mana requirement, I doubt this skill can be used to its full potential outside of RB. If you intend to use it outside, I would suggest keeping it at lvl1 or max lvl2.

    Why? Even at lvl1, it would dish out considerable damage.

    lvl10 BoA deals 200% weapon damage + 4585.6 every 3 seconds
    lvl1 Vortex would deal 110% weapon damage + 8982.4 every 3 seconds

    Accpeted the base weapon damage of a ranged weapon is much higher than a sword...but lvl1 is still damaging considering a seeker would have much better def and HP than an equally geared archer.
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    578.2 Mana every 3 seconds is still a ridiculous amount for a HA class. :|
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  • Zyhark - Lost City
    Zyhark - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I know weapon addons will proc with BM aoes and such, but as this is a "continue until man is too low or cancelled skill, it may be different)

    Also it is more mana draining, but as I want to use this skill as a zhen/power leveling tool, I would like to keep it to level.

    I believe with a good weapon(I'm thinking along the lines of Gold Dragons Voyage[ http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/20265 ] with enlighten) that the increased damage would outweigh the increased mana consumption. But as I am not high level yet with my seeker(level 31 currently, taking it nice and slow) , I have plenty of time to find out things and decide on my options.
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  • Kisame_H - Sanctuary
    Kisame_H - Sanctuary Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Elviron - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    For a long time now, archer weapon addons proc when using BoA. I guess it would work the same with the seeker AoE.

    From what I read, the seeker AoE at lvl10 is more mana intensive than demon BoA which consumes around 650 mana every 3 seconds. Given the mana requirement, I doubt this skill can be used to its full potential outside of RB. If you intend to use it outside, I would suggest keeping it at lvl1 or max lvl2.

    Why? Even at lvl1, it would dish out considerable damage.

    lvl10 BoA deals 200% weapon damage + 4585.6 every 3 seconds
    lvl1 Vortex would deal 110% weapon damage + 8982.4 every 3 seconds

    Accpeted the base weapon damage of a ranged weapon is much higher than a sword...but lvl1 is still damaging considering a seeker would have much better def and HP than an equally geared archer.

    Seeker deal dmg every 1.5sec, not every 3secb:victory
  • Weeter - Heavens Tear
    Weeter - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I have lvl 9 Vortex the the dmg is extreme.. 406.7 mana a range of 11.6 Meters, Dmg is Base Dmg + 95% Weapon+7430 every 1.5 Seonds. In FF the mobs (20 or more) I can AOE solo with out a cleric jsut give me blood paint.
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    578.2 Mana every 3 seconds is still a ridiculous amount for a HA class. :|
    Archers get around the same mana pool seekers get. Its not much of a difference at lvl1. Would need to spam mana foods to keep it up. Any thing above lvl1 would probably need a mana charm (maybe +mana shards/equips might help as well) to keep it up.
    Kisame_H - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Seeker deal dmg every 1.5sec, not every 3secb:victory
    Read the skill lvl and the damage I mentioned again. It was for comparison sake.
  • Rendrin - Sanctuary
    Rendrin - Sanctuary Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    im using TT90 Gold zerk sword, zerk procs while spinning.

    Even if there is no more target in area zerk keeps procing o.o
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    sounds wonderful, as long as it doesnt drain as much charm as my cleric =P
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  • Swirlz - Lost City
    Swirlz - Lost City Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    sounds Wonderful, As Long As It Doesnt Drain As Much Charm As My Cleric =p

    Moar!
  • Etsuna - Heavens Tear
    Etsuna - Heavens Tear Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    imagine using vortex in rb while wearing Unbowed One dual blades... b:dirty
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    you dont really need hp recovering procs. with bp, a crappy geared seeker can solo a full pull in the exp room. yes, no bb, no cleric.

    the mana drain is quite a lot but i think that can be covered by a charm even at lvl10.
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  • Zyhark - Lost City
    Zyhark - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I know I don't really need them. But it could be useful on single targets or PVP(yes I know sacstrike would be better for pvp). I'd much rather the Mp recovering proc. Would be useful to not hurt the charm as much.
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