2 my psys Is Red Tide Useful? worth it? 2 use in PVP?

Kawailele - Sanctuary
Kawailele - Sanctuary Posts: 58 Arc User
edited February 2011 in Psychic
b:bye i have ran8 gear with +3 refines and 2 Perfect Sapphire sardz on my rank8
wep and i have Red Tide and water mastry both sage

And i would like 2 no what u think of the skill Red Tide.....IS IT WORTH THE 2 SPARK'S??

Note:plz do not put 3 spark bust( and the 1 and 2 spark burst lol) in2 account because all skills are strong even the low hitting skills and because we are talking about Red Tide doing damage all on its oun.lol

Note:D-buffs that lower the mag rez or make's the one u fighting take more damage we want Straight up damage from the Red Tide itself with no help.

Note:we no high refines will help u get more soulforce but! plz keep in mind not every one can afford it thank you. :)

1.is it strong enough?
with out the bleed and most of all with out the +30 blessing because +30 blessing ant apart of our char and PWE can take away the blessing when they feel like and not all ppl have it(yes i have it lol.. ) and as for the bleed it dont have a 100% chance 2 bleed.

2.is the 2 sparks worth using in PVP ..for a big finish?
(on some one clouse/around your lv ) u cant rely put the 50% chance 2 save one spark in2 play because its only a 50% chance 2 save 1 spark and u still need 2 sparks 2 use it.

3.ok i no psy's 2 spark (Red Tide) skill will be psy's ,wizz's 2 sparks skill'sss ( BID,BT,MS)will be a wizz's, veno's 2 spark skill will be veno's, cleric's 2 spark skill(tempest) will be the cleric's

ok Now! put all the damage of all the mag classes next 2 one an other(skill being sage/demon ) an u will c that Psychic's one is much more weaker even with the blessing and bleed even the Veno's 2 spark skill is stronger and they even have pet and alot of them by the time there are lv100 they have a nix with the bleed.

4.should they make changes 2 improve our Red Tide skill?

5.lets say the bleed work .....in your eyes is worth the 2 sparks when the bleed finaly works?
ok yay the bleed work --fist pump "YESS"-- boo the bleed tick was only 200-800 aww b:fatb it got purify ...
ohh yay it work on a barb tick only 200...ohh with his 26406 HP that he has (more of less LOL) ohh the tick did not dent him -.- same with lv100 wizzy with there high phy rez and with some refines +5 or more the bleed wont do much at all.
yes phy rez will let u take less damage thats y the damage is less on HA PPL but the -interval-ts ppl still gets it in the rear lol



Now!! plz tell me..is it worth it?b:question
what comes up must come down what goes in must come out! b:chuckle b:surprisedb:mischievous
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  • PinkyRose - Archosaur
    PinkyRose - Archosaur Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    --Red Tide Guide--

    Red Tide is best used after level 89, when you have three sparks to work with, and therefore a backup spark in case something goes terribly wrong.

    Advantages--
    You can pew pew squishy people
    Not NEARLY as flashy "kill-me-before-you-die" as Soulburn.
    Often confused for Tide Spirit in non-Psychic communities. b:chuckle (lol)
    Non-Psychic classes probably don't even know this skill exists.
    AoE---> Therefore, spamable in TW, and lots of people will die.

    Disadvantages--
    Bleed has certain % to stick (if you're an idiot and didn't level it)
    Clerics with braincells can purify it.
    It IS an AoE. You will probably **** off/kill people/mobs in the area.
    Does not work so well on Physical classes b:surrender

    ---Preparation---
    Unless you are drunk beyond belief, you should probably have three sparks if possible. I don't, so I don't care about it, but if you don't have full sparks, you're WRONG.

    +You should have chi pots on you. It's generally a good idea in case you run out of sparks (and you probably will.)

    Like any person with two braincells, you should have yourself fully buffed. If you don't, I pity you.


    LEVEL TO 10:
    I can't possibly tell you how important it is for you to have this decently leveled. The higher the level, the more possibility you have to bleed the hell out of something. (Or someone.)
    Anybody with a brain can decypher that one for you. If you've decided Sage/Demon, you're in better luck if you happen to have that skillbook...
    --Execution--
    Select target. Target should be any of the following classes:

    Venomancer (not HA)
    A stupid cleric
    A stunned cleric* (see note)
    An LA BM
    Another Psychic (that DOESN'T have SoR on.)
    Any kind of Assassin
    Archers

    DO NOT TARGET BLADEMASTERS OR BARBARIANS. BLEED DOES NOT WORK ON THEM.

    Spam the Red Tide button.
    Wait for the bleed to stick.


    ---If the Bleed doesn't Stick---
    ~Stun target with remaining spark if available. If not, Holy Path like hell.
    ~Glacial Shards target.
    ~If target reaches you, Psychic Will. Consume Chi pot.
    ~Macro until death
    ~Rinse, wash, repeat

    --If the Bleed sticks on a cleric with braincells--
    ~Stun Cleric with with Earth Vector, or silence/sleep them with any number of genie skills
    ~Macro until death

    --If the bleed sticks on a target, and they don't panic--
    ~Glacial Shards/Earth Vector
    ~Holy Path
    ~Macro until death

    --If the bleed sticks on a target, and they try to kill you--
    ~Earth Vector/Glacial Shards
    ~Macro until death, Holy Path, eat chi pot, Psychic Will, rinse, wash, repeat

    --If the target panics--
    ~Laugh b:chuckle
    SAGE vs DEMON

    Sage: Has a 50% chance not to cost a spark
    This is a great thing to have with Water Mastery, because not only do you have an 80% bleed chance, but you can also have only a single spark cost. This is incredibly useful, but do NOT depend on it!

    Demon: Slightly less useful, Demon Red Tide has a x1.2 increase of the bleed damage. This is rather pleasant to have if you already hit like a truck.


    All of this information was generously provided for by....Well, the "Ultimate Red Tide avocate." I asked her yesterday since we're both in Vongola guild together. b:victory
    My Harshland main has funky lettering, so forums delete his posts. Now I post on my boredom toon from Archosaur.

    98 Psychic (HL)~~_/\/\_
    93 WB (HT) ~~ x_RO/\R_x

    I find your lack of intelligence disturbing, commander.... b:bye
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  • DemansPsy - Lost City
    DemansPsy - Lost City Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    i have sage red tide and imo...its not worth usin in pvp/pve, it costs too many sparks whcih can be used for vector, soulburn, psy will, tide spirit, or hell if u have it stone smasher.

    the ONLY situation iv found this useful in is GV where u get nearly infite chi once a few chi auras r up, then its good for the extra DD compared to your standard AoE, otherwize tohugh, i kinda regreat wastin the coin on it, at least i GV a lot....
    full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D
  • Anemone_ - Harshlands
    Anemone_ - Harshlands Posts: 212 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »
    i have sage red tide and imo...its not worth usin in pvp/pve, it costs too many sparks whcih can be used for vector, soulburn, psy will, tide spirit, or hell if u have it stone smasher.

    the ONLY situation iv found this useful in is GV where u get nearly infite chi once a few chi auras r up, then its good for the extra DD compared to your standard AoE, otherwize tohugh, i kinda regreat wastin the coin on it, at least i GV a lot....

    I agree with him, It can be fun to use as something new but I find sparking to be FAR better along with your sage/demon aoe's. I also use my sage Tide Spirit way more than red tide as well.

    Lemme tell you there is nothing sweeter than hitting a class with a instant cast Soulburn followed by 3 insta cast aoe's that hit like trucks with sage, my all time favorite combo so far. Often they'll not even see soulburn hit them and just keep smacking themselves with damage while I beat on them with super powered instant cast aoe's.
    Who doesn't love pie!?
  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »
    i have sage red tide and imo...its not worth usin in pvp/pve, it costs too many sparks whcih can be used for vector, soulburn, psy will, tide spirit, or hell if u have it stone smasher.

    the ONLY situation iv found this useful in is GV where u get nearly infite chi once a few chi auras r up, then its good for the extra DD compared to your standard AoE, otherwize tohugh, i kinda regreat wastin the coin on it, at least i GV a lot....

    If my memory isn't failing me, I'm pretty sure you bought Sage Red Tide from me xD. Even as I was selling it to you I was like "dude I don't even know why you're buying that it's total garbage" :D. But maybe I'm wrong, I just know I sold it to a Psy from Essence.
    Risingson - 7x Psychic
    Indalecio - 3x Cleric
  • LittIewg - Heavens Tear
    LittIewg - Heavens Tear Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    RedTide should only be used on lvl 1 mobs. End of disccusion. I meen seriously tho lol,It really does suck. Even at lvl 10 it sucks.
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Risingson - Lost City wrote: »
    If my memory isn't failing me, I'm pretty sure you bought Sage Red Tide from me xD. Even as I was selling it to you I was like "dude I don't even know why you're buying that it's total garbage" :D. But maybe I'm wrong, I just know I sold it to a Psy from Essence.

    3 words: HA helm.

    ijs.

    b:surrender

    (jk)
  • DemansPsy - Lost City
    DemansPsy - Lost City Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Risingson - Lost City wrote: »
    If my memory isn't failing me, I'm pretty sure you bought Sage Red Tide from me xD. Even as I was selling it to you I was like "dude I don't even know why you're buying that it's total garbage" :D. But maybe I'm wrong, I just know I sold it to a Psy from Essence.

    ya, had the coin to burn, a few days l8er ocean orbs come out for 30 gold ea -_-, and mage go ** urself >_> least i have more hp wearin HH 90 boots than u do w/ full r9 armor
    full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D
  • Kawailele - Sanctuary
    Kawailele - Sanctuary Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    i think they should Tweek the skill a little
    what comes up must come down what goes in must come out! b:chuckle b:surprisedb:mischievous
  • SSarmento - Raging Tide
    SSarmento - Raging Tide Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Red Tide Demon can ****!b:victory
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »
    ya, had the coin to burn, a few days l8er ocean orbs come out for 30 gold ea -_-, and mage go ** urself >_> least i have more hp wearin HH 90 boots than u do w/ full r9 armor

    At least I hit the same as you with a +5 r8 soulsphere b:shutup
  • DemansPsy - Lost City
    DemansPsy - Lost City Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    At least I hit the same as you with a +5 r8 soulsphere b:shutup

    bull sht, SS of damge on mobs or gtfo
    full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »
    bull sht, SS of damge on mobs or gtfo

    lol mobs.

    blah

    blah

    So Bad_Azz is full +10 with +12 nv helm, +11 event boots, r9 belt, +10 mdef cube neck yada yada. But he was dragon'd so w/e.

    BroodLord is full +10 with +12 nv top, +12 nv pants, and whoever knows what else.

    Either way, if you're doing similar damage to me with a weapon that costs roughly 6.5x as much. . .

    (It means you should refine your weapon. . .after you pay soka back ofc)
  • DemansPsy - Lost City
    DemansPsy - Lost City Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    lol mobs.

    blah

    blah

    So Bad_Azz is full +10 with +12 nv helm, +11 event boots, r9 belt, +10 mdef cube neck yada yada. But he was dragon'd so w/e.

    BroodLord is full +10 with +12 nv top, +12 nv pants, and whoever knows what else.

    Either way, if you're doing similar damage to me with a weapon that costs roughly 6.5x as much. . .

    (It means you should refine your weapon. . .after you pay soka back ofc)

    (notices damge reduce + magic att increase icons)lolutriple spark? ur a psy not a wiz, U DO NOT TRIPLE SPARK IN PVP b:angry

    so... 33k / 2 from tirple = 16.5k / 2 from dragon = 8.25k / 2 from crit = 4.125k norm

    easy way yt solve this go to third, gather all the crushers, psy will, sand storm, u got 30-40 trials of damge in 1 shot
    full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D
  • Qingzi - Harshlands
    Qingzi - Harshlands Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »
    psy will, sand storm
    ur a psy not a wizb:angry

    It's called Sandburst Blast, not Sandstorm.
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »
    (notices damge reduce + magic att increase icons)lolutriple spark? ur a psy not a wiz, U DO NOT TRIPLE SPARK IN PVP b:angry

    so... 33k / 2 from tirple = 16.5k / 2 from dragon = 8.25k / 2 from crit = 4.125k norm

    easy way yt solve this go to third, gather all the crushers, psy will, sand storm, u got 30-40 trials of damge in 1 shot

    Sorry I don't have an r9 wep and I can't kill 30k+ hp barbs without a string of lucky crits.

    And I'm still waiting on you to top it. XD
  • DemansPsy - Lost City
    DemansPsy - Lost City Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Qingzi - Harshlands wrote: »
    It's called Sandburst Blast, not Sandstorm.

    ...*commits sepukku in disgrace*
    full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D

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