r9 chip opening ...

Templar - Sanctuary
Templar - Sanctuary Posts: 607 Arc User
edited March 2011 in General Discussion
So today i find that one of my guildy's alt account beeing baned for auto chip opening.

Can a gm explain here why? i mean ofc. that i don't support using 3rd party on game but you guys forced people to do. You put chips in sale that can't be opened like rank badges 100 each and then people trying to find all posible ways of opening it . and then you ban person who's been supporting you buying boutique items.

I don't see logic there, its like digging own grave.

So easy solution there is a npc at 1k stream and a lot of people doesn't whana no life clicking 24/7 or auto clicker or jamming buttons ( and its bannable doh ). just spend 5min time and reprogram 1k npc.


b:bye big greetings for gm/dev.
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Templar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So today i find that one of my guildy's alt account beeing baned for auto chip opening.

    Can a gm explain here why? i mean ofc. that i don't support using 3rd party on game but you guys forced people to do. You put chips in sale that can't be opened like rank badges 100 each and then people trying to find all posible ways of opening it . and then you ban person who's been supporting you buying boutique items.

    I don't see logic there, its like digging own grave.

    So easy solution there is a npc at 1k stream and a lot of people doesn't whana no life clicking 24/7 or auto clicker or jamming buttons ( and its bannable doh ). just spend 5min time and reprogram 1k npc.


    b:bye big greetings for gm/dev.

    using 3rd party tools is a bannable offense you use them be prepared to face the consequences cash shopper or not.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    put an auto-level-to-101 at 1k elder while you're at it too

    What if people start botting for 101 after having gotten enough tokens for R9? D:
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    using 3rd party tools is a bannable offense you use them be prepared to face the consequences cash shopper or not.

    This makes about as much sense as the leader banning on Dreamweaver for the "thrown" TW. Pathetic GM decision is pathetic.
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This makes about as much sense as the leader banning on Dreamweaver for the "thrown" TW. Pathetic GM decision is pathetic.

    if that makes no sense to you then you need to go back to school.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    if that makes no sense to you then you need to go back to school.

    If you think that made any sense you need to find some common sense. b:bye
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  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    WTB> Post from Frankie saying its not bannable -- forum searching --
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    This can all be fixed if they just sold the 10-chip packs instead of the 15-chip packs while keeping the same price per chip. The 1K npc can open 10-chip packs in bulk.


    I'm not convinced an auto-clicker really counts as third party since it doesn't read or modify the game client at all.

    It just behaves as a mouse that sends mouse clicks and the clicks are handled by the OS without any of the funny business you see with bots. Doesn't seem to be any different than a mouse driver.
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  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This can all be fixed if they just sold the 10-chip packs instead of the 15-chip packs while keeping the same price per chip. The 1K npc can open 10-chip packs in bulk.


    I'm not convinced an auto-clicker really counts as third party since it doesn't read or modify the game client at all.

    It just behaves as a mouse that sends mouse clicks and the clicks are handled by the OS without any of the funny business you see with bots. Doesn't seem to be any different than a mouse driver.

    b:cute there are also keyboards that allow macros hehe
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Its just stupid to open chip packs 1 at a time.


    If they are banning on auto clickers, you can ban alot of those who reached rank 9 on HT then.

    Go or it GMs, ban rank 9 users. b:laugh
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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    using 3rd party tools is a bannable offense you use them be prepared to face the consequences cash shopper or not.
    ^This




    It's like people who use bots, they will be banned b:bye
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    ^This




    It's like people who use bots, they will be banned b:bye

    lol according to traz what i said makes no sense.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Ridiculous or not, it's still a third party software that gives you an unfair advantage.
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  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Ridiculous or not, it's still a third party software that gives you an unfair advantage.

    ROFLLLL unfair advantage? b:laugh

    please read Traz's explanation below ^^
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  • Templar - Sanctuary
    Templar - Sanctuary Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    It is ridicilous to ban 1 person while load of other full r9 people walking around , you think thay all were clicking packs ? lol 90% of them used 3rd party.

    So only few get banned while other goign on luck to open packs.


    I still think its dev/gm fault, thay should fix 1k npc to bring end to this madness.
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    lol according to traz what i said makes no sense.

    There is nothing that makes sense about what you said.

    Opening chips does 0 to anyone, the economy, the game, and they are chips that will be spent and disappear to get rank 9 that they would have gotten anyway, to which they have a system to do 10 chip packs but not 15 chip packs.....which I find stupid and unreasonable to begin with.

    vs.

    A botter that farms coins, dq drops, items, and tries to level that way, which they attempt to play the whole game that way.
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  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Regardless of whether something hurts others or is unfair for others...

    3rd party programs are forbidden. As they have always been. Shouldn't be upset or surprised when you get banned for doing something that is prohibited. It's like QQing in rooms 14/34 in Cube cause you got killed - you should have expected it.
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    There is nothing that makes sense about what you said.

    Opening chips does 0 to anyone, the economy, the game, and they are chips that will be spent and disappear to get rank 9 that they would have gotten anyway, to which they have a system to do 10 chip packs but not 15 chip packs.....which I find stupid and unreasonable to begin with.

    vs.

    A botter that farms coins, dq drops, items, and tries to level that way, which they attempt to play the whole game that way.

    point blank its a 3rd party program read the tos it says not to use them thus DONT USE THEM its not that hard dont wanna get banned follow the rules.
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    ty Nowitsawn

    Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Use a more advanced macro.

    alternate between Y and F1 every 0.9 - 1.1 seconds.
  • Ash_ketchups - Sanctuary
    Ash_ketchups - Sanctuary Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Doesn't have to make sense to you or anyone else. Their ToS, their service, their rules. They can ban anyone at any time for any reason (or lack of reason) they want.
  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    the fact is... they cant prove that any one of these people are doing/have done/will do it lol so to ban someone without proof is the ridiculous part
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Mendolin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    the fact is... they cant prove that any one of these people are doing/have done/will do it lol so to ban someone without proof is the ridiculous part

    no what the rediculous part is you assume they did nothing to find out if they were botting the chips.

    how do you know they didnt pm the person while they were opening the chip packs and get no reply?
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    ty Nowitsawn

    Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.
  • Feynira - Sanctuary
    Feynira - Sanctuary Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    This game, and probably just about every other MMO out there, not only does not support 3rd party tools (and is usually a bannable offense), but also has similar mentions in their ToS that they can ban accounts with or without reason and at any time they see fit.

    You play their game? You follow their rules.

    So suck it up, buttercup. Go cry a river somewhere else.
  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Feynira - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This game, and probably just about every other MMO out there, not only does not support 3rd party tools (and is usually a bannable offense), but also has similar mentions in their ToS that they can ban accounts with or without reason and at any time they see fit.

    You play their game? You follow their rules.

    So suck it up, buttercup. Go cry a river somewhere else.

    lol the best part about their qq is the fact that they actually have to work 4-5 days to open their packs that they literally just bought endgame gear. instead of working the years it would take to farm it.
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    ty Nowitsawn

    Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.
  • Tigriss_o - Raging Tide
    Tigriss_o - Raging Tide Posts: 625 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    no what the rediculous part is you assume they did nothing to find out if they were botting the chips.

    how do you know they didnt pm the person while they were opening the chip packs and get no reply?

    If your toon is doing something that it cant normally do without you and you not there to answer a GM that pretty much tells them your useing a 3rd party program.

    Quick question. My mouse came with a program to set two extra buttons on the mouse to any keyboard button I want. It that illeagal??
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Tigriss_o - Raging Tide wrote: »
    If your toon is doing something that it cant normally do without you and you not there to answer a GM that pretty much tells them your useing a 3rd party program.

    Quick question. My mouse came with a program to set two extra buttons on the mouse to any keyboard button I want. It that illeagal??

    no because you have to push those buttons yourself so its the same as pushing the keyboard button yourself.

    fail less.
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    ty Nowitsawn

    Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.
  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    no what the rediculous part is you assume they did nothing to find out if they were botting the chips.

    how do you know they didnt pm the person while they were opening the chip packs and get no reply?

    saying anything further would be against forum rules b:cute but you accuse me of assuming when you yourself assumed that i wouldnt know if they did anything to find out
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Mendolin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    saying anything further would be against forum rules b:cute but you accuse me of assuming when you yourself assumed that i wouldnt know if they did anything to find out

    no its simple to know that you dont know it because point blank you arent that person that got banned.
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    ty Nowitsawn

    Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.
  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    no its simple to know that you dont know it because point blank you arent that person that got banned.

    *points at op's thread* i believe it did say alt account no? b:chuckle
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  • Tigriss_o - Raging Tide
    Tigriss_o - Raging Tide Posts: 625 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    no because you have to push those buttons yourself so its the same as pushing the keyboard button yourself.

    fail less.

    Sorry was just makeing sure. So many demonize PW it seems like they will ban for anything sometimes.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Tigriss_o - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Sorry was just makeing sure. So many demonize PW it seems like they will ban for anything sometimes.

    What should scare you is if they are having a bad day and want to for no reason they legally can. b:shocked
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