why do i get the feeling these kiddos are gonna destroy assasins?

Ahknatn - Heavens Tear · February 2011

i dont know why but im really feelin like these guys are gonna **** every assasin?
i just feel like these guys are gonna do way more dmg.

ive been paranoid all day

Kreuz - Raging Tide · February 2011

I don't know. They prolly don't have the damage to "destroy" sin fast enough. But they do have some interesting skills, tho i dont know all.

Miss_Nikko - Lost City · February 2011

I doubt that.

So there's not point to worrying about it, and if by any chace they do more dmg than a sin. OH well there's no point of worring about that either, you still have stealth and i'm sure they are not going to take that away from you... well not anytime soon atleast.

Well my point will be a seekers and a sin are different, like how a bm can out aoe a sin, and how a sin can kill single mobs faster than a bm and so on and so on for each of tha class's.

Each class are unique and serve different purpose and have different style play.

Lipinhoboy - Lost City · February 2011

destruir todos sim

Pirotessa - Dreamweaver · February 2011

Or maybe the Seeker will be more as a mix between the blademaster and the assassin class.

Hovewer I believe that each class have their style of play.

SilverCleric - Lost City · February 2011

Well since seekers can't see sins in stealth mode (only mystics can) and since they can't get 5aps and they don't have stealth I think they will very little to "destroy" the game, but I'm worried if they might replace the barbs though, even though they got replaced anyway by 5aps characters.....

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide · February 2011

Ahknatn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i dont know why but im really feelin like these guys are gonna **** every assasin?
i just feel like these guys are gonna do way more dmg.

ive been paranoid all day

naw, probly not gonna do more damage. assassins are melee DDs, these seekers seem more like a secondary tanker class, just like BMs. not to say that BMs don't have excellent damage dealing capabilities, but it's not the main function of their class. besides, they use the existing swords. compare those stats to daggers, and factor in the fact that many seekers are going to have way more points in vit than seekers.

however, the fact that they have heavy armor, and a def buff, and afew magic attack skills will make them a pro assassin killer without making them a pro BM killer. since BMs also have heavy armor, but can defend agenst magic attacks better with things like the marrow skills and their self skill diamond sutra, seekers will be about equal to them in combat.

but yeah, sins are abit overpowered due to the whole 5.0 aps thing, and it's my belief that seekers are actually being put in as a way of balancing that out. so your feelings are right, and there is finally going to be a class that can put up a good fight without overpowering any other class, or atleast that's my understanding of the situation.

i'm pretty confident what's going on is that the devs realized they made afew mistakes with the tideborn expansion, and decided that changing the tideborn classes themselves would make the people playing the tideborn angry, so instead they decided to make classes that could match them in combat in the next expansion without further making the origional classes look kinda weak.

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide · February 2011

SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »

Well since seekers can't see sins in stealth mode (only mystics can)

while i love the idea of a caster that can defend agenst stealthed sins, finally, i would greatly apreciate a source. no disrespect meant at all, and not callin ya a lier, just want to conferm it so i can breath a sigh of relief b:pleased

Echolight - Dreamweaver · February 2011

don't judge a book by its cover

What i mean is that just because their skills look nasty and awesome doesn't mean it would be that powerful

skyepersona · February 2011

Remember when the tideborn came out? People said the sins wouldn't be overpowered at all. Now look at em. I'm sure sins are still going to be the numba 1 pvp class after expansion but seekers are going to be hella powerful.

Daizengar - Sanctuary · February 2011

One of the Seeker's level 59 skills automatically hits all nearby targets with metal damage every 3 seconds for 12 seconds. During this time, Seeker can move and use other skills. This skill can damage stealthed sins and reveal them.

Ibbies - Lost City · February 2011

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »

naw, probly not gonna do more damage. assassins are melee DDs, these seekers seem more like a secondary tanker class, just like BMs. not to say that BMs don't have excellent damage dealing capabilities, but it's not the main function of their class. besides, they use the existing swords. compare those stats to daggers, and factor in the fact that many seekers are going to have way more points in vit than seekers.

however, the fact that they have heavy armor, and a def buff, and afew magic attack skills will make them a pro assassin killer without making them a pro BM killer. since BMs also have heavy armor, but can defend agenst magic attacks better with things like the marrow skills and their self skill diamond sutra, seekers will be about equal to them in combat.

but yeah, sins are abit overpowered due to the whole 5.0 aps thing, and it's my belief that seekers are actually being put in as a way of balancing that out. so your feelings are right, and there is finally going to be a class that can put up a good fight without overpowering any other class, or atleast that's my understanding of the situation.

i'm pretty confident what's going on is that the devs realized they made afew mistakes with the tideborn expansion, and decided that changing the tideborn classes themselves would make the people playing the tideborn angry, so instead they decided to make classes that could match them in combat in the next expansion without further making the origional classes look kinda weak.

lol.

1. a bm that uses marrows vs archers/venos/seekers/mystics is a plain dumbass asking to get buttsmexed hard.

2. if dding isnt a bms main function, then wth is? (this is under the assumption that every class can tank except for wizzys)

3. sins are still weak....they just got stealth and 5 aps now....one slip up and they get ripped apart like tissue.

4. if devs really wanted to fix the tb shet theyd nerf dmg/stealth lvl and cap aps so squishys get to live just a little longer.

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide · February 2011

Ibbies - Lost City wrote: »

lol.

1. a bm that uses marrows vs archers/venos/seekers/mystics is a plain dumbass asking to get buttsmexed hard.

2. if dding isnt a bms main function, then wth is? (this is under the assumption that every class can tank except for wizzys)

3. sins are still weak....they just got stealth and 5 aps now....one slip up and they get ripped apart like tissue.

4. if devs really wanted to fix the tb shet theyd nerf dmg/stealth lvl and cap aps so squishys get to live just a little longer.

1. okay ya got me there, i didn't think that one through b:chuckle

2. they're secondary tankers.

3. yeah, so take 5.0 and nerf it, then they still got stealth, so they're still good, but they aren't OP.

4. same as #3. and they already got a skill ta make um live alil longer, tis called deaden nerves^^ so again, just nerf the 5.0 aps, and we're good.

ZoanoAce - Lost City · February 2011

Daizengar - Sanctuary wrote: »

One of the Seeker's level 59 skills automatically hits all nearby targets with metal damage every 3 seconds for 12 seconds. During this time, Seeker can move and use other skills. This skill can damage stealthed sins and reveal them.

I realised that after I saw the vid carefully a few times more. That is what I can say is the real "anti-stealth" skill, but still needs sum random target to activate.

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MetzliDemon - Harshlands · February 2011

SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »

Well since seekers can't see sins in stealth mode (only mystics can) and since they can't get 5aps and they don't have stealth I think they will very little to "destroy" the game, but I'm worried if they might replace the barbs though, even though they got replaced anyway by 5aps characters.....

Mystics can see assassins in stealth?!! b:shockedb:cry

Wylo - Raging Tide · February 2011

MetzliDemon - Harshlands wrote: »

Mystics can see assassins in stealth?!! b:shockedb:cry

Its rumoured that one of the Mystics level 79/100 skills will be a buff that allows mystics to see stealthed sins within a 10 meter radius of themselves, even if this is true, 10 meters is not that bad so longs as the sin is careful.

There where similar rumours that seekers also get a buff that allows them to see all sins that are stealthed for 6~7 seconds. But this rumour sort of died out.

Just take it with a pinch of salt, there's no actual proof that this will be a skill, heck the level 79/100 skills haven't even been released in the CN version yet.

Ibbies - Lost City · February 2011

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »

1. okay ya got me there, i didn't think that one through b:chuckle

2. they're secondary tankers.

3. yeah, so take 5.0 and nerf it, then they still got stealth, so they're still good, but they aren't OP.

4. same as #3. and they already got a skill ta make um live alil longer, tis called deaden nerves^^ so again, just nerf the 5.0 aps, and we're good.

well to tank decently theyd need proper aps and hp (3k hp atm b:surrender)

a sins deaden nerves is nothing, that just means they'll live another 2 seconds longer,.

reason i posted here: none.

XD

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide · February 2011

Ibbies - Lost City wrote: »

well to tank decently theyd need proper aps and hp (3k hp atm b:surrender)

a sins deaden nerves is nothing, that just means they'll live another 2 seconds longer,.

reason i posted here: none.

XD

biuld for a decent BM tanker: heavy armor polearm user with every spare point in vit.

polearm instead of axes cause they got abit better aim, and low aim annoys me. and the vit fer obvious reasons. try it out tho, it actually works quite well, and the lvl 39 skill for poleblade gives good enough damage to usually steal agro. tis a pretty fun biuld^^

EDIT: yeah, deaden nerves don't do much more, however, it gives them a chance ta jump to stealth^^

Kreuz - Raging Tide · February 2011

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »

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EDIT: yeah, deaden nerves don't do much more, however, it gives them a chance ta jump to stealth^^

Or let the charm tick

Ibbies - Lost City · February 2011

Kreuz - Raging Tide wrote: »

Or let the charm tick

or eat a sandwich

subtleintuition · February 2011

Keep in mind Demon Deaden Nerves stops you from being one shot AND gives you 35% hp back... and with 3aps or higher thats plenty of time to get off a few more hits to kill someone.

Ibbies - Lost City · March 2011

subtleintuition wrote: »

Keep in mind Demon Deaden Nerves stops you from being one shot AND gives you 35% hp back... and with 3aps or higher thats plenty of time to get off a few more hits to kill someone.

if the sin almost died they might as well stealth and run away, or wait to renew the assault. ijs

Tsubakey - Heavens Tear · March 2011

Ahknatn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i dont know why but im really feelin like these guys are gonna **** every assasin?
i just feel like these guys are gonna do way more dmg.

ive been paranoid all day

they wont. they dont have many stun/sleep/immobolize/etc skills. i mean they do with the curses/marks of weapon and all, but its limited.

from what i heard seekers are horrible at 1v1s but excel at groups where as sins the vice versa is true. so i guess in a group situation a seeker can catch a sin offguard and put some serious hurt on them, but in a 1v1 situation they cant do much. but we will see in the coming months. sins after all was not considered to be OP when almost EVERYONE except a smart group of ppl thought sins couldnt get 5aps with daggers. but after a few months and the first sin with 5aps poped up they were considered OP. so lets find out what the potential of seekers are.

then again i still highly doubt seekers will be OP. in this game it seems the only chars that get dubbed with the OP tag are ppl that can get 5aps. go figure.

TonyAtomic - Raging Tide · March 2011

b:thanks oh no! You might have to learn how to really pk!?
jk, but would be nice to see mystic put up a good fight vs a sin in 1vs1. o-o

Juggalobeast - Harshlands · March 2011

to reply to some kid saying sins are number 1 pvp class i dont think thats gonna be the case lol what class are sins scared of still.......barbs even with 5.0 same lv sin barb barb whould win n seekers are not replaceing barbs if a good barb isnt around a seeker is same thing as a sucky barb its secondary barb basicly oh back to teh barb sin things a 100+ barb is insane our 2 skills wreck sins o.o Ancestral rage n armageddon n back to seekers there gonna be tough true that,all's i know im gonna read up on the site about teh best build for a seeker(seekers more bm barb mix) n imma use al my oracles when i get back on the game lol i think mystics are gonna be the best class soon least they can see sins or unless u got protection pots that raises ur detection by 25 lv's to see sins lolb:laugh see yall people when im back

Riival_Kun - Dreamweaver · March 2011

seekers have a skil called lord of swords that is an aoe attack that hits ever 1.5 seconds if a sin is hit by lord of swords they are reavealed which means seekers can fail sins!!

Kaste - Sanctuary · March 2011

Riival_Kun - Dreamweaver wrote: »

seekers have a skil called lord of swords that is an aoe attack that hits ever 1.5 seconds if a sin is hit by lord of swords they are reavealed which means seekers can fail sins!!

/shadow teleport.

Rasgore - Harshlands · March 2011

subtleintuition wrote: »

Keep in mind Demon Deaden Nerves stops you from being one shot AND gives you 35% hp back... and with 3aps or higher thats plenty of time to get off a few more hits to kill someone.

everyone seem to forget sin has blood paint 3aps and more that alot of hp they getting back

BladesDomain - Lost City · March 2011

actualy i looked into som stategies.. u will not be able to eficiantly stealth against seekers cuz of the 59 skill that hits aoe strong as barrage of arrows 4 times.. so we will definatly make sure ur either caught off gaurd or dont use shadow escape or anything.. then we have somthing exactly like shadow teliport, but b4 all that we would prolly use the buff to make 1 skill stronger then the rest and after we get u out of stealth and stun u, we use metal dmg then ur practicly screwed at a pinch of hp i play a 78 assassin i feel ya it sux XD

why do i get the feeling these kiddos are gonna destroy assasins?

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