"End Game Armor Sharding"

I've haven't heard of +20 vit shards being made available with genesis so I wouldn't count on it.


I'd say go for jade of steady defense.

Templar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Oh ye if those +20 vit never come up in our server i would definitely go full jadeb:dirty

Then why make a poll if you're going to go full JoSD?

Meh I dont like the poll. +10 and +20 are in the same option and the difference between them are pretty big.

This question have been on the forum quite a few times but the fact is there are no simple answer you have to look at each built individual and do the math!

SHARDING GUIDE!

Formulas:
physical reduction % = physical defense / (40 * attacker level + physical defense)
magical reduction % = magic resistance / (40 * attacker level + magical resistance)
damage delivered = damage dealt * ( 1 - reduction % )

Def lvl > att lvl
damage = damage dealt / (1 + 1.2 * (D - A)/100)


+2 def lvl stones will give you 2.4% damage reduction or if you are in pvp and the attacker have att lvls higher or equal to your def lvl it will be 2% reduction.

+10 vit stones will give you 178.5 hp (assuming +5% hp neck)
Now look at your hp unbuffed human if it is 17850 a vit stone will give you 1% hp (do the math)
No need to do it buffed or tiger the % increase will be the same.

Now look at the amount of pdef/mdef that 10 vit gives you. apply that value to the reduction formula and look at the % increase. add a mix of pdef and mdef increase your hp increase.

Fx you have 17850 hp thats 1%
your pdef/mdef reduction on average goes up 0.2%

Thats 1.2% survivability where as a jade is 2-2.4%

Note: There will be some other factors like debuffing which im not sure how factors in. Also I cant remember how much pdef and mdef 10 vit gives but on avarage 0.2% reduction doesnt sound to far off, depends on you built ofc.


MYTH:
Vit stones are better because hp stacks with buffs and you will recover more hp with Top, spark, apo etc. This is False!
Yes you will recover more hp but with more def lvls the hp you have/recover will be more valuable because it will be harder to take from you.

The one thing that makes vit stones better is arma! how much value you will put to this is individual depending on your pvp preferences.

Another thing is charm cost. assuming your built gives you roughly the same defence with vit stones and def lvls, def lvls will save you charm costs because the ticks will be "smaller"

In conclusion if you have good gears with good refines def lvls will give you better defence. If you have a claw/str/dex built with lower hp and reduction vit stones or a mix might be better.


Lastly if +20 vit stones comes out they will obviously be better for far the most builts but damn I dont even dare consider the costs of sharding up with thoseb:shocked

DangerField - Dreamweaver wrote: »

MYTH:
Vit stones are better because hp stacks with buffs and you will recover more hp with Top, spark, apo etc. This is False!

Hm what? Vit stones works in an other way than normal +hp shards/stats?

Edit: nvm got it now, thought you was saying that vit stones doesnt stack with buffs/etc. rather than vit stones are better cuz of it.

1st off, all this math **** is unrealistic in pvp assuming you arent getting purged or debuffed. Imo you guys are undervaluing the bonuses of the extra base m def and p def that vit stones give. Keep in mind in pvp when you get purged and wiz 79 debuffed, youre gonna have close to 0 m def, the bonus of vit stone m def will buffer that much more than .2% when you consider pvp debuffs. For that reason alone I went vit stones.

2nd off, the math also doesnt include opportunity costs... Sure it would be nice to have infinite money, but thats not realistic either. Suppose you are losing out on 4 +12 orbs upgrading your g12 to g15 with the socket transfer costs. What is more feasible with your money?

The numbers favor josd, but is it realistic?

I say go for vit. ToP+Geddon=1 hit. I actually thought about going for +def lvl also, but imo, its not worth it. With Jones Blessing, and everything else that adds attack lvl, your HP will be your biggest ally imo.