Mystic or Seeker

I think I saw way more Seekers on RT, but maybe more mystics.

In Santuary, Seeker's did hold the majority. But from what I saw this morning, there are a lot more Mystic's floating around. I mean how awesome is it that you get to be a Veno/Cleric without doing the work of getting a pet? Not to mention at 49 you get a skill to unsummon your pet and it gives you temporary buffs such as phys. def, mag def, mag attack, etc depending on what you summoned. Along with plants that either debuff, attack, or heal. Also, your char heals and pet heals are instant casts and squad heal takes half as much time as squad heal from a cleric. Not to mention Mystic's have a rez protection, so if you see noob floating around in random mobs, give them the buff and we won't have to worry about seeing WC about getting a rez and whatever location. Go Team Mystics!

jiq wrote: »

Definitely Seeker, people see the 5aps potential in it. :P
Edit: I am not interested in the Earthguard.

There is no 5 aps potential, earthguard can't use fists.......

xixiri wrote: »

No offence, but who cares about fast heals? My Cleric only has -30% channeling and it's fast enough, I can keep alive my squads way too easily, why would I need even faster heals? O.o; I don't see the point. Clerics were able to keep squads alive in the past 3 years with their SLOW heals, heh. Plus Clerics have BB, Purify, squad buffs, stacking IH and a more useful Revive than a lame buff. (And Clerics ladies look way more elegant and proud than the emo mouthed Earthguards. ^.^) Go Team Clerics! b:victory

It's not the fast heals, it's that they have those heals in addition to good damage.

Well I tried mystic for the lulz cuz I prefer healers but I don't like them... They look akward, they rely on a pet and not stronger than my cleric was at his noob lvls. He used lot less mana pots than mystic and there quick heal dont stack. I still prefer my cleric we have matk attack buff, and I don't need a pet to pwn b:sin Never had a problem questing or healing in FC Im only lvl 84 and almost maxed all heals. Not sure about mystic at high lvls I only got to lvl 35 and don't feel like lvling it anymore.....

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

There is no 5 aps potential, earthguard can't use fists.......

Or anything else outside swords and blades for that matter.

xixiri wrote: »

No offence, but who cares about fast heals? My Cleric only has -30% channeling and it's fast enough, I can keep alive my squads way too easily, why would I need even faster heals? O.o; I don't see the point. Clerics were able to keep squads alive in the past 3 years with their SLOW heals, heh. Plus Clerics have BB, Purify, squad buffs, stacking IH and a more useful Revive than a lame buff. (And Cleric ladies look way more elegant and proud than the emo mouthed Earthguards. ^.^) Go Team Clerics! b:victory[/QUOTE



Seriously? Who cares about fast heals?? Umm, I don't know how about other players who may potentially die as the cleric channels the iron heart that takes an extra 20 secs before it even applies. Plus, I didn't say Mystic's were going to replace cleric's I said it was nice to have an instant heal if needed. And who's going to revive you when you die cleric?? oh wait, that's right my mystic's protection rez will O.o and as soon as you die the rez is available to use, unlike the 30 sec channeling it takes to do a revive (unless you have demon). Not to mention as you upgrade the revive on the Mystic the more hp you start rez with ALONG with not losing as much exp. I'm not saying BB, Purify, and buffs aren't important and not needed. All I'm saying is, won't it be nice that you won't have to walk all the way back from town from a bh (assuming you died) or use a res scroll to be revived without needing another cleric.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

Ummm... no.


My point is that a mystic provides more damage than a comparibly geared cleric.

I highly doubt that. 2 people in my fac started Cleric - Mystic duo. They have the same build (pure mag) and they lvl together. The Mystic keeps whining because he eats way more mana and his wife kills mobs faster, lol.

Turgaar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Seriously? Who cares about fast heals?? Umm, I don't know how about other players who may potentially die as the cleric channels the iron heart that takes an extra 20 secs before it even applies. Plus, I didn't say Mystic's were going to replace cleric's I said it was nice to have an instant heal if needed. And who's going to revive you when you die cleric?? oh wait, that's right my mystic's protection rez will O.o and as soon as you die the rez is available to use, unlike the 30 sec channeling it takes to do a revive (unless you have demon). Not to mention as you upgrade the revive on the Mystic the more hp you start rez with ALONG with not losing as much exp. I'm not saying BB, Purify, and buffs aren't important and not needed. All I'm saying is, won't it be nice that you won't have to walk all the way back from town from a bh (assuming you died) or use a res scroll to be revived without needing another cleric.

Sorry if I offended you with my opinion. However, you don't even know Cleric skills well. xD Extra 20 seconds before IH applies? lol? And you forgot about our fast Wellspring, I often use it with IH for extra heals. Also, what's up with the 30 second channeling on Revive? Normally it's 6, but yeah I have Demon so it's 3 seconds (and my -30% channeling). And it's very nice of the Mystics, but I can easily afford Rez scrolls for myself, so they can save their Rez buff for poor people or keep their 2660 mana for attacks. ^^ I don't mind the exp loss, I'm 100 and not planning to lvl. I did fine in the past 1 year and Mystics were nowhere. Why do you think that we Clerics need them? Well, some fail Clerics might need them, but I don't belong to them. <.<

I just don't understand why people think that Mystics are so pro now. Clerics were the ones who kept you alive for years and probably will in the future because most Mystics will only pew pew. -.-

I have a lvl 80 cleric, along with a 100 wiz, 95 barb and 50 sin (I get bored easily) so yes, yes I do know how cleric skills work and trust me, there's plenty of fail out there. Especially on my barb, I don't know how many clerics I ran into that would squad heal when I had aggro the entire time and the boss didn't have an aoe. You also have to remember that Wellspring is based on mana. It's effective if you have full mana or charmed, but if not, it's basically nothing. Mystic's instant heal has a base amount plus magic percentage. I'm also referring to cleric's who aren't lvl 100 and can't afford to loss exp and money. Your say in this doesn't even apply because at your lvl you don't need any help or at least, I would hope you wouldn't. I may have overexaggrated on how fast the revive is, but IH does take a couple of seconds to finally kick in and I'm comparing that to a boss a tank can't handle. Say someone is on the brink of dying that's not the tank and by the time your IH kicks in the tank is almost dead, so wouldn't it be nice if a Mystic was around and BAM! They're healed. Also can you do a double squad heal? No, you can't. Mystic's can summon a plant that does an aoe heal and Mystic's themselves have a squad heal and there pet can be attacking all at the same time, along with protection rez (not that it would be needed with two squad heals). So they can do a double squad heal, attack, rez in the same amount of time it takes you to do ONE squad heal. I wouldn't underestimate Mystic's. b:pleased

Hmmm, I'll be damned, I could have sworn it was Wellspring that said that. Maybe it was a different move? I might have made the assumption because there had been times when I was low on mana that the move didn't heal as it did when I was in full mana. Blah, I'm too tired to think.

Turgaar - Sanctuary wrote: »

I have a lvl 80 cleric, along with a 100 wiz, 95 barb and 50 sin (I get bored easily) so yes, yes I do know how cleric skills work and trust me, there's plenty of fail out there. Especially on my barb, I don't know how many clerics I ran into that would squad heal when I had aggro the entire time and the boss didn't have an aoe. You also have to remember that Wellspring is based on mana. It's effective if you have full mana or charmed, but if not, it's basically nothing. Mystic's instant heal has a base amount plus magic percentage. I'm also referring to cleric's who aren't lvl 100 and can't afford to loss exp and money. Your say in this doesn't even apply because at your lvl you don't need any help or at least, I would hope you wouldn't. I may have overexaggrated on how fast the revive is, but IH does take a couple of seconds to finally kick in and I'm comparing that to a boss a tank can't handle. Say someone is on the brink of dying that's not the tank and by the time your IH kicks in the tank is almost dead, so wouldn't it be nice if a Mystic was around and BAM! They're healed. Also can you do a double squad heal? No, you can't. Mystic's can summon a plant that does an aoe heal and Mystic's themselves have a squad heal and there pet can be attacking all at the same time, along with protection rez (not that it would be needed with two squad heals). So they can do a double squad heal, attack, rez in the same amount of time it takes you to do ONE squad heal. I wouldn't underestimate Mystic's. b:pleased

First, the thing you said about Wellspring made me LOL.

Second, you forgot that BB and Purify are a must for some bosses / instances. Try to spam AoE heal with your Mystic when a boss 1hit kills everyone, good luck. BB decreases all damage you take by 50% AND heals over time.

Third, believe me, I am an experienced Cleric. I can pretty much heal, attack and revive at the same time.

Turgaar - Sanctuary wrote: »

You make me LOL comparing yourself to lvl 40+ char and calling yourself good just because your 100. Cause in reality my 45 Mystic would **** your cleric if we were same lvl right now. How about when my mystic gets to your lvl, we duel and see if you manage to avoid my pet while I have a plant healing me hit you with my own physical spell which does more damange then plume shot. Unless you're just like the rest of the fails that CS and then consider themselves "good" by wearing r8/r9 gear, but all is fair because unlike you I can tank bosses and farm. And BB is only needed in a few necessary instances in PW and it takes 2 sparks and you can't use it til your 59. I can double squad heal at 39. I don't think your comprehending what "instant" means and the fact that you can't attack while you're holding BB. Hell, I don't even need a plant to heal, I'll just debuff you with a plant that does more debuffs then youcan do and it does absolutely no effect on me, it reduces your physical defense, magic defense, and channeling speed. So your -30 chan means nothing to me. Oh did I forget to mention that Mystic's also have basically there own blood paint? Except instead of me hitting you for hp, every hit you do to me will regenerate some of my hp. But no, no, you're right Mystics pshhhhh they suck compared to you

- No thanks, I am not interested in PVP. I am a Cleric, a professional healer. I heal people, never kill them. You are thinking about killing people, this is one more proof that Mystics are not healers at heart. A real healer always thinks about healing first.

- I am from a poor country and I earn 200 dollars each month (that's normal in my country). I've been playing since 2008 and only spent 30 dollars on this game during the 3 years, because I am poor (and got fashion for it, mainly). So no, I am not a cash shopper. I farmed all my stuff during the years when there were no dailies and Hypers...

- Who the F cares if I can't attack in BB? I am a healer. There are DDs for that. You think that you will deal millions of damage with your stupid little spells? APS Sins and BMs will laugh in your face, LMAO.

- BB is needed in MOST instances and who cares if it takes 2 sparks, I have Cloud Eruption.

- I never said Mystics suck compared to me. I'm just saying that Clerics are the professional healers. Mystics are secondary healers and semi-DDs. You will see it once you get to FCC / Nirvana / high TTs.

- If you think that you're so smart then why do you say bullsh!t like Wellspring depends on mana amount? lol, fail.

Nella - Sanctuary wrote: »

Heh, should change title to Cleric vs Mystic xD Mystic might have better attacks but in this game, magic classes are completely useless damage wise because of APS. so it is a waste of time to argue about who hits better mystic or cleric. none of you. Anything 4-5 aps, baby. :P you will never be aps. And on the healing side... I'd rather take a Cleric with me to an instance. BB is loved, IH is useful, chromatic is epic, RELIABLE revive is awesome and Purify can be handy. now shut up lol...

hahaha so true! I have a feeling Mystics will eventually die because everyone wants aps in squads and ONE healer and of course people will prefer cleric. mystic might be picked if there is no cleric at lower lvls but I can't imagine FCC without cleric. people will never sacrifice an aps player for one more healer and a good cleric can heal a whole squad alone. most FCC squads only have sins, bms, barb and cleric. I almost never meet other magic casters

is it not beter not talking about who is beter ore not ??

just enjoy the game ^^
and with good friends you can have a great time even if the class is not so good
in dungeons

I think xixiri needs to stop being a little QQ and actually read what people put. I'm pretty sure I never said anything about Mystic's replacing Cleric's in my first post. The only thing I said is Mystic's could do a squad heal faster than clerics, which is true and Mystic's heals would be nice for clerics WHO AREN'T 100 and don't have demon skills or their squad heals/buffs maxed yet. Or for cleric's who don't have BB. What I'm getting as Mystic's could replace clerics up to lvl 60-70s, then after that they take veno's places from 70+. That's all I'm saying for this Thread. I don't want Xixiri to start throwing another little fit about how she's a "professional healer" Lmao....oh that was priceless. It's a game genius not an occupation.