Removal of FCC (yay)
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why is this thread still open?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Summer_Blush - Heavens Tear wrote: »why is this thread still open?
Since when is a discussion a crime? Sit back and laugh at some of the absurd ideas thrown into the pile.I level the old- fashioned way.
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I like having the money for skills.0 -
Heartstone - Dreamweaver wrote: »yea cmon Rebirth omega 100+ 5m+ exp xD.
per wave i hope b:avoid.
cause 3h = 5mil exp...ew :b0 -
Leveling from 90-100 in FC isn't a problem because unless you are a complete dummy you'd know how to play your class already.
Leveling from 1-100 in FC is a problem though. And I see a lot of alt FC's going on these days.0 -
Thats Y theres so many lvl 100 noobs walking around thinking they know the Game because of FC. But thats about the only bad thing i can say about FC[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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I can understand putting a level limit like not letting little ones (under we'll say 75-80) go into FF, too many little ones pay like 2m or so to get someone to solo it for them and never learn how to play their person. So that is different. However, my BM is 77 (Have yet to do FF, waiting until I'm 80) So, I have had a bit of time to learn my guy. I did my quests, my dailys. So, FF is good. I can support not letting low people pay their way up, but I don't support total removal of it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Suuuure, remove FCC and make PWI a stupid grindfest like other games... Thanks, but no thanks. I like this game because of FCC and the dailies. I always quit all MMOs in a few weeks because they become boring grindfest after mid lvls... PWI is different and I like it this way, no wonder I've been playing since 2009.0
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To people who say FCC makes all the fail players... That's not true. Weird, I FCC'd 2 characters to 100 and I'm not a noob. I'm a very good Cleric (according to friends who always want to squad with me) and a Veno who actually uses debuffs and support skills, not only spamming Venomous like most of them... FCC doesn't makes noobs. Stupidity does. Some people are just plain stupid, they start characters without any background informations and end up as lvl80 BM with 200 mag... Or lvl90 Barb asks what's aggro... This is because they are STUPID. My Cleric got to lvl100 in a month because I Hypered my butt off, yet I'm really wanted by squads because I know how to play my class, because I'm smart, I have never messed up any of my characters in my MMO life... Use your brain and read guides if you're not sure about something, that's the secret. But most people just don't give a shi.t...0
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AlmaMater - Dreamweaver wrote: »I played PW-MY witht the old FC version and I quit when I was level 91 because levelling any further was simply sooooooooo boring and repetitious.
After a while I restarted playing in PWI and now that I am lvl92 I am still fully enjoying the game since it is not impossible to reach lvl100. So for me, without FC the game after lvl 90 makes no sense since grinding is idiotic given the exp per mob, quests are rare and give no relevant exp, so what would be left is to repeat BH's and other DQ over and over and over again.
So please keep FC in there!
you quit PWMY at 91 so you'll quit PWI at 100, because it will become boring too...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Sooo one less pve instance where wizards still stand a chance of getting a squad. Thanks alot man. Ya know how about just delete all wizards from the game and give us the option to get a class of our choice at the same level and with equivalent gear..........sigh...........sins/aps has ground this game into the dust.....thanks.0
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be a better wizard? i have no problem finding a FC/nirvana/BH/anything else squad.
i agree that alt FC's should be removed, because people level a person to level 100 with half *** gear and then start working on an alt. Just make an NPC that makes it that only level 75+ can teleport in. You can remove the entrance itself and make the NPC free in Snowy village. Problem solvedI'm famous! i'm on ecatomb0 -
Wylo - Raging Tide wrote: »
So ide much rather go in an FC with my friends, have a good time and level....on my mystic...once ive learned how to play it.
Questing at the point is just time killing and/or something to do with friends.
edit: I quoted the wrong part.0 -
Silest - Sanctuary wrote: »35k from the mobs..... so it's like 70-90k for mobs + quest xp..
ahh thanks , too lazy to do the math myself hehe.
And quests are fun with friends but meh, FC is more fun and more beneficial.0 -
No remove my FCC! I plan to level my seeker that way! b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Making "non-trash-talkers" show their true color. RAGE ON! b:laugh0 -
Kokki - Harshlands wrote: »be a better wizard? i have no problem finding a FC/nirvana/BH/anything else squad.
i agree that alt FC's should be removed, because people level a person to level 100 with half *** gear and then start working on an alt. Just make an NPC that makes it that only level 75+ can teleport in. You can remove the entrance itself and make the NPC free in Snowy village. Problem solved
Good for you however not all of us have your contacts/friendlist/factionmates. Also about the being a better wizard quip I have never met you in game though we are on the same server but how about you get a clue before talking rubbish.
As for the rest I can agree however I know that once you have done the quest once many people do not want to go through the process again and seek shortcuts to create alts. The issue is that players new to the game can also use the same shortcuts and the end result is high level noobs.
I can agree with another poster that mindless grind is a great turn off and was the reason why I stopped playing I came back after I received an email about the implementation of bhs and have not looked back since. There needs to be a middle ground between mindless grind and levelling too fast.0 -
_Equinox_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »I stopped reading when I noticed you were only level 68, and therefore have never even BEEN in an FC run....
stopped reading when i read this and saw your avatar said level 19.
no I didn't really, i read further on to where you said you're psy was something like level 80. and then it dawned on me... perhaps you may think you're the only one with alts? who is to say the OP doesn't have a main higher level?
any rate - I think if they removed FC as a leveling instance and returned it to a gear farming instance, or removed it !all together! even, it may breath more life into other aspects of the game. As it stands, the instances where you can actually earn exp and coin see little to no use anymore since everyone and their mother wants to spam FC to get to end game as fast as possible. I can understand the desire to do so, just to "keep up" but at the same time, its like playing the game backwards. Not many people have experience in Delta anymore these days beyond doing a BH 100. Many BH wave 3 squads fail because no one knows what to do. They haven't even tried it out pre - 100 yet (you can go in as early as your mid 80's!) nor have they even tried a Gamma.
I'd personally rather run a full delta with a pro squad every day and earn a little bit of experience and a lot of coin, than to spam FC all day and earn a lot of experience while loosing a lot of coin (if hypered - unhypered I'm tempted to say delta gives more exp). Maybe if FC was changed from being a leveling instance, that dream can become a reality.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Badburton - Lost City wrote: »I really hope they do remove it. It would make the game Challenging once again.
(we already get so much freaking Exp and not enough $)
1) Actaully spend time leveling up your character
2) Quest spots where it's empty and barren would slightly fill up more
3) For any of you people wondering where the barbarians are for BH, you might want to check FCC (Frost Covered City)
I totally vote for the removal of it.
b:victory
Edit: They won't remove the instance itself, but from what i've heard (and yes there are many rumors) is with the new expansion comes back the "Old" FCC Where you get the Materials (Just like TT) in order to make the Frost Covered armor
There are pros and cons to removing FCC..
Without the FCC and BH these days, It took me almost one whole year to get my veno to level 79. With FCC nowadays, you can level to 79 in a few days. Though I don't like the idea of people bringing their new characters or other new characters and plvl them and become noob high levels, It's nowhere practical to remove FCC now if it has already been affecting a lot of people.
Knowing how FCC can boost leveling and suddenly remove it really kills people. If you never had FCC, leveling doesn't seem so slow. But with FCC for months, and suddenly take FCC out, people are going to scream at the major speed difference of leveling. Once FCC is in.. it can't get out. Or there's going to be a hell lot of drama lol
FCC isn't used to be a grinding area but like a whole new TT area. I liked the idea of that to be honest, and I also agree with the low level areas being more filled in with players actually working hard to get items and money, instead of always being squashed by players who spend loads of real life money on the game.
People are getting their armors/weapons too easily. But on the other hand, who wants to stress in the game and spend loads of time in the game to get something when they could've used that time to do something more practical in real life? i.e. having a great income and spend a little fraction of money to the game = game 'God' with no stress or large amount of time spent on it.
There's bound to be good and bad effects to removing and not removing FCC.... and everyone has a different preferent in gameplay. Removing it will **** a lot of people off, NOT removing it may **** another crowd of people off. How would PWE gonna deal with it? lol
Answer is that - they won't xD
Reason is because...
When PWE is our "God" - The creator of PWI, and the drama in PWI is our "reality", it would be the same as the REAL reality where NO ONE can fix the economy crisis, NO ONE is going to be able to please everyone on the planet and NO ONE is going to stop needing/taking resources that are limited.
You can run from the game drama, but come to think about it deeply its the same as real life...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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