MegaQQ: mystic has pvp push!

Vasilisk - Harshlands wrote: »

Damn, archers was long time like invalid because all push skills not working in PVP. And now new race released and what?! They hav our push b:angry b:cry b:angry

Yeah, I noticed that today. Mystics get push back in PVP, while wizards and archers and psychics, and ALL the other classes dont. What gives? Nothing against Mystics, but if they get push back, why cant my wizard have it too?

GrimReaperHC wrote: »

Archers are so epic that we don't need knockback b:chuckle Though a knockback would mean kiting BMs all day long b:dirty

it would mean cata barbs not being able to leaving their base due to being pushed back

I wants me knockback nao.

If we think hypothetically, stun and freeze might also keep catapult pullers from leaving their base, but for some reason they still manage to get out of their bases.

Personally I'd prefer a Distance Shrink or a Leap skill on archers instead lol

Problem with Push Back in pvp would be if you cant defend it. I honestly dont know how the Mystic skill works in PvP. Would a free moment skill, like Maze Steps, WoG or Will of B prevent getting Pushed Back? If not its definitely stupid.

If the Knocks Back from Tornado (or w/e its called) isn't labeled as a "negative status effect" and not a movement status effect either, it really is MegaQQ for mele classes.

I mean you wont be able to use skills/genie/pot to prevent getting pushed backed. The channeling is almost instant and its not that long cooldown either. Stuns, seals, paralyzes etc can all be avoided rather easy but how would you counter a knock back? I guess BMs can use Leap and get back in mele range rather fast, sins can use their teles. But what about barbs getting knocked back b:shocked

I think its probably one of those things that will change in future patches tho, but who knows, tideborn self-buffs still cant get purged for example.

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

It also depends on the cast range of the knockback. If it were like archers it'd be very ****ed up lol.

I don't think it'd be that big of a problem IF mystics have few other disables. If they lack readily available seal, sleep, stun, freeze like other classes and this is the only thing they have, then whatever is all I gotta say. Personally I haven't looked at their skill tree yet because logging onto a Mystic at starter areas lags too much for me lol.

Mystic Control Skills:

Listless Blossom
Small chances to sleep Anyone in AoE range for 6 seconds over the duration of a minute (Plant can easily be 1-shot). Lysing can be used afterward to detonate the plant and have a high % chance to AoE sleep for 13 seconds at max level.

Gale Force
Close range AoE (only 12m at max) has a chance to seal or freeze

Thicket
2-spark AoE has a chance to seal and freeze

Devil Chihyu: Skull bash
Instant-channel stun with a 0.5s cooldown. Stuns for 5s when maxed.

Avriel - Harshlands wrote: »

Sort of sounds like wizards.. Only with even less control skills. I suppose Mystic push-back in pvp is acceptable.. b:surrender

Like I have any say in the matter anyway.. xD

Wizards have an instant channel 5.0s stun with 0.5s cd?

Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »

Wizard instant channel aoe stun only lasts 3 seconds, has a fifteen second cooldown and has a 50% success chance, though it does have a 12m radius from the caster (and your wizard's target needs to be within that radius). But, it's only available to demon wizards. I do not think we have seen sage/demon mystic skills yet.

Edit: but what are the costs on this pet skill? I do not see mystics out there chain stunning anything, and this would seem to be a great tanking ability in squad.

And pray tell me how many of your demon wiz friends actually use emberstorm to stun people? I do believe you left out the part where it drains your hp.