Creative uses of Quid Pro Quo

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
edited April 2012 in Seeker
Quid Pro Quo seems like an interesting skill that is open to creative uses.
It basically gives Seekers access to any debuff in the game as long as that debuff that does not prevent quid pro quo from being cast.

For example, I know there is a mob in the cube that has a -95% HP debuff that lasts for a few minutes. Imagine grabbing that debuff, then use a tele stone to apply it to a World Boss :)

There are also apothecary and genie skills that apply a self debuff as a secondary effect. Those debuffs can now be casted on others.

Being able to reflect pole's pdef debuff in fb69 could also be very effective.

Can anyone think of other ways to use this skill?
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    When it says transfer....does it mean it will purify the seeker and inflict the status on the target?

    If so....i would love to transfer a psy's soulburn back to him/her b:chuckle...unless its not a debuff to begin with
  • Loarvion - Dreamweaver
    Loarvion - Dreamweaver Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    hmm u could use with expel would be very usefull since it has channel time and expel's seal doesnt interupt just like clerics use purify to have the expel time without the seal
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Something like stun and sleep seem disable using Quid Pro Quo.
    From wanmei forum it shown demon Quid Pro Quo also steal 1 buff from target. b:chuckle
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Elviron - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    When it says transfer....does it mean it will purify the seeker and inflict the status on the target?

    If so....i would love to transfer a psy's soulburn back to him/her b:chuckle...unless its not a debuff to begin with
    It can't be purified like a regular debuff so I dont think it can be transferred, but I don't know for sure.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Something like stun and sleep seem disable using Quid Pro Quo.
    From wanmei forum it shown demon Quid Pro Quo also steal 1 buff from target. b:chuckle

    Wow steal a buff? So steal stone barrier + verdant shield + stealth + chill of the deep?

    It would take a few mins to gather them but it would be pretty epic. You could have alts just for stealing their self buffs haha.'
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Wow steal a buff? So steal stone barrier + verdant shield + stealth + chill of the deep?

    It would take a few mins to gather them but it would be pretty epic. You could have alts just for stealing their self buffs haha.'

    Woah that would be nice.
    But is any kind of buff can be stolen ? That still unknown. b:chuckle
    For example maybe i want to steal other melee class increase move speed anti debuff skill. b:bye
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    It can't be purified like a regular debuff so I dont think it can be transferred, but I don't know for sure.

    What I meant is...say I have armour break on me, when I cast this skill, will it remove the debuff from me and give it to the target?
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I was talking about transferring soulforce, it can't be purified so I doubt it can be transferred.
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Well the skill doesnt say the debuff should be purifiable or not :|
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    But all other debuffs can be purified with the exception of psychic debuffs like soulforce, which to me suggests that the game treats them as something other than debuffs.
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  • Lu$t - Sanctuary
    Lu$t - Sanctuary Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    *reflects hf* oh my b:dirty
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Lu$t - Sanctuary wrote: »
    *reflects hf* oh my b:dirty

    b:shocked
    These the reason why seeker don't have anti de buff skill ? b:chuckle
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  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    For example, I know there is a mob in the cube that has a -95% HP debuff that lasts for a few minutes. Imagine grabbing that debuff, then use a tele stone to apply it to a World Boss :)

    That sounds really interesting. b:chuckle
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  • Furries - Dreamweaver
    Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Reflect Pole's debuff back on him b:chuckle

    wyvern's/ nob's debuff

    stacked DOT from pyrogoths :)

    reflect rib strike bock on sin
    amp back on venos

    disturb soul back on psy

    undine strike on wiz
    frighten back on barb

    exteme poison and subsea

    im not sure reflection soulburn would work becuase our soulforce would be zero or if it would keep the psy's soulforce when we transfer it back to them
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  • Rivi_V - Heavens Tear
    Rivi_V - Heavens Tear Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnm7B...eature=related

    You guys talking about the skill at 2:25 right?
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rivi_V - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnm7B...eature=related

    You guys talking about the skill at 2:25 right?
    "The URL contained a malformed video ID"
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  • Etsuna - Heavens Tear
    Etsuna - Heavens Tear Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    im not sure reflection soulburn would work becuase our soulforce would be zero or if it would keep the psy's soulforce when we transfer it back to them

    tested it with my psychic and seeker:

    1) using Quid Pro Quo does not trigger Soulburn's effect on the seeker before its sent to psy
    2) i had my psy use Sand Trap, Soulburn triggered and psy took its own soulforce damage
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  • Rivi_V - Heavens Tear
    Rivi_V - Heavens Tear Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    "The URL contained a malformed video ID"

    That is odd, maybe my copy and past skills are not as good anymore lol..

    how about now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnm7B0PsW44

    If it still does not work, search in YouTube: Perfect world - Seeker by PaiNrus1
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Works now.
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  • Rivi_V - Heavens Tear
    Rivi_V - Heavens Tear Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnm7B0PsW44

    Im sure at 2:25 it showed that skill being used as well as purifying the player. The reason why you would see the person being debuffed/poisoned again was because of the mob attacking again. I also heard in another post that it does not work with stuns though. b:surrender
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  • Toneshifter - Harshlands
    Toneshifter - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    But all other debuffs can be purified with the exception of psychic debuffs like soulforce, which to me suggests that the game treats them as something other than debuffs.

    QFT
    I think i read somewhere that soulburn was a Positive buff....veno debuff a soulburned person plz....
  • Coeli - Lost City
    Coeli - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Nix bleed.
  • Rendrin - Sanctuary
    Rendrin - Sanctuary Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    qpq does transfer soulburn.

    not that creative, but very useful.
    fortify lvl 1 + qpq = :D
    so far seekers are pretty fail with no anti stun (hope 79/demon/sage helps). so being able to anti stun (even 3 sec) and then -mag def, blade affinity ion strike gemini is pretty cool.

    p.s. how come forum/core wont let me show seeker icon :<
    p.p.s. there is no demon/sage trainers yet so cant even learn spark :< (off-topic)
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rendrin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    qpq does transfer soulburn.

    not that creative, but very useful.
    fortify lvl 1 + qpq = :D
    so far seekers are pretty fail with no anti stun (hope 79/demon/sage helps). so being able to anti stun (even 3 sec) and then -mag def, blade affinity ion strike gemini is pretty cool.

    p.s. how come forum/core wont let me show seeker icon :<
    p.p.s. there is no demon/sage trainers yet so cant even learn spark :< (off-topic)

    There a info from Mooy about demon sage version.
    (From wanmei forum seem approved by dev)

    Seeker move speed skill :
    The sage version giving their immunity to debuff, but slow for 4 second ?
    (Didn't get or slower speed bonus for first 4 second ? b:surrender)

    And as i see the sage version skills get lots range and damage bonus.
    Also seem on the next patch (as CN version already) some earthguard skill cost less mana and last longer.
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  • Sympathi - Archosaur
    Sympathi - Archosaur Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    AsemTheWise - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Quid Pro Quo means to reverse or give backb:victory i learned that on southpark

    Thank you AsemTheNecroer for that much needed input. b:surrender
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    nnnnnnecroooo
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Oh look, one of those ancient discussion rezzed of a subject, that someone thought they discovered all by dem wittle selves.......b:laugh
    re
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    wait one second. is asemthewise that idiot lankoe?
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands wrote: »
    wait one second. is asemthewise that idiot lankoe?

    I'd say check his core connect and find out b:chuckle
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  • Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver
    Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver Posts: 441 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands wrote: »
    wait one second. is asemthewise that idiot lankoe?

    checking by his sig, id say it is him b:shocked
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