TW Rules?

McKenziee - Lost City
McKenziee - Lost City Posts: 12 Arc User
edited February 2011 in General Discussion
just looking for a clarification of TW Bidding Rules going into the reset. Is it against the rules for one person to be a member of leadership in more than one TW faction? Meaning, can my main be an exec in one guild and my alt be an exec in another guild and both guilds bid on lands? I just need to know if i should be resigning a position in one of my factions before the reset. thanks :)
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  • AuroraLucia - Archosaur
    AuroraLucia - Archosaur Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Honestly, there are no rules about that. However, it would only be ethical that if you stay in both factions, you let the leaders know that you are in the other faction, and if they have a TW against each other, you do not join in the battle at all without the approval of both leaders. As far as can you stay in both, that is up to the leaders themselves. It'd be best though to let them know if you plan to be honest.

    If you don't want to tell them though, then you would be best to still do the same. It is not fair to join in one TW and not the other. That is, unless one of them is the underdog in the fight.
  • McKenziee - Lost City
    McKenziee - Lost City Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    ethics isnt a concern...sorry. the only concern is official rules due to not wanting to create a banable situation for either/both leaders of said guilds. both are very aware of my leadership standing in said guilds. both have an understanding of when/where i would tw. i just want to be able to say "look, you cant ban leader A or leader B because you said that, officially, there is nothing wrong with McK being an officer in both"
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  • AuroraLucia - Archosaur
    AuroraLucia - Archosaur Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Then no, there are no official rules on it. The only rule that really applies to factions involved in TW is that there is no fake bidding, or anything that can be construed as fake bidding, such as a faction bidding and fighting, but not with the intention of winning (e.g. level 1 cleric attacking an entire faction).
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Then no, there are no official rules on it. The only rule that really applies to factions involved in TW is that there is no fake bidding, or anything that can be construed as fake bidding, such as a faction bidding and fighting, but not with the intention of winning (e.g. level 1 cleric attacking an entire faction).

    Actually you are mistaking here, the fakebidding isn`t rule, it`s conclusion drawn from a rule.

    But to OP, you are not allowed to manipulate TW map, not going to quote ToS/something, cant bother. But I am not sure if being executor means manipulating TW map or not, really depends on GM. If I were you, I`d sent a ticket and till then step from executor position on other faction, till you know how GMs feel bout it.

    For example, our server faction leader getting banned for weekend(To miss bidding for 1 week) for manipulating TW map. As far as the things around matter are revealed, his executor was leader of alt faction, that was bidding on land and taking it, which resulted in warning for breaking ToS, "Do it again and there will be consequnces". So week after that matter, my faction gets over fakebidded, hence the faction in question keeps land w/o fighting it. There was drama, blaming and shaming, in the end it was member of the faction in question that was behind the fakebid, their leader had been warned before, resulted in that 1 weekend ban.

    So basically it`s about if it`s seen as manipulating TW map, yet if it is, it`s matter of opinion, hence you want opinion from somebody who calls it right or wrong aka send ticket and wait them to respond. If you get allowed to do it, get banned anyway, at least you got something to support your clause with that ticket.
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  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I dunno...being a leader of one, and an officer of another...might lead to the suspicion of fake bids or deals being made between the two, if they're set to fight each other or something.
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  • Anneliesse - Heavens Tear
    Anneliesse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I dunno...being a leader of one, and an officer of another...might lead to the suspicion of fake bids or deals being made between the two, if they're set to fight each other or something.

    well, like she said. exec in both... i dont see how that should be a problem personally.
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  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    well, like she said. exec in both... i dont see how that should be a problem personally.

    Woops, saw "leadership" and assumed she meant...leader, lol. Then didn't see exec =P

    Yeah, exec in both...not nearly as a big a deal.
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  • sangodoc
    sangodoc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Actually you are mistaking here, the fakebidding isn`t rule, it`s conclusion drawn from a rule.
    That's totally incorrect.

    From the "Official Territory War Bidding Rules" post by the GM Kantorek:
    Kantorek wrote: »
    Just because the rewards and bidding announcements have changed, does not mean the fight has changed. Nor does this give you free reign on "fake bidding". Please be advised of these rules when participating in combat.

    I recommend reading that post if you have any questions on the bidding rules for territory rules. Particularly these two sections:
    Kantorek wrote: »
    Alliances

    Alliances are allowed in Territory Wars provided they are not bidding on each other others Territories.

    Alliances cannot fund directly or indirectly another faction to protect one of its own territories or that of their alliance members.

    All factions must have independent leadership

    Any collaboration before, during, or after a Territory War that tries to circumvent the fair play of the system is prohibited.

    No faction may lose on purpose or decide the victor through non in game mechanics.

    Factions that cannot abide by these rules or that of fair play should not bid as anything that constitutes fake bidding will have sever repercussions. Any user caught withholding information about possible Territory War violations will be punished along with the perpetrators. All bids will be thoroughly screened and researched by the GMs. Any behavior determined to be suspicious will require additional research were temporary bans maybe issued. Upon confirmation of the crime the faction leaders as well as the members involved will be banned at the discretion of the GM.
    In other words, I'd highly recommend against being a member of the leadership of two different factions, especially if they either bid on each other's territories or intend to fight each other.
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