Mystics are OP

Their Cleric Psy Wiz Venos b:shutup

lolwut?

this sounds familiar. for some strange reason the thought of "veno is OP cuz there pets do to much dmg where as venos get free shots while player atks pets. nyx and herc also OP" keeps running through my mind. hmmmm, i wonder why....b:puzzledb:question

protip: ur a sin, s t f u and stealth.

OMG does this thread really exist already?
Dude it's been a day gtfo you epic qq'er
How could you possibly know if they are good at pvp in a day lol.
Veno's can solo dungeons and now mystics can too. Because they have pets, doesn't make them op.
As with veno's, I expect that they will excell at low lvl pve and pvp whilst levelling off as they get higher. Pets don't develop as powerfully as players do. By he time a mystics 100+ and r8/r9 their pets will be insignificant in terms of damage just like a venos. Rememer when everyone qq'd about nix venos being op before sins were around? Back when everyone was 8 or 9x and nix bleed could one shot all lol. Well people lvld and geared up and now we one shot the nixes. Will be same for mystics. Once you realise thata pet is pretty much worthless in pvp for a class that focus's mainly on its pet to fight... it's not really too op is it?
Mystics don't have any decent dd skills by the looks of it/ Absorb soul is so heavily nurfed for pvp that its not even close to worth casting with that 5 second channeling time and the fact that it only hits had when its used after a dif skill.
There staple attack is the weakest magic attack in the game. Doing a pathetic 100% wpn dmg + 700 and something compared to every other class which does 100% + about 1300 with their basic maic skills. (veno does less than the others but still more than mystic)

Mystics are clearly not a pvp orientated class. They are for pve. They will excell in a supporting role and in solitary pve, whist being good at support in group pvp aswell, due to status effects from plants and usefull buffs and heals. But I predict them to be about as good at end game pvp as clerics or venos. This means that they can still be competative and good at 1v1 pvp and very usefull in tw, but you won't get people qqing about how op they are like you do with sins... unless some nab loses one or two duels to a low lvl mystic and come on the forums qqing about it... oh, wait... b:chuckle

b:bye

I'm going to laugh my *** off if when a lot of mystics hit endgame, they become beasts in PvP second only to sins. b:chuckle


And on the comment of their pet being insignificant like a veno's endgame, the summon's stats are based off of the mystic's stats. They gain attack from the mystic's magic attack, HP from the mystic's HP, and defense from the mystic's defense.
I'd imagine a +10 r8/r9 mystic's summon would be a nasty little bugger.

BloodFastx - Harshlands wrote: »

I hate mystic and seeker

Congratulations.

Don't play them, then.

Derressh - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm going to laugh my *** off if when a lot of mystics hit endgame, they become beasts in PvP second only to sins. b:chuckle


And on the comment of their pet being insignificant like a veno's endgame, the summon's stats are based off of the mystic's stats. They gain attack from the mystic's magic attack, HP from the mystic's HP, and defense from the mystic's defense.
I'd imagine a +10 r8/r9 mystic's summon would be a nasty little bugger.

unless mystics get a pet that is equal to or greater then a phoenix then they will never be all that great in pvp. they will be right behind venos in terms of pvp capabilities.

They are only "op" at low lvl.

And yes, mystic summon is base on caster's stats, which also affect by caster's gear. But this is true as long as there is no bug....

The first pet is nowhere near as good as a herc. I'm not even sure it's better than a glacial walker. I've got to watch it very closely if it's tanking more than one mob.

The absorb soul thingy won't work in PvP if you look at the skill.....

Trawne - Lost City wrote: »

from what i can tell with my mystic so far..... their first pet is as good as a herc. and there's still more pets to come. plus what he wrote in the 2nd part is true, the char's stats add to the summon. so a high refine mystic's pet will be deadly itself.

no it doesnt... i tested this myself. magic nor weapons nor armor has any effect on the overall stats of the pet summon. i tried it with different wands and no diffrence. i tried looking at his stats before and after adding points into magic and no diffrence. tried taking off armor and putting it back on and no difference changed in his stats. so idk where u guys are getting that from unless im missing something.

I say all classes have their bennies and their downfalls, are the new classes a breath of fresh air yes, are they gonna be op who knows? I mean really, it would be nice to see someone hand sins their asses everynow and then, but do I expect it to happen, nope. Sins are the bread and butter of the pwi world. Same with barbs and clerics. Just be happy something changed...and pray they get rid of the stupid kites I mean wtf is that????

Tsubakey - Heavens Tear wrote: »

no it doesnt... i tested this myself. magic nor weapons nor armor has any effect on the overall stats of the pet summon. i tried it with different wands and no diffrence. i tried looking at his stats before and after adding points into magic and no diffrence. tried taking off armor and putting it back on and no difference changed in his stats. so idk where u guys are getting that from unless im missing something.

I am sorry if you already know this, but you have to resummon the pet to let any changes that you applied affect it. Or it might also be that at the low levels, the changes to your character are too small to make a noticeable impact on your summon.

Just why is it that pwi has to make a class that is soo dmn unbalanced..
81 mystic v 100+ the mystic does like 1.5k with a +3 wep the pet does 1k

Knockback > why is the knockback on a mystic pvp based too and not like all the other skills.. either update it or make it like it's supposed to be.. now that no other class can knockback is annoying like there's no attention to the balanced classes (not saying that sins are balanced)

self ress is rather bs don't make it 15 mins the rebuff won't be too hard to forget then since it's far too long, the desciption was like a small amount of time thinking max 2 mins orso

and then the dmg that is far too high, mp drain.. my ***..

-done btching now- hope you do something with this pwi

Thelone - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Just why is it that pwi has to make a class that is soo dmn unbalanced..
81 mystic v 100+ the mystic does like 1.5k with a +3 wep the pet does 1k

Knockback > why is the knockback on a mystic pvp based too and not like all the other skills.. either update it or make it like it's supposed to be.. now that no other class can knockback is annoying like there's no attention to the balanced classes (not saying that sins are balanced)

self ress is rather bs don't make it 15 mins the rebuff won't be too hard to forget then since it's far too long, the desciption was like a small amount of time thinking max 2 mins orso

and then the dmg that is far too high, mp drain.. my ***..

-done btching now- hope you do something with this pwi

omg inorite nurf mystics nao 5aps need revamped to keep up raise cap to 6APS!!

Haden - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I knew it was gonna be a matter of time, I didnt think it'd be a matter of days though <.<

Never underestimate the QQ-force of PWI users.

Adaran - Harshlands wrote: »

I don't think the new classes are as OP as people think they are. Mystics are actually pretty useless fighters if they don't have their summons. Besides if it's their healing skills your worried about, they rely on healing themselves and their summons in order to just stay alive. I think the only way a mystic will only be able to do damage at higher levels is if their opponent is a newbie or if it had an MP charm.

Really all you have to do is get them to use up all their MP and then they're finished. Even if it means you're stocking on HP pots and charms.

(wow...I think I just gave away the big secret that mystics want to keep to themselves b:chuckle)

bringing up mana? This must be a troll.