Ally rules???? exist???

Galata - Harshlands
Galata - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
edited March 2011 in General Discussion
What are the rules for ally.
What is the benefit to ally?


Make one alliance is 3 miilones alliance send the request, and another 3 to accept the application for the other faction, if the factions are paid, they will be allied temporarily a month.

And I wonder, is this a joke or what?? And where are the new rules of alliance, can go to the alliances together to tw? or we must pay 6 million just to see us the name in blue, because until now the only thing that happens if you do a alliance, you can see in blue teh name of faction ally, this is all, and that is a bad joke, in bad taste.

We believe that all items or anything for paid iwill be temporary, should be alerted before.b:angry
Someone knows what will the rule for allies and their benefits?
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Bad engrish aside, I'm far more curious as to how Kantorek's "made up on the spot, and subsequently buried" TW rules regarding Alliances pans out now.

    Looks like the devs have changed his rules, for the time being.
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  • sangodoc
    sangodoc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I added the faction diplomacy stuff to the Faction Basics section of the wiki. You can take a look there and it includes the information I found out about making other factions "Allied" or "Hostile" to your own.
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  • Galata - Harshlands
    Galata - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    ""An allied status will force the members of two factions to have a PK Protection on. The effect is almost the same as the PK Protection within a faction. "" wowww great is funny :S

    and forget: you can see the ally faction name in blue, al lthis for only 6 millions witout tell first the rules. Is great, is new rule great for enjoy more in game....b:beatenup

    That is a scam and is not a joke, nor is it funny. It's the dumbest thing of all this expansion, pay 6 million for a nonsense and only for a month.:beatenup



    No exist common chat channel for the ally, war between facs is impossible without becoming pk . There are errors in design and programming on every corner, the items of autcioner filter is not available now, the guild slogan small for the few characters permised, imposible not read without giving the scroll (which is so small that I do not understand that a scroll),
    highlighting the menbers online offline facs ... is difficult to see, the toolbars take more space than ever before, without practice reason.


    Take 6 millions from the facs without tell first the rules is a scam, i have no other word for it.

    I think the admins must changes this, dosent work, only a scam for take coisn, and no offered any new in game, i think all facs must ask come back their coins.

    This expasion is bad, doing fast, without sense, without thinking enought... and anything new, only the new chars
  • Leolin - Dreamweaver
    Leolin - Dreamweaver Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    umm, they didnt take 6 mil first. Anyone who decided to pay the 3 mil per faction...decided it themselves without knowing rules. If they didn't know the benefits/cons, they were gambling and doing it knowingly, otherwise known as unknowingly knowingly.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    ""An allied status will force the members of two factions to have a PK Protection on. The effect is almost the same as the PK Protection within a faction. "" wowww great is funny :S

    and forget: you can see the ally faction name in blue, al lthis for only 6 millions witout tell first the rules. Is great, is new rule great for enjoy more in game....b:beatenup

    That is a scam and is not a joke, nor is it funny. It's the dumbest thing of all this expansion, pay 6 million for a nonsense and only for a month.:beatenup

    Scam?

    That's actually useful. A feature like this should have been implemented a LONG time ago.
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  • KuiXing - Harshlands
    KuiXing - Harshlands Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Scam?

    That's actually useful. A feature like this should have been implemented a LONG time ago.

    How is this useful? It just tells your fact who your allied with which is something they should already know. It sounds more like a huge waste of money to me.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    It helps prevent "accidental" aoes.


    Now if they would just fix protections in events. I can think of a few times where I would use armageddon on someone in tournament only to see 2 or 3 of my guildies caught in the attack and get killed, even though I had guild protection on.
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  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    So basicly its pay 6mill so you don't accidently kill your *allies* if there not in your guild, also to help the blind people, there name will be blue...yea seems like a nice way to use 6mill.

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  • Galata - Harshlands
    Galata - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    How is this useful? It just tells your fact who your allied with which is something they should already know. It sounds more like a huge waste of money to me.

    Is a waste of money, and if they dont tell all the true, is a lie, this is always, middle true is a lie becuse has one intention.

    "That's actually useful. A feature like this should have been implemented a LONG time ago."

    Yes is true, we was wiating it, but no this, is wrong, is a try to do but no do .

    Be not deceived, do ally in these conditions is a waste of time and adds nothing to the game, we had more expectations about was promised and the promotion, and this has been a disappointment and a poor imitation of other games with more pvp gameplay and war alliance with serious organizations that go beyond a blue name.

    All here know what it means partnership and if nothing is written to the contrary, it is assumed that ally is to ally, not temporary ally, not blue name, is ally ally. It is not correct and sell one ally later write the rules, Because We Would like to choose.


    We understand thet we must pay some privileges in game, but no for nonsense.
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    even a carebear can see how that might be useful in open PvP, and for even a mid-sized guild, six mil a month isn't much. granted, if you want to ally with half the server it'll start adding up, but them's the breaks.

    my only complaint is it's yet another feature without any use for us pure PvE'ers. but then again, we don't have to spend a single coin on it either.
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  • Galata - Harshlands
    Galata - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    even a carebear can see how that might be useful in open PvP, and for even a mid-sized guild, six mil a month isn't much. granted, if you want to ally with half the server it'll start adding up, but them's the breaks.


    we are no talking about how muchthe factyion can pay,

    we are talking about the system is not good, a true ally should have a chat in common as there is in other games, you're not discussing whether it is useful or not pvp protection for members of the alliance is that .... is the minimum that is expected ... but that is just the minimum ... pay only so you do not have much sense .. is paying for a job poorly done.

    Ally pays the TeamSpeak server to communicate, the game has no a good communication system in there. It is seen that they wanted to implement new things that were demanded by the people for a real ally .. and people had great expectations .. but the result was disappointing .. many were expecting with illusion expansion, waiting for new things and improvements, we thought that if this game game lacked some things because it was still early for this, but implementing that would go slowly ...

    Who has experience in this kind of games you know I speak ... if they start charging for these things and the system is not good, it is better to play a game of monthly payment if you have good rules game ..

    In other games: Fac bank exist and that members can see without removing ITEMS, you can send kos and between factions without do pk, and that war is organized with a points system, assaults on forts and castles is Opened and no instance, Ally has common chat channel ...
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    It helps prevent "accidental" aoes.


    Now if they would just fix protections in events. I can think of a few times where I would use armageddon on someone in tournament only to see 2 or 3 of my guildies caught in the attack and get killed, even though I had guild protection on.

    faction protection seemed to work properly this past tourney,
    i used an AOE skill as soon as i was dropped into a room, an unsquadded faction member was there as well, and they were unaffected.
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  • Galata - Harshlands
    Galata - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    How they ask coisn in group, how they ask a economy of group when they has no implemented a a good system bank for allies and factions??? One thing is the idea and other this that they do, the programing is bad, is no complete, is no good useful, and is full of bugs...I think they dont do better because they can not do better, only look core connect, and you can see that their database dooes not work corrrectly, somethimes the names of factions are changed lol.. They have no a good database for do a good implementation in game, i think. You must wait 2 weeks for up one icon faction, lol, in other games is instantly.

    And sorry, is the true, and talking with people, the people is no happy with the expansion, only we woluld like a better implementation, and a clear rules first than ask money, because if i dont know why i must pay--->I dont pay. Dont tell that is no so much 6 millions, dont tell me is great the system....that's just be happy with less than minimum
  • Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,541 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Traps: This is one... They make you pay a lot to form a friendship with another faction wich I can actualy live with... And then suddenly the rules pop up: "Hey guys guess what... Thanks for giving us so many of your coins but your allience will only last for 30 days... Enjoy the game 8D"... Afcourse now that ppl know there won't be much more alliences being made (and I'll make sure lot's of ppl know) so the system will go to waste but the dev's meanwhile already sucked a large amount of coins out of the game... Well done... So glad my faction wasn't lvl 3 yet so I didn't get to fall in their trap... b:chuckle
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  • IveGotBalls - Dreamweaver
    IveGotBalls - Dreamweaver Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    ok im curious is pw the dev team? because in their other games ie jd and boi they had many setups that worked well and many that did not, they should find a common ground of whats good and bad and try implementing all into one game. i would especially enjoy if they implemented the jd clan/alliance system and the merit system into pw and this whole issue would be solved
  • Aerilya - Sanctuary
    Aerilya - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited March 2011

    we are no talking about how muchthe factyion can pay,

    we are talking about the system is not good, a true ally should have a chat in common as there is in other games, you're not discussing whether it is useful or not pvp protection for members of the alliance is that .... is the minimum that is expected ... but that is just the minimum ... pay only so you do not have much sense .. is paying for a job poorly done.


    In other games: Fac bank exist and that members can see without removing ITEMS, you can send kos and between factions without do pk, and that war is organized with a points system, assaults on forts and castles is Opened and no instance, Ally has common chat channel ...

    I know exactly what games you are talking about, I used to be an admin on one of them. I have to agree, the guild war system was very nicely set up there. If PWI were to implement a similar system it would make this game that much better.
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I know exactly what games you are talking about, I used to be an admin on one of them. I have to agree, the guild war system was very nicely set up there. If PWI were to implement a similar system it would make this game that much better.

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