I guess... they had enough of pack sales?

2»

Comments

  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Fuzznutts - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Personally I like the fact that there have been no pack sales. I'm ready for gold prices to go down some. Who remembers the days of gold being 95K?? b:surrender

    no, just no. Unless you want AH gold trade disabled. I love high gold prices.
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Fuzznutts - Sanctuary
    Fuzznutts - Sanctuary Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Yeah I know the days of gold being that low will never return since those prices were due to the fact that the game hadn't been out for very long. Oh how I wish I knew then what I know now lol.
    If we always do what we've always done,
    We'll always get what we've always got~ (Unknown)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Saeidon - Heavens Tear
    Saeidon - Heavens Tear Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »
    The cheaper gold is, the more demand there will be for it, which causes more people to charge for it, to sell it. A nice, stable economy with a nice, stable flow of cash for PWE.

    This post made me giggle b:chuckle

    A higher demand does not cause a higher supply without other factors.

    The cheaper gold is, the higher the demand for it.
    This higher demand for gold pushes the price up.
    The higher cost of gold encourages more people to charge zhen (supply of gold is increased)
    The higher supply then pushes the price back down.

    These factors are constantly at work, and are pivotal in the current value of gold. Other things come in to play also and help to establish a long term value of gold (the subsidisation of token values being particularly relevant in this particular economy) but its the above scenario that establishes the short time prices.
    I love drinking tea
  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    While building a house takes 2-5 years, destroying it may just take within a day. Keeping yourself healthy is a lifelong process but when you got hit by a virus, like influenza or HIV, your death is near. It's no different from an economy, either virtual or real, where human's behavior, confidence and expectation are accounted for. You witnessed a housing boom prior to 2007 subprime mortgage crisis, which took years to build people's confidence in the housing market, but the collapse that took down huge investment banks, and therefore the whole economy later on, was a shock and sudden, unexpected by many. And now you need years to witness another housing bubble.

    PWI economy was ruined the moment packs were put on sale, and as such there's no reason for you to hope that the economy is going to revert back to the days prior to packs on sale anytime soon. It's going to take at least a year, but even an idiot knows that no packs on sale over a year is not going to happen. It seems ridiculous if you think about it. People, a lot of people, used to complain about packs. So now that the packs are gone for a while has upset a lot of folks due to rising token prices means that people are getting used to with the current PWI economic condition made worse by packs and that tokens bring relatively more benefits to them. As you all know we, the humans like any other species, are capable of changes until our tolerance limits are reached, which is of course different from one to another.
  • Firefeng - Dreamweaver
    Firefeng - Dreamweaver Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I just assumed they were saving their pack sale for the expansion, since an expansion will bring back more "old" players, and packs sales are (presumably) their most profitable cash shop item.
    [SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=5129096004&dateline=1267246196[/SIGPIC]
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    HT is currently tokenless.....lol.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    b:flowerHave a Techno Rave Flower!b:flower

    -Self-Proclaimed TW commentator of HT-
    -Certified Barbarian Master-
    -You gained +10 coolness points for viewing this signature-
    -Master of Coffee-
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    They have trained the players well...b:avoid

    Why, yes... they certainly have.
    I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    we dont need pack sale b:bye
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte
  • Arenaceous - Lost City
    Arenaceous - Lost City Posts: 632 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    It's not the fact that there is no pack sale but that gold prices are up due to the rep sale but the packs are 1 gold each. That makes token prices skyrocket. I doubt people would complain about a lack of pack sales if there was no rep sale. In fact gold would probably go down to like 400k-500k which makes the coin price per pack the same as when gold is at 800k-1M and there is a 50% pack sale...
    "Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire."

    "Some have said there is no subtlety to destruction. You know what? They're dead."

    - Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Just buy packs at 1 gold per pack like they used to be... At least the option never goes away... Everything is relatively similar value with what they were worth a year ago. 800k gold at 50% off packs is same as buying em at 1 gold at 400k per. Same applies with oceans.. 75 gold at 400k is close to 30 gold at 900k.

    All in all, over the past year, buying power hasn't really changed much as prices of gold shift according to sales... Ijs.
    BM PvP Guide: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1320761

    YouTube channels: youtube.com/TheDan912 and youtube.com/TheDanPWI
  • Myrrmidonna - Dreamweaver
    Myrrmidonna - Dreamweaver Posts: 204 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Yes, I beg you, PWE, bring back real pack sales so the gold goes back to 900k+ and I can cash in that ~250k per each gold I've got from AH just now b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    DREAMWEAVER:
    Myrrmidonna, 8x Trickster b:sin
    Eskarinne, 5x Summoner b:cute

    It is not the destination that makes the journey worthwhile...
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    hasnoface wrote: »
    I never wanted packs to go away. I am not a cash shopper, so I do not buy them. I just need cheap tokens / mana food, because my Cleric and my Psychic need them... Tokens are getting way too expensive and I have to use up all my daily income to get Herb Yuanxiao. It's not easy for a non cash shopper. I do buy some gold rarely (2-3 times a year), but I live in a poor country and 10 dollars to me is like 1000 to the Americans...... This is the only reason why I want the packs to come back. I would farm herbs if I had the time, but I can't be online all day, I have a life. The mana food I get for the tokens were perfect but soon I can't afford them anymore.

    ffs....all these oracle/frost nubs...
    there is a thing in game called apothecary.
    lear2fkinuseit
    here, for starters: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/11308
    I never had any mana problems before token food. Farm herbs, make your potions, stop being dumb and ignorant.
    ____________
    I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.
    George Carlin

    ~I listen to hardcore FIGHT songs when I visit the forum, just to get into the proper mood~

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    ffs....all these oracle/frost nubs...
    there is a thing in game called apothecary.
    lear2fkinuseit
    here, for starters: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/11308
    I never had any mana problems before token food. Farm herbs, make your potions, stop being dumb and ignorant.

    You can't use apoth pots in BB.

    Not to mention that my cleric routinely has to carry about 150 yuanxaios at least since she goes through so many. That would have me spending every single day farming herbs all day long. And then we have a game that is no longer fun to play.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Annalyse (veno) - Melosa (cleric) - Glynneth (archer) - Pickerel (sin)
    Florafang (wiz) - RubixCube (barb) - Laravell (psy) - Diviah (Mystic)
    Torchwood (BM) - Sataea (Seeker) - Wystera (Sin) - Allissere (SB)

    Looking for a mature faction on HT? pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=760842
  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Npc selling tokens at 10k set price i want that <.<
    I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender

    102 - Archer - Heartz
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You can't use apoth pots in BB.

    Not to mention that my cleric routinely has to carry about 150 yuanxaios at least since she goes through so many. That would have me spending every single day farming herbs all day long. And then we have a game that is no longer fun to play.

    Not 100% true that you cannot use apoth, you can use apoth pots before focus skills such as regeneration aura. I have yet to see anyone use apoth before they even attempt to use focus skills.

    On the side note: I never spent that much yuanxaios on my cleric. I used about like around 10 least and up to 30 most. Chi is also easy to get back.
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Sukinee - Heavens Tear
    Sukinee - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Why do I have this strong feeling there are going to be pack sales right when the expansion is released >.>
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Member of Nocturne and Hikari...spread the light be nice to others!

    "I conform to non-conformity." Join date: November 2008 :D
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Hell, we don't even need tokens. Just give us a Herb Yuanxiao sale and we'll be content.
    I <3 AGOREY
  • Firefeng - Dreamweaver
    Firefeng - Dreamweaver Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Sukinee - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Why do I have this strong feeling there are going to be pack sales right when the expansion is released >.>

    I figured they'd open the floodgates about that time, also. It was the same with Tideborn and Lucky Corals.
    [SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=5129096004&dateline=1267246196[/SIGPIC]
  • The_owner - Lost City
    The_owner - Lost City Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    No don't bring back the pack sale. Let everyone rely on their level 60 hp pots (like me) just like it was before!

    I only really have 20 Crab Meat Jiozis left in my inventory and plan to use them in time, but for now, I take a sip of the level 60 hp pots and move on.

    I think the main reason people are complaining about token prices is their inability to buy 9 tokens for an outrageous 23k per token.

    I only buy the Herb Yuanxios as they only require 3 tokens. (That's about 60k Cash for 50) Reasonable price for the amount they heal.

    Casters have it easier, as opposed to Barbarians having 14khp + And a single Healing potion only recovering 1000 HP. b:chuckle

    Edit: Barbarians shouldn't worry about this either. They should always have a cleric right beside them.

    No Pack Sale = Players complaining about token prices

    Pack Sale = Players complaining about High Gold Price

    b:scorn
  • Patriialt - Dreamweaver
    Patriialt - Dreamweaver Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    lol, anyone remember that poll a long time ago about whether PWI should remove the pack sale from the botique or not? majority vote was: yes, remove the packs.

    Ofcourse, they didn't remove the packs, and many players were outraged...

    now, everyone is begging for them back. PWI has successfully proved that if they spoil you long enough, you beg for more :p
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    So, they're pretty much trying to revert the gold and pack market to normal so they can repeat the sales in a few months and the concept of 50% off packs has enough appeal to players to make PWI rich again.

    Had to happen. The fad was wearing off pretty quickly and in the end they'd have to end up putting packs at 25, then 10, then 5, then 1 silver apiece to sell any if they continued at the rate they were going.
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Where is gold 400k?


    I dunno about other servers, but on RT gold is still higher than during any pack sale, it shot up during rep sale and has gone down a bit, but gold is still higher than the average pack sale.

    it's ~650k here.

    still, if i prefer A = (800k gold, 10k tokens) over B = (400k gold, 20k tokens) i will ofc prefer
    A over C = (650k gold, 20k tokens) XD
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    it's ~650k here.

    still, if i prefer A = (800k gold, 10k tokens) over B = (400k gold, 20k tokens) i will ofc prefer
    A over C = (650k gold, 20k tokens) XD

    It wouldn't ever be 400k gold 20k tokens though; with pack prices being 1 gold at the regular rate, a minimum reward would be 15 tokens.. would give people incentive to open again since the minimal return rate of opening packs would be worth it at 400k. Same goes for 800K gold at 50% off. Each pack would be 400K.

    Your buying power is exactly the same at 800K gold 50% off packs and 400K gold off sale packs. In theory, token prices should stay the same in both scenarios.
    BM PvP Guide: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1320761

    YouTube channels: youtube.com/TheDan912 and youtube.com/TheDanPWI
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It wouldn't ever be 400k gold 20k tokens though; with pack prices being 1 gold at the regular rate, a minimum reward would be 15 tokens.. would give people incentive to open again since the minimal return rate of opening packs would be worth it at 400k. Same goes for 800K gold at 50% off. Each pack would be 400K.

    Your buying power is exactly the same at 800K gold 50% off packs and 400K gold off sale packs. In theory, token prices should stay the same in both scenarios.

    in theory, u could imagine that packs could be removed from the boutique; and assuming no rep sale or other popular sales gold could go down to 400k. my imagination is wild eh? XD

    now where is warren's calculator to see if u should open packs with 400k gold/20k tokens xd
    i think it will be worth it since tokens alone will be 300k ofc xd

    anyway, i said that because i observed that i spend way more tokens than items buyed with gold. i could rephrase it to "i prefer high gold and low tokens than low gold and high tokens" xd
  • X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,301 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I remember before packs, and them herbs thingys, my clerics before entering BB, would put on 1 or 2 pieces of +mana regen, +mp, use the mana regen apoth that's better than their buff. Them combined with pots you pickup from questing or from apoth npc were enough...

    Heck I don't quest at all and I have nearly 400 lvl 90 mana pots ... people are just lazy and wan everything spoon fed to them.
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I remember before packs, and them herbs thingys, my clerics before entering BB, would put on 1 or 2 pieces of +mana regen, +mp, use the mana regen apoth that's better than their buff. Them combined with pots you pickup from questing or from apoth npc were enough...

    Heck I don't quest at all and I have nearly 400 lvl 90 mana pots ... people are just lazy and wan everything spoon fed to them.

    nobody says that it's hard to keep up BB or w/e without herbs. every <75 cleric can do it xd
    the main point is that it's way more expensive. npc'ing those lvl90 mana pots gives u coins for more than 1 herbs... and 1 herbs gives way more mana :b
    now, i'm sure u dont want to have ur repair bills doubled right? o:
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    in theory, u could imagine that packs could be removed from the boutique; and assuming no rep sale or other popular sales gold could go down to 400k. my imagination is wild eh? XD

    now where is warren's calculator to see if u should open packs with 400k gold/20k tokens xd
    i think it will be worth it since tokens alone will be 300k ofc xd

    anyway, i said that because i observed that i spend way more tokens than items buyed with gold. i could rephrase it to "i prefer high gold and low tokens than low gold and high tokens" xd

    Oh okay, I was assuming packs in the example would be indefinitely in the boutique @ 1 gold = 400k which would make token prices the same being 800k x .5 sale would also make it 400k per pack.

    Makes it harder for merchants like me to make money though when tokens are low; supply is so high with a lot of competitive sellers.
    BM PvP Guide: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1320761

    YouTube channels: youtube.com/TheDan912 and youtube.com/TheDanPWI

Categories