APS is the real problem? Or is it something else?

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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »
    Make it BM or assassin -_-" No barbs or archers, or even 5.0 clerics like you please.

    But but...5.0 Clerics are so the in thing. Shocked you yourself have not made one yet b:sad
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  • Brigid - Harshlands
    Brigid - Harshlands Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »
    Blah, even LVL 80s have more DPS than that, please. 5.0 w/o sparking for nerfing p.atk? How pro is that? I even refined and it is 4850~5453, seriously, now I know that clawchers are bad.... No wonder why random r9 5.0 clawchers failing... Why not use a sin? >.>

    4850-5453 times 5 is 24250-27265 per second. For comparison, with my current equipment but refining R8 bow to +12 and 2xDrakeflames, I would do 14030-18774 at 0.91 attacks per second, or around 12767-17084 per second.

    Even five-year-olds can tell you that twenty-seven thousand is more than seventeen thousand.

    Here's a hint: DPS stands for Damage Per Second. That means you have to multiply by how many times you attack Per Second.
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »
    4850-5453 times 5 is 24250-27265 per second. For comparison, with my current equipment but refining R8 bow to +12 and 2xDrakeflames, I would do 14030-18774 at 0.91 attacks per second, or around 12767-17084 per second.

    Even five-year-olds can tell you that twenty-seven thousand is more than seventeen thousand.

    and there is DMG reduction on bosses right? 75%? 24250-27265 * 0.75 6062-6816 per second, meaning a crapload of a repair bill. Heavy cash shoppers.... lol. Now I know what's the reason behind these victims of interval hype is... xD
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »
    4850-5453 times 5 is 24250-27265 per second. For comparison, with my current equipment but refining R8 bow to +12 and 2xDrakeflames, I would do 14030-18774 at 0.91 attacks per second, or around 12767-17084 per second.

    Even five-year-olds can tell you that twenty-seven thousand is more than seventeen thousand.

    Here's a hint: DPS stands for Damage Per Second. That means you have to multiply by how many times you attack Per Second.

    what you said about the 4850-5453 is unrefined when its refined +12 with 2 garnet gems its 15820-17639 so multply that x5 lol and you blow your bow away even more. yet he is too stupid to realize this.

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    Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »
    and there is DMG reduction on bosses right? 75%? 24250-27265 * 0.75 6062-6816 per second, meaning a crapload of a repair bill. Cash shoppers.... lol

    lol cash shopper? who needs to cash shop your repairs when you can solo a tt in a matter of minutes and keep all the drops to yourself?
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  • flamingahole
    flamingahole Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    This thread brings a smile to my face.

    Edit-
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    what you said about the 4850-5453 is unrefined when its refined +12 with 2 garnet gems its 15820-17639 so multply that x5 lol and you blow your bow away even more. yet he is too stupid to realize this.

    And that's not taking into account the additional 500% weapon damage from spark.
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Bah Another APS thread. The only place where this is out of hand is on the forums. Ingame everybody just wants to do stuff faster.....even the so called APS haters b:bye

    On other news, I recently heard that trolls are going to sue humans for grouping them and Yulk b:chuckle
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    what you said about the 4850-5453 is unrefined when its refined +12 with 2 garnet gems its 15820-17639 so multply that x5 lol and you blow your bow away even more. yet he is too stupid to realize this.

    edit:

    lol cash shopper? who needs to cash shop your repairs when you can solo a tt in a matter of minutes and keep all the drops to yourself?

    5.0 BMs = OP... Wait, solo? Yeah right, I have gotten paid from 5.0 BMs to help open TT 1-x and 2-x b:chuckle
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    flamingahole wrote: »
    This thread brings a smile to my face.

    Edit-


    And that's not taking into account the additional 500% weapon damage from spark.

    oh wait that was buffed lol nvm that part
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    ty Nowitsawn

    Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »
    inb4Yulkdon'tknowwhatheistalkingabout.

    Can you get 5 APS WITHOUT demon spark (or windshield / relentless courage genie for that matter)? No. Is DMG too high? No, it is terrible, even with 2 APS, you are better off spamming starter skills.

    Yulkdon'tknowwhatheistalkingabout.

    My Sin is 5 APS unsparked with fists.
  • flamingahole
    flamingahole Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Elviron - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Bah Another APS thread. The only place where this is out of hand is on the forums. Ingame everybody just wants to do stuff faster.....even the so called APS haters b:bye

    You have to admit though, all the APS threads are entertaining to read.
    Elviron - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    On other news, I recently heard that trolls are going to sue humans for grouping them and Yulk b:chuckle

    I could see that happening. If I were a troll then I'd be extremely offended by the comparison as well.
    You have three chances to guess the reason for the post above.
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Yulkdon'tknowwhatheistalkingabout.

    My Sin is 5 APS unsparked with fists.

    ROFL why do some sins use fists instead of daggers? b:laugh

    Okie I am done. Thanks for the laugh silly people b:chuckle
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    i just read the first page lol someone probably allready stated this but with rank8 top you can get 5aps unsparked without using giene skills or apoc items

    EDIT:allso u can get 5aps unsparked with daggers(close to 5aps but dmg is greater therefore it equals out)
  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »
    5.0 BMs = OP... Wait, solo? Yeah right, I have gotten paid from 5.0 BMs to help open TT 1-x and 2-x b:chuckle

    well anyone who pays is stupid most the time people openingt ts you get 1 mil per some tt mats lets see....
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    ty Nowitsawn

    Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »
    ROFL why do some sins use fists instead of daggers? b:laugh

    Okie I am done. Thanks for the laugh silly people b:chuckle

    Because I don't wana spent millions to gear up my Sin so it's using my BM's gears? Damn right you are done Mr. youcan'tget5apsw/osparkorgenie.
  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    well anyone who pays is stupid most the time people openingt ts you get 1 mil per some tt mats lets see....

    eww massive lag typo i said anyone who pays to open tt is stupid since you can have people open it for free most the time. and even if you did pay you pay what 100k-500k per run 1 mat sometimes sell for 1 mil so you think that 500k hurts the runner so much?
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    ty Nowitsawn

    Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.
  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    eww massive lag typo i said anyone who pays to open tt is stupid since you can have people open it for free most the time. and even if you did pay you pay what 100k-500k per run 1 mat sometimes sell for 1 mil so you think that 500k hurts the runner so much?

    +1

    but seriously who pays ppl to open TT? like there are a bunch of blue name clerics that stand@ arrivials with the name TTopener or something like that who open up TT for u for free.
  • Nael - Dreamweaver
    Nael - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »
    5.0 BMs = OP... Wait, solo? Yeah right, I have gotten paid from 5.0 BMs to help open TT 1-x and 2-x b:chuckle

    I didn't expect you to know, but some 1-x and 2-x mats sell for more than many of 3-x mats.
    Lower TTs make slow but steady income, while TT3-x are great if you need much coins asap (hoping for gold drops).

    Or they could just be farming mats for their low level alts. No sense in paying more than 100k for mats when I can clear the whole instance in 5 minutes.b:bye
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited February 2011
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy make another post about APS ffs....b:sweat

    APS is here. People need to just learn to play with/around it.

    /facepalm

    :O Welcome back to the forums! b:victory

    It has been a while since you been on these forums. (Same for myself as well)
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I can't believe people are actually taking this thread seriously. Looks like successful troll is successful. b:surrender
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I can't believe people are actually taking this thread seriously. Looks like successful troll is successful. b:surrender

    The way to beat a troll is not to post in troll thread.... So in this case you, me, and everyone else who posted failed to beat the troll sadly... b:surrender

    Next time a troll made a troll thread, don't post in it. lol
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  • ZoanoAce - Lost City
    ZoanoAce - Lost City Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited February 2011
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »
    The way to beat a troll is not to post in troll thread.... So in this case you, me, and everyone else who posted failed to beat the troll sadly... b:surrender

    Next time a troll made a troll thread, don't post in it. lol

    I responded, just not seriously. b:sad
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I responded, just not seriously. b:sad

    Well, I'm only giving everyone a heads-up so next time everyone will know what to do if a troll thread is made. b:chuckle
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  • AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    OR ! we just do what we do with kids (their both too stubborn to learn or have too little of an attentionspan to concentrate on whats eing said to grasp the full context of the explaination or reasons given, so why wont it work now, ne ?)

    -pets yulk on the head and gives him a petty bauble that says "pritteh spark" and a pair of cardboard claws and points at the kiddie playground-

    Sure Yulkie, sure. You'll understand when you get older and if not we'll hope the other kids wont stick your head in the toilet every day for being stoopid.
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  • CandyCorn - Raging Tide
    CandyCorn - Raging Tide Posts: 1,547 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    i heard this is where i can get my post count up
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  • ZoanoAce - Lost City
    ZoanoAce - Lost City Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    CandyCorn - Raging Tide wrote: »
    i heard this is where i can get my post count up
    Hey, get in line darnit! b:scorn
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    CandyCorn - Raging Tide wrote: »
    i heard this is where i can get my post count up

    i had fun doing that and slapping him in the face with logic too xD
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    ty Nowitsawn

    Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »
    The way to beat a troll is not to post in troll thread.... So in this case you, me, and everyone else who posted failed to beat the troll sadly... b:surrender

    Next time a troll made a troll thread, don't post in it. lol

    No.

    Replying to the OP or staying on the OP's topic would make it a successful troll.

    Just coming in here to say something completely unrelated, like yulk's single brain cell must be lonely so he comes here to laugh at everyone laughing at him' is indeed not part of the original troll and does not add to a troll's success.

    A successful troll gets people riled up and pissed off and keeps them on topic while laughing about it.

    This thread? Pretty much from the start, everyone is pointing and laughing at the OP. That makes the troll a failure.

    b:pleased
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  • Ajani - Harshlands
    Ajani - Harshlands Posts: 1,170 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    How is everyone doing tonight?
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