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cant wait for r9 seekers

Your criticism is that its useless because it cannot be a APS based class... *stares* Not everything has to be APS... If you want APS make one of the other APS classes.

The demon/sage skills aren't even out. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Seeker a range melee 'r? We will know if its useless when TW comes.

Until then I'm reserving my judgment.

Fullen - Raging Tide wrote: »

Lets be realistic from an endgame perspective, class with no APS, no new weapons but instead trying to salvage swords that never really had a purpose.

There are some fancy aeo moves but how many endgame things require that? no aeo stun or HF so cant replace BM.

I dont see a use in TW either, ranged and magic classes will drop them before they get close like a bm suiciding HF without HF and relying on gemini slash is like being a bestial onslaught barb, can't even use bows, lol

I'm kinda disapointed, don't see any real potential to be useful at 100+.

was also kinda expecting a huge warrior with a giant sword, instead we get a prance like run and some fancy fencing moves, wtf were they thinking really.

look.... what IF the damga is MASTER u dont know till u play them

I just started a Seeker last night and while not as durable as id like AC-wise it kill stuff in melee just slightly under my assassin's attack speed using only one skill which is all i have atm because well i forgot to learn others. atm im using what i was told was a balanced build of 3str 1vit 1 dex per level.

yes granted from the picture i saw i was a little dissapointed in well the weapon size but i can live with it. (picture being the seeker with the sword that was just as big as Cloud's Buster sword if not bigger )

but atm i think the seeker is just like the mystic....a new class/race that still has bugs to be worked out and everyone needs to quit QQin and deal with it

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

Looking only at numbers on ecatomb, which likely have some flaws, I can see so many things seekers can do in TW. Sure, they wont be the most wanted class into TTs/nirvana/etc but hey, that`s why I got aps barb. But then again, being clawbarb, my job is kinda different in TWs from other barbs, I just can see seekers doing better job at what I do. The ones who say seekers will be useless are the same ppl who havent found a way to be useful, assuming others cant find a way either =/.

+10

Seekers haven't so much as been around for a day, and people are already saying they will be fail? Right now there are only two types of Seekers out there. There are Seekers who are low level, but learning more and more about how the class works as they level, and then there are Seekers who power leveled and probably haven't got a clue on what to do and will be weight in everything they do, pulling the squads they are with behind.

The only problem I have so far is that they can't use bows, so I'm seeing some issues in FC head room, but one of the skills they have is ranged and has a quick cooldown, so maybe other skills will too and they won't need a Bow. Not to mention, I suppose they could just use their continuous AoE and be of some use by killing some heads in an area as soon as they pop up.

As far as the APS goes, I'm glad they can't reach 5 APS. However, they can reach 2 APS, and they have a blade that can give them a chance to increase attack rate and damage, and from what I can see so far, being able to inflict certain statuses such as Eye of the Northern Sky will increase their DPS quite a bit. I'm quite certain there will be plenty of uses for them in all instances, it's just a matter of the people who are learning the class to figure out what that is on each boss. What I am personally wondering is if the skills which I am assuming also decrease defense levels will stack, or if each one overwrites the other. If so, they will be able to increase the DPS of the squad as a whole significantly.

Edit:

Just got this skill, so I'm only just seeing how crazy it is.

Heart Shatter: Casts a debuff on the target that lowers their metal and physical resistance. Any metal or physical damage received is increased by 12%. Lasts 330 seconds.

That's just level one, and the percentage and duration are what will increase. Tell me you don't think a Seeker is going to be useful.... If it even reaches 20%, it will be enough to take the place of another 5 APS in a Nirvana squad because on top of everyone else dealing enough damage to cover that missing 5 APS, the Seeker can add even more damage to it, and that is before decreasing defense levels.

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

Actually, nope, that skill wont let you into squads as clerics got 30% p.def debuff, barbs got 50%, venos got ~30%(?). So it`s just kinda like yeah, not worth a spot, clerics are pretty needed, barbs got buffs and venos got amp. I say, for farming seekers arent gonna be wanted, but that wasnt my intention when creating mine.

Honesly, I think most squad will be made of a bm, archer (using claws or something -.-), barb (also probably claws), sin and cleric. Since we don't have more squad room we have to pick and choose. No one seems to want anything but fast for everything now, so I doubt anyone will want the new stuff. >.< Just saying. My barb husband was excited to level to 100 and do nirvana and make money, but he would hardly be able to get a squad. So he's in the process of leveling a sin to 100 so he can get money for his nirvana gear.

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

Actually, nope, that skill wont let you into squads as clerics got 30% p.def debuff, barbs got 50%, venos got ~30%(?). So it`s just kinda like yeah, not worth a spot, clerics are pretty needed, barbs got buffs and venos got amp. I say, for farming seekers arent gonna be wanted, but that wasnt my intention when creating mine.

True, but Seekers can also add attack levels to the party. Though, they might just become buff bunnies for squads, then just kicked out.

What am I saying? STOP RUINING MY HOPES AND DREAMS! b:cry

Fullen - Raging Tide wrote: »

Well, since they don't stack with runecrafting it's safe(ish) to assume it's a weapon buff that can't be purged and doesn't disappear upon death.

I'm pretty certain it will be a weapon buff. The buff I have so far called Bladed Fervor affects the weapon and the stat actually shows up on it. However, I can only confirm that on the crit since I apparently don't have it at a level where it applies the attack and defense level buffs. Unfortunately they also made sure we couldn't just buff other peoples weapons as well, by forcing Seekers to only equip swords, on top of which not allowing the weapon to be traded.

For the mastery though, I highly doubt it will be that high. However, I am almost done with my 29 culti, so I will let you know how the level one version matches. If that even is the same, level 10 won't matter much with the insane increase level 1 offers according to ectacomb.

Edit: just confirmed it, the weapon mastery at level 1 is a 6% increase, so ectacomb's skill is bugged.

Admante - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Description says nothing about debuffing phys def. It says increases damage from phys and the other thing by %, which makes it more like amp. Since the amp would max out at 30% and 10 mins, it would be an awesome debuffer for bosses.

Yeah but the debuff only works for skills not basic attacks from the looks of it.
So its good for skill spammers, which is what the seeker is turning out to be.

remember when tideborns first came out and there were 38million of these threads about them? now its 38million "OMG FISH R OP" threads. i forsee the samme happening with the tree people

They probably wont be too great for instances like nirvana or TT, but most people rolling a seeker have a high level character to farm on, I have a 5 aps barb and in a week or two will have a 5 aps BM, if I want to farm I can use either of those chars.

Besides, I already have my HA, I just need to farm a rank 8 sword for him.