so summon can't lure?

Lerixe - Raging Tide
Lerixe - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
edited March 2011 in Mystic
if the summon can't be de-summoned or stowed without logging off or letting it die... then i'm going to assume it would be useless to try to lure with it. Correct me if im wrong on my assumption/discuss why they chose to do this?
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  • Mooy - Heavens Tear
    Mooy - Heavens Tear Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Resummon it can lure.
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  • Lerixe - Raging Tide
    Lerixe - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Mooy - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Resummon it can lure.

    did not think of resummoning.
    thank you =)
  • Davitiel - Heavens Tear
    Davitiel - Heavens Tear Posts: 978 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yep. As far as I've learned from previous forum posts, Mystic summons can lure. Instead of calling your pet back to the bag like the veno, you summon your summon once more. This will make the summon appear right next to you and will make the summon fighting with the mob dissapear.
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  • Piximin - Lost City
    Piximin - Lost City Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    It's the almighty spiritmaster!


    Oh wait, that's ****...b:surrender
  • epicmyst
    epicmyst Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    damn, thats more convenient than a veno lure
  • Nehru - Heavens Tear
    Nehru - Heavens Tear Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    A veno pull is a two click operation, three if you count targeting. From the sound of it, a mystic pull is a two click operation. Again, three if you count targeting. How is this any more convenient?
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  • Mooy - Heavens Tear
    Mooy - Heavens Tear Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Single click. One click on the skill and that's it. The summon will reappear next to you while other one disappear. They only got 50% hp though.
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  • Nehru - Heavens Tear
    Nehru - Heavens Tear Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Thinking it through a bit more, it's four clicks for the veno...
    click 1: target mob
    click 2: pet attack
    click 3: stow pet
    Click 4: re-summon

    The mystic would be:
    click 1: target mob
    click 2: pet attack
    Click 3: re-summon

    Yes, I'm nitpicking. b:chuckle

    It's roughly a half second for the veno's pet to de-summon, and about a 1.5 second channel to re-summon. The mystic summon is a 1.5 sec cast, so you're saving one click and a half a second of time. In most practical situations, the difference likely won't matter.

    Half hp on the mystic summon isn't a big factor unless whatever is tanking fails to pick up the mob, though it might affect the turnaround between pulls slightly. Unless things have hit the fan, the next spell the mystic fires off would likely be a pet heal.
    "It is said that whomsoever the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. In fact, whomsoever the gods wish to destroy, they first hand the equivilant of a stick with a fizzing fuse and ACME Dynamite Company written on the side. It's more interesting, and doesn't take so long."
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  • EvilSheDemon - Heavens Tear
    EvilSheDemon - Heavens Tear Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    of course sending in a veno pet to lure (say a Petalii which can cast slow) then casting your tank is exactly the same as what a mystic does with double summons ... only the tank comes back at full health not half. This is what I do to lure... I also don't care if the Petalii dies (Yeah she hates me lol)
  • Echolight - Dreamweaver
    Echolight - Dreamweaver Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Piximin - Lost City wrote: »
    It's the almighty spiritmaster!


    Oh wait, that's ****...b:surrender

    i have a lvl 48 spiritmaster in **** XD

    (ai.on is censored for some reason... why is that?)
  • Faeble - Heavens Tear
    Faeble - Heavens Tear Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Nehru - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thinking it through a bit more, it's four clicks for the veno...
    click 1: target mob
    click 2: pet attack
    click 3: stow pet
    Click 4: re-summon

    The mystic would be:
    click 1: target mob
    click 2: pet attack
    Click 3: re-summon

    Yes, I'm nitpicking. b:chuckle

    It's roughly a half second for the veno's pet to de-summon, and about a 1.5 second channel to re-summon. The mystic summon is a 1.5 sec cast, so you're saving one click and a half a second of time. In most practical situations, the difference likely won't matter.

    Half hp on the mystic summon isn't a big factor unless whatever is tanking fails to pick up the mob, though it might affect the turnaround between pulls slightly. Unless things have hit the fan, the next spell the mystic fires off would likely be a pet heal.

    Yes, but it isn't a pause after the pet is stowed, that part is right there vs veno you have to wait to for cast while you have the mob/boss running at you. If you cast resummon right as he gets up to boss (hasn't hit yet), it will resummon after first (sometimes second) hit.

    Though, about the time difference, shouldn't REALLY matter. And if your squad has a problem with the time difference ... they really need to take some chill pills.
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