Immunity VS Nemisis 18/02/11

MrSho - Archosaur
MrSho - Archosaur Posts: 17 Arc User
edited February 2011 in Etherblade (West)
oppps sorry it was 18/02/11 not 19th, sorry typooo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hSUOTJpDXE

Defending ARCH-City~~

it was cool, got myself a few kills b:cool
but got killed alot more times :D

still enjoyed it

Mostly Cleric'ing part of vid & some DD'ing ~
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  • XCableX - Archosaur
    XCableX - Archosaur Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I raged on common chat.
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  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    better music than cables vids
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    better music than cables vids

    I was too busy looking at faction chat, more entertaining than the TW, sadly. I honestly wonder who had fun in that one, it was steamrolling, yet nemesis didn`t have the decency to end, but stertch it for their own reasons and pretty much made clowns out of Immunity. Oh wait, that cant be, both of those factions are "refined communities".

    Ps. I do wonder how geo can say anything bout trolling ppl on forums after that one, one of the most disrespecful ways to TW I`ve ever seen. But oh well, I was trying to stop pointing out inconvient things on others behaviour, inconvient for them I mean.
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  • Kattanyia - Archosaur
    Kattanyia - Archosaur Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I was too busy looking at faction chat, more entertaining than the TW, sadly. I honestly wonder who had fun in that one, it was steamrolling, yet nemesis didn`t have the decency to end, but stertch it for their own reasons and pretty much made clowns out of Immunity. Oh wait, that cant be, both of those factions are "refined communities".

    Ps. I do wonder how geo can say anything bout trolling ppl on forums after that one, one of the most disrespecful ways to TW I`ve ever seen. But oh well, I was trying to stop pointing out inconvient things on others behaviour, inconvient for them I mean.

    This **** right here Pro is what I'm talking about.

    Did it ever occur to anyone to think that just perhaps we were not in fact disrespecting anyone and that we actually had some problems of our own in the beginning of this TW and simply struggled to pull everything together? Remember our first TW against DarkSide? It happens sometimes ok? We were not too happy about it either but sometimes things don't come together the way they are supposed to and Immunity did a damn good job of keeping us occupied while we were trying to pull it together. Look, I don't know what your issues are with Immunity and I honestly don't care. That's between you and Immunity but stop accusing Nemesis of **** you know nothing about and trying to discredit both our factions in the process. Thank you.
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I understand, but I don't speak for wnb or soochi or even stud as much as you guys dont banana. i don't know what to say, i don't agree with them on a lot of things believe it or not. similarly, blood disagrees with me on things too.

    its natural, its hard to not assume the same out of people that are associated with those making the claims you dislike. how many examples do both of us have of this? only way around it is to try to be above it and put more faith in people than to just think everybodys motives are fueled by hatred against the other
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    This **** right here Pro is what I'm talking about.

    Did it ever occur to anyone to think that just perhaps we were not in fact disrespecting anyone and that we actually had some problems of our own in the beginning of this TW and simply struggled to pull everything together? Remember our first TW against DarkSide? It happens sometimes ok? We were not too happy about it either but sometimes things don't come together the way they are supposed to and Immunity did a damn good job of keeping us occupied while we were trying to pull it together. Look, I don't know what your issues are with Immunity and I honestly don't care. That's between you and Immunity but stop accusing Nemesis of **** you know nothing about and trying to discredit both our factions in the process. Thank you.

    And ppl say I hate people...

    Watch the damn clip, use your brains and think exactly what it looks like. When immunity`s members make comments like "They are just toying with us", "They clearing everybody on gate but not hitting towers", what should I actually think bout the TW, when the footage does support those comments? It`s pretty damn disrespectful towards your opponent if that`s the case.

    You watch the general chat? Does it seem like taking TW even halfway serious? Do you think it`s respectful towards immunity? Try to forget it`s your faction mates and actually think for once as frankly it seems like you dont. All you do is take all the critique as hate/trolling/etc and forget it, not even bother to think if there is anything more into it.

    There is no hate, I`m simply saying what it looks like and if this is "**** you are talking bout" just wow. You simply see I`ve posted something, you start hating me simply cause it`s from me. If you want to run some clean imago faction, get your act together, you can clearly see the chat itself is far from the actions of "refined community". For once do more than hate me for pointing something out, thank you.

    Ps. I was told to take others into account, I did and I mentioned it was pretty damn disrespectful way to do that TW and now this, guess you cant please some ppl...
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • AgentPotato - Archosaur
    AgentPotato - Archosaur Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    And ppl say I hate people...

    Watch the damn clip, use your brains and think exactly what it looks like. When immunity`s members make comments like "They are just toying with us", "They clearing everybody on gate but not hitting towers", what should I actually think bout the TW, when the footage does support those comments? It`s pretty damn disrespectful towards your opponent if that`s the case.

    You watch the general chat? Does it seem like taking TW even halfway serious? Do you think it`s respectful towards immunity? Try to forget it`s your faction mates and actually think for once as frankly it seems like you dont. All you do is take all the critique as hate/trolling/etc and forget it, not even bother to think if there is anything more into it.

    There is no hate, I`m simply saying what it looks like and if this is "**** you are talking bout" just wow. You simply see I`ve posted something, you start hating me simply cause it`s from me. If you want to run some clean imago faction, get your act together, you can clearly see the chat itself is far from the actions of "refined community". For once do more than hate me for pointing something out, thank you.

    Ps. I was told to take others into account, I did and I mentioned it was pretty damn disrespectful way to do that TW and now this, guess you cant please some ppl...



    What you see as disrespectful, I see as people playing the game for fun and not taking things too seriously. Two different viewpoints, two different interpretations, either one could be wrong, or both could be partially correct. Either way it is conjecture (D:).

    However, what I also saw while watching the chat box was Proski, Proclivity, and Turnoff (no idea who that is) being blatantly disrespectful to both Immunity and Nem on world chat, and saying Nem was toying with us. Only after that did two people from Immunity begin complaining in faction chat that Nem was toying with us.
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    What you see as disrespectful, I see as people playing the game for fun and not taking things too seriously. Two different viewpoints, two different interpretations, either one could be wrong, or both could be partially correct. Either way it is conjecture (D:).

    However, what I also saw while watching the chat box was Proski, Proclivity, and Turnoff (no idea who that is) being blatantly disrespectful to both Immunity and Nem on world chat, and saying Nem was toying with us. Only after that did two people from Immunity begin complaining in faction chat that Nem was toying with us.

    I myself cant say anything for those ppl, yet I do say it maybe wasnt the best course of action. Still, looking at the chat, so much spam on general chat, WCs from nem members too... They werent taking you guys seriously and that is bit disrespectful imo. Ppl have always defined Zulusive as bad apples etc. But never did Zulusive spam general chat, WC during TWs(Well sure there was some, just not to that extent), which is pretty damn ironic as nem ppl been telling how zulusive was nothing but disrepectful. And yet they did something this home base of bad apples didn`t do.

    The chat itself, sure there wasnt really insults, simply constant spam of irrelevant topics and I cant say that means they were taking that TW seriously. Even if you are fighting against somebody noticably weaker, you dont fool around, but finish it nice and clean, everybody deserves that much respect, instead of getting toyed around. But now kitty has to do another paragraph for the irony of the whole situation as I`m getting tired of how some nem officers seem to act like they are somehow part of "refined community", instead the hellhole of *insert where ever proski is currently*, which to me is a punchline, nothing more.

    Now, I think it was mango who said it`s sad proc cant control his members like me, which provoked me to make another conclusion of mine public. The chat, I find it being far from what it should be during TWs, either you mango and your officers agreed it`s okey to do that or you were unable to control your own members and telling others bout controlling their members is pretty ironic. And unless I`m mistaken, one of your officers was part of spam that got into WC pretty nicely. If you cant make yourself to take Immunity seriously, dont make them clowns by stating you are not taking them seriously on public.

    Ps. Sure, we do things for the fun of it, yet for me that was a disrespectful way to have fun. I`m not saying ppl should TW with teeth out yelling, yet seemingly taking the TW as a joke isn`t really the best option either.
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • AgentPotato - Archosaur
    AgentPotato - Archosaur Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I myself cant say anything for those ppl, yet I do say it maybe wasnt the best course of action. Still, looking at the chat, so much spam on general chat, WCs from nem members too... They werent taking you guys seriously and that is bit disrespectful imo. Ppl have always defined Zulusive as bad apples etc. But never did Zulusive spam general chat, WC during TWs(Well sure there was some, just not to that extent), which is pretty damn ironic as nem ppl been telling how zulusive was nothing but disrepectful. And yet they did something this home base of bad apples didn`t do.

    The chat itself, sure there wasnt really insults, simply constant spam of irrelevant topics and I cant say that means they were taking that TW seriously. Even if you are fighting against somebody noticably weaker, you dont fool around, but finish it nice and clean, everybody deserves that much respect, instead of getting toyed around. But now kitty has to do another paragraph for the irony of the whole situation as I`m getting tired of how some nem officers seem to act like they are somehow part of "refined community", instead the hellhole of *insert where ever proski is currently*, which to me is a punchline, nothing more.

    Now, I think it was mango who said it`s sad proc cant control his members like me, which provoked me to make another conclusion of mine public. The chat, I find it being far from what it should be during TWs, either you mango and your officers agreed it`s okey to do that or you were unable to control your own members and telling others bout controlling their members is pretty ironic. And unless I`m mistaken, one of your officers was part of spam that got into WC pretty nicely. If you cant make yourself to take Immunity seriously, dont make them clowns by stating you are not taking them seriously on public.

    Ps. Sure, we do things for the fun of it, yet for me that was a disrespectful way to have fun. I`m not saying ppl should TW with teeth out yelling, yet seemingly taking the TW as a joke isn`t really the best option either.

    What I was trying to point out in my post was that while all you seem to notice is Nemesis *possibly* being disrespectful, the leader of your faction and others in it were without a doubt being disrespectful all over world chat, and later in pms to Rion. It comes off as ironic, to say the least. =\

    Not to mention that it comes across as arrogant when you judge a TW merely because it doesnt stand up to your definition of what YOU think a TW should be. Are you also aware that most of the folks in Immunity were at one point in a faction with most of the Nem peeps, and are good friends with them? Naturally then, there will not be the tension that is typical in a TW of rivals, where common chat is basically ignored.

    This type of logic shows up a lot in your posts, so do you really wonder why some people seem to dislike you and reject things you have to say?
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    What I was trying to point out in my post was that while all you seem to notice is Nemesis *possibly* being disrespectful, the leader of your faction and others in it were without a doubt being disrespectful all over world chat, and later in pms to Rion. It comes off as ironic, to say the least. =\

    Not to mention that it comes across as arrogant when you judge a TW merely because it doesnt stand up to your definition of what YOU think a TW should be.

    This type of logic shows up a lot in your posts, so do you really wonder why some people seem to dislike you and reject things you have to say?

    Possibly disrespectful? I know I shouldnt play nice, all I get is ppl misunderstanding what I`m trying to say. I myself see it pretty damn disrespectful, to not have enough decency to take your opponent as anything but a joke. That`s exactly what it was, had nemesis taken you seriously, the spam they provided would not have existed. The footage itself seemed to suggest they werent even trying to finish the TW, more of farm kills, take you as clowns of entertaiment. And those sort of actions are something the faction with questionable imago, the grandmother of all bad apples, Zulusive never did nor would have. Zulusive got the imago it got for a reason but Nemesis did something that faction wouldn`t have done, speaks pretty damn loud of how big bs the comments of "refined communities" are.

    For me, on competetive situation, taking the opponent as a joke, just assing with him/her, is the biggest disrespectful action one can take. It still doesnt mean having taste of blood in your mouth but it does mean not doing things that got no place in competetive TW. And if you could see things objectively, it was no competetive TW, farthest I saw your catas get, after the start, was right outside your own gates. If other side is that dominating, you are kidding yourself if you think you had any chance of winning it. Nemesis says no coordination, I say no catas, there was 8 catas to be picked, wasnt there?

    Pms? Would I SS all the disrespectful comments to me in WC, pms, etc. I doubt there would be a single Nemesis officer that wouldn`t be found on those screenshots. Everybody lets things go out of hand, given enough time.

    Yet they were provoked on doing that, not saying it was still best course of action but Rion has kept provoking Rescind members, on forums and like you know, we`ve seen your faction chat. Saying those comments came out of blue would be s lie, we both know it and to some extent Rion deserved those comments for his own actions. It`s just what mango been doing at times and why some ppl are so fed up with him, the whole video thread started by him is perfect example. He makes joke of Zulusive, Proski responds in same manner, mango gets upset and then we have whole nemesis calling us disrespectful/etc, when he alone brought it on him.

    Ps. I believe kitty didn`t insult on this one, at least not too much, I are tryingb:surrender
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • AgentPotato - Archosaur
    AgentPotato - Archosaur Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Possibly disrespectful? I know I shouldnt play nice, all I get is ppl misunderstanding what I`m trying to say. I myself see it pretty damn disrespectful, to not have enough decency to take your opponent as anything but a joke. That`s exactly what it was, had nemesis taken you seriously, the spam they provided would not have existed. The footage itself seemed to suggest they werent even trying to finish the TW, more of farm kills, take you as clowns of entertaiment. And those sort of actions are something the faction with questionable imago, the grandmother of all bad apples, Zulusive never did nor would have. Zulusive got the imago it got for a reason but Nemesis did something that faction wouldn`t have done, speaks pretty damn loud of how big bs the comments of "refined communities" are.

    For me, on competetive situation, taking the opponent as a joke, just assing with him/her, is the biggest disrespectful action one can take. It still doesnt mean having taste of blood in your mouth but it does mean not doing things that got no place in competetive TW. And if you could see things objectively, it was no competetive TW, farthest I saw your catas get, after the start, was right outside your own gates. If other side is that dominating, you are kidding yourself if you think you had any chance of winning it. Nemesis says no coordination, I say no catas, there was 8 catas to be picked, wasnt there?

    Pms? Would I SS all the disrespectful comments to me in WC, pms, etc. I doubt there would be a single Nemesis officer that wouldn`t be found on those screenshots. Everybody lets things go out of hand, given enough time.

    Yet they were provoked on doing that, not saying it was still best course of action but Rion has kept provoking Rescind members, on forums and like you know, we`ve seen your faction chat. Saying those comments came out of blue would be s lie, we both know it and to some extent Rion deserved those comments for his own actions. It`s just what mango been doing at times and why some ppl are so fed up with him, the whole video thread started by him is perfect example. He makes joke of Zulusive, Proski responds in same manner, mango gets upset and then we have whole nemesis calling us disrespectful/etc, when he alone brought it on him.

    Ps. I believe kitty didn`t insult on this one, at least not too much, I are tryingb:surrender

    lol, I give up. I'm not able to put my thoughts into words well enough for you to understand me. You say I misunderstand you, and I say you misunderstand me. It becomes an endless cycle of misunderstandings and ends up going no where productive.
  • Wicked_Dream - Archosaur
    Wicked_Dream - Archosaur Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Your seriously talking about disrespect? Have you forgotten how you guys act in in TW's? Or has that slipped your mind? You see a small portion of chat and blow it all to heck*. Who the heck are you to comment on our TW. You where not even there. You are not part of either faction. Who died and made you god? pffft give it a rest. You sir, seriously have a bug up your ****.
  • RioNHale - Archosaur
    RioNHale - Archosaur Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    You sir, seriously have a bug up your ****.


    Wicked you just gave WnbTank the perfect definition. b:kiss
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  • Faandral - Archosaur
    Faandral - Archosaur Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Great vid Sho, sorry the extraness within the thread is taking away from that.
  • XCableX - Archosaur
    XCableX - Archosaur Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    forums filled with Cable lovers b:dirty
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Sorry sho, you kept clicking on me a few times, but I wasn't in our base - was solo defending their totem outside their base, lol

    Nemesis: don't take for granted everyone is where you think they are, well, at least when you-know-who is in the tw
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • Kattanyia - Archosaur
    Kattanyia - Archosaur Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Sorry sho, you kept clicking on me a few times, but I wasn't in our base - was solo defending their totem outside their base, lol

    Nemesis: don't take for granted everyone is where you think they are, well, at least when you-know-who is in the tw

    Psh....I saw you try to drop me when I spawned..then I chased you...b:chuckle
  • BloodIetter - Archosaur
    BloodIetter - Archosaur Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I got 67 kills alone in that TW was at 818 kills before and 885 kills after that TW =S was the most fun ive had in ages on this server.

    And the second TW I had with you guys I could stay longer then an hr so I got 121 kills 885 before and 1006 after =D. Thnx again <3
  • MrSho - Archosaur
    MrSho - Archosaur Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Sorry sho, you kept clicking on me a few times, but I wasn't in our base - was solo defending their totem outside their base, lol

    lol everytime I saw your HP go down I always thought you would come back in range so I could heal or buff you or something like that but whatever >_> <_<

    I personally enjoyed TW against Nemesis, it was a challenge, and gave me an chance to try my survival skills more >_> <_< obviously I need more training b:sad
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Your seriously talking about disrespect? Have you forgotten how you guys act in in TW's? Or has that slipped your mind? You see a small portion of chat and blow it all to heck*. Who the heck are you to comment on our TW. You where not even there. You are not part of either faction. Who died and made you god? pffft give it a rest. You sir, seriously have a bug up your ****.

    You do understand, Zulusive never freaking ever would take opponent as a joke, would never spam general chat or WC. The only time I actually remember seeing Zulusive say anything unrelated to TW on general chat during one was when Beeh used all of the 3h, that TW lasted, lying dead trolling ppl on general chat, in our base. No, Zulusive never took the actions of the sort you took on that TW shown on video.

    Oh why I`m even mentioning it? I simply got tired of the refined community BS you have been providing, the comments bout bad apples etc. If you want the moral highground, act like you deserve it, till then you might as well stop the bs. You are no better than what Zulusive was, the comments how Zulusive was made of bad apples, how those bad apples ruin factions, that is what I`m getting tired of. As frankly, the ones calling us that are just as bad themselves.

    Arent you the one who QQ`d to me to stop QQing bout fakebidding when I laughed at nemesis on WC, after they got fakebidded and their members had spent some time QQing there? Please, keep hating, though I know you will <3. Please remind me, who actually tried to provide argument and who provided nothing but insults this time? I`m such a bad apple and you are little miss perfect, always doing the right thing xD.

    Ps. You gotta love the TW videos, you dont have to be in one to tell something happened, ijs.
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • MrSho - Archosaur
    MrSho - Archosaur Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    dont get me wrong,
    even TW's immunity vs phoenix there were people chatting in common like everything was fine, cause even tho it was a TW, people were still chatting to eachother, cause they knew each other and did also make funny jokes or whatever, if there was something to hide, the chatbox would of been hidden in the video, but it wasnt cause there was nothing to hide imo, just 2 factions facing eachother in a normal calm way without raging at eachother, and neither me or you know if they were toy'ing with us, that WC with that nem cata barb saying "cata barb running on A oh noes" how do you know if that was fun joking around during vent or just him alone being random?
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    dont get me wrong,
    even TW's immunity vs phoenix there were people chatting in common like everything was fine, cause even tho it was a TW, people were still chatting to eachother, cause they knew each other and did also make funny jokes or whatever, if there was something to hide, the chatbox would of been hidden in the video, but it wasnt cause there was nothing to hide imo, just 2 factions facing eachother in a normal calm way without raging at eachother, and neither me or you know if they were toy'ing with us, that WC with that nem cata barb saying "cata barb running on A oh noes" how do you know if that was fun joking around during vent or just him alone being random?

    Maybe it`s just me having sports background but honestly, focusing on irrelevant topics, all the long TW, that is taking you seriously? Sure, would there been joke or two, I`d understand that but it was literally constant spam. Oh well, if you want to be a joke, who I`m to argue. All I`m saying is Nem should clean their act the next time they come and tell how much of an bad apples the little group refered as bad apples are.

    You do understand that nemesis has been saying they had problems on coordination, I wonder, would that chat have anything, whatsoever, to do with that problem of theirs? Like I said, would it had been serious TW, wouldnt have happened, if you cant see it, too bad. If it`s okey for you to not take you seriously, just *** around with you, be my quest and take it. I`m just not gonna listen those same ppl be hypocrites and blame me for something they are doing themselves, it`s like pot calling cattle black.

    Ps. Come shut us off, I think the line was on faction chat, not yours, granted.
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • Wicked_Dream - Archosaur
    Wicked_Dream - Archosaur Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    You know whats really funny? The only ones complaining are the ones who WASN'T in the TW.



    ps QQ more Wnb if it makes you feel better.

    But i'm done with this subject, i know both sides had fun in that TW and all i see is sour grapes from the ones who didn't get to TW.
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    LMAO I just saw the video.

    I can see what everybody's talking about finally XD

    Dude, Nemesis barbs sat away from the crystal. Literally, just sitting there taking hits without actually doing anything.

    Idc how many problems you guys had prior to the TW, THIS does not happen. It can't happen no matter how unorganized you are. In fact, it seemed VERY well organized to make it last as long as possible.
  • AgentPotato - Archosaur
    AgentPotato - Archosaur Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    LMAO I just saw the video.

    I can see what everybody's talking about finally XD

    Dude, Nemesis barbs sat away from the crystal. Literally, just sitting there taking hits without actually doing anything.

    Idc how many problems you guys had prior to the TW, THIS does not happen. It can't happen no matter how unorganized you are. In fact, it seemed VERY well organized to make it last as long as possible.

    Nemesis barbs always sit away from the crystal without doing anything....

    At this point it comes down to

    a) you watch the video for what it is, a fun TW, or
    b) you watch the video having already made up your mind because of a bias against nemesis that they are going to be toying with Immunity, and you look for any possible hint of a mistake on their part that could be taken as that.

    Why are the only people that claim this was Nemesis being rude the ones that have it in the most for Mango, not to mention 80% (random statistic, yes) of whom were not even present at the TW?

    For god's sake, I've been TWing with nem/narla since the start of the server, I know what they do in TW, I was actually IN the TW, and from everything I could see, they were trying. Yet you watch a video of it, and claim to know exactly what went on? -facepalm-
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Nemesis barbs always sit away from the crystal without doing anything....

    At this point it comes down to

    a) you watch the video for what it is, a fun TW, or
    b) you watch the video having already made up your mind because of a bias against nemesis that they are going to be toying with Immunity, and you look for any possible hint of a mistake on their part that could be taken as that.

    Why are the only people that claim this was Nemesis being rude the ones that have it in the most for Mango, not to mention 80% (random statistic, yes) of whom were not even present at the TW?

    For god's sake, I've been TWing with nem/narla since the start of the server, I know what they do in TW, I was actually IN the TW, and from everything I could see, they were trying. Yet you watch a video of it, and claim to know exactly what went on? -facepalm-

    I did not have a biased opinion of the video.
    I had not posted on the two threads about the Nemesis v Immunity until just this one because I didn't agree with Rescind, and even still now, I do not agree with them on most of their posts.

    I watched it because I wanted to watch it. I was bored.
    I've been in TWs against Nemesis, WITH Nemesis, and TWs against Narla, who is basically Nemesis even though people will argue against it and when they get into the base, they go for the towers and the crystal instantly. They don't sit like 30 meters away from the crystal for minutes at a time. What's the point of that, if not just make the TW last longer?
  • AgentPotato - Archosaur
    AgentPotato - Archosaur Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I did not have a biased opinion of the video.
    I had not posted on the two threads about the Nemesis v Immunity until just this one because I didn't agree with Rescind, and even still now, I do not agree with them on most of their posts.

    I watched it because I wanted to watch it. I was bored.
    I've been in TWs against Nemesis, WITH Nemesis, and TWs against Narla, who is basically Nemesis even though people will argue against it and when they get into the base, they go for the towers and the crystal instantly. They don't sit like 30 meters away from the crystal for minutes at a time. What's the point of that, if not just make the TW last longer?

    Well the point of sitting further back in an obvious turtle like that would be to make it harder for our defense DD's to get to the barbs through their DD's, also allowing their clerics to hide further back. Either way the cata's were still attacking.

    No?
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Well the point of sitting further back in an obvious turtle like that would be to make it harder for our defense DD's to get to the barbs through their DD's, also allowing their clerics to hide further back. Either way the cata's were still attacking.

    No?

    No, catas don't have that much range. They were too far back.
    In fact, MrSho clicked on the crystal for a split second during that ordeal. I had to pause the video to check it out. The crystal was at full HP.

    I also did notice the remarks by Rescind on world chat. Something I do not agree with. Something else I don't agree with is Rescind trying to tell RioN how to run his faction. I've been in Immunity before, and I like it. It's a great faction full of great people.
  • AgentPotato - Archosaur
    AgentPotato - Archosaur Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    No, catas don't have that much range. They were too far back.
    In fact, MrSho clicked on the crystal for a split second during that ordeal. I had to pause the video to check it out. The crystal was at full HP.

    I also did notice the remarks by Rescind on world chat. Something I do not agree with. Something else I don't agree with is Rescind trying to tell RioN how to run his faction. I've been in Immunity before, and I like it. It's a great faction full of great people.

    Their first few rushes were straight for the crystal, but we defended well enough for it to regenerate. The next option is to start going for the towers, for those you can stand off to one side or further back. Honestly its not worth an argument over a video.
  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Well the point of sitting further back in an obvious turtle like that would be to make it harder for our defense DD's to get to the barbs through their DD's, also allowing their clerics to hide further back. Either way the cata's were still attacking.

    No?

    Agent, come on.

    It's ok, I more than anyone understand. It was more fun than anyone has had for weeks in TW. I get it.

    But really. Watch the video.

    9 times outta 10, I had to go out of the base to get a target. They all just kept coming in 1 at a time, some maybe practicing iron guards, idk.

    There wasn't anything that resembled a push at all for the most part (on either side that I saw). I went up to their binding post and they were all running outta base still sealed, unbuffed, one at a time.

    It wasn't a concerted effort, it was everyone taking their turn for crying out loud.

    And if Immunity or Nemesis had members that needed the practice, so be it (arguably a violation of the ToS, but a violation of a stupid one in my judgment so who cares). Not many would otherwise fault them for that, nor should they.

    I honestly can't tell if your just mellowed out and high on pot, or you really believe to the contrary - all I can say is you'll have to pass the roach before I am able to join you in that delusion.

    Do you kids nowadays still call it a roach? b:surrender

    You were there every bit as much as me. Longer in fact. That ain't how they TW.
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."