Feedback to Developers: Why I will not be playing Perfect World (Same-Sex Marriage)

entaria
entaria Posts: 2 Arc User
edited February 2011 in General Discussion
I will begin by saying that I did search this topic before posting. I have read the other threads, and I am posting this because the discussion and response so far have been inadequate and irrational.

This looks like a game I might enjoy. It looks like a game I might even invest money in, if I enjoyed it enough. But upon reading the policy on character marriage and developer response to criticisms of that policy, I have decided that this is not a game I am willing to support with my time or my money. A specific political choice has been made to exclude me and others like me from aspects of the game on the basis of our sexual orientation.

The culture in China is irrelevant here. If you are attempting to to market and distribute a game to Americans and other westerners, you need to produce a game that is responsive to the needs of that audience. The game developers have obviously recognised that in a million other dimensions of game design. Bluntly, they have created a game designed to attract all westerners except a minority distinguished only by their sexual orientation.

There are two obvious (real) reasons why this might be:

1) The policy represents a fear of alienating homophobic elements in western populations (especially American) and reflects a belief that homosexuals or those sympathetic to them will simply overlook the discriminatory policy.

2) The policy reflects the personal feelings of a developer or group of developers who are immersively familiar with western culture and have decided to take a political stance on same-sex marriage.

My response is straightforward: homosexuals and those sympathetic to *** rights form a significant percentage of the potential market for this game, and taking a stance that alienates them (to say nothing of its moral implications) is a poor business decision. Simply: I (and potentially others like me) will be taking our money elsewhere because of this policy.

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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    most mmo's dont allow same sex marriage so crying about it here isnt gonna change the fact that you cant get married if your not gonna play dont play.
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  • Hunnybunney - Harshlands
    Hunnybunney - Harshlands Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

    srsly, lol.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Oh look, this thread again.
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    doood... its a ****ing game
  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Feedback to entaria: it's a game. Shh.
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  • Hunnybunney - Harshlands
    Hunnybunney - Harshlands Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Oh look, this thread again.

    You could have quoted yourself from the last one. I swear you said the EXACT same words lol.
  • CTRLotus - Sanctuary
    CTRLotus - Sanctuary Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    This thread is prob going to be closed for flame baiting, and this has been covered already.
    The reason there is no same-sex marrage in this game is because in China (where this game is originally developed, as PWI is a translation basicly) same-sex marrage is illigal.

    /thread and /nb4lawkorqqorectbaibai
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  • Svarius - Heavens Tear
    Svarius - Heavens Tear Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I would love to see an automatic-banhammer feature for people who continually insist on starting these futile topics.
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  • LovesTragedy - Lost City
    LovesTragedy - Lost City Posts: 474 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    No one cares. Go away.
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  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Oh god... not this again. If you bothered reading ANYTHING like you said u did, why are you whining. This game is BASED ON CHINESE IDEALS. Even though this is a American "susidiary" version of the game (idk how else to put that atm...), it's OWNED by the chinese, RAN by the chinese, and DEVELOPED by the chinese.

    btw... homosexual marriages in RL keep getting shot down by voters too (least here in FL). Food for thought...
  • MiniDusk - Heavens Tear
    MiniDusk - Heavens Tear Posts: 931 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    What Hunny said LMFAO! I'm bi too so yeah.... QQing won't help ya here.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Ummm...ok b:shutup
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    kthxbai
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  • Mraochan - Lost City
    Mraochan - Lost City Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    K here's whatcha do:

    - Pick a char name with a capital I or lowercase L in the name

    - Find someone you want to marry

    - Make alts with a capital I or lowercase L in the name

    - Switch the I and L in the other alts' name and get married

    - Put alts away and live happily ever after

    Amirite b:victory
  • Pervs - Lost City
    Pervs - Lost City Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    If you let *** marriage in the game. The only cultivation option should be demon.
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  • Fintan - Lost City
    Fintan - Lost City Posts: 1,245 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    For fear of being painted as not being "sympathetic", I have to point out that the game world is based upon old Chinese legends. So, yes, I'd have to say that the Chinese cultural aspects matter.

    Would I like to see same-sex marriage as an option? Sure. Do I expect it to fit into the legend of the game world? No. Do I play anyway? Yes.

    We're playing a game, one which takes place in an old-fashioned world which has many values we may no longer agree with. There's even a quest where you help a mother send her last son off to the war that's already claimed her husband and other children.

    You don't see that sort of blind faith in war anymore. I can't expect that they'd be progressive toward marriage if those are the sorts of values they still cherish in this game world. And don't even get us started on in-game racism. b:chuckle
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  • Tricannon - Dreamweaver
    Tricannon - Dreamweaver Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    i srsly dont know any mmo that lets u do same sex marriage....honestly if ur looking for that then u should stop looking at mmo's to marry cause ull never find them...or go create your own but gl with that

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  • entaria
    entaria Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Fintan - Lost City wrote: »
    For fear of being painted as not being "sympathetic", I have to point out that the game world is based upon old Chinese legends. So, yes, I'd have to say that the Chinese cultural aspects matter.

    Would I like to see same-sex marriage as an option? Sure. Do I expect it to fit into the legend of the game world? No. Do I play anyway? Yes.

    We're playing a game, one which takes place in an old-fashioned world which has many values we may no longer agree with. There's even a quest where you help a mother send her last son off to the war that's already claimed her husband and other children.

    You don't see that sort of blind faith in war anymore. I can't expect that they'd be progressive toward marriage if those are the sorts of values they still cherish in this game world. And don't even get us started on in-game racism. b:chuckle

    Thanks for the thoughtful reply. That's a reasonable point, but I still don't think it's sufficient rationale from a business perspective to justify alienating a chunk of your potential market.

    Obviously this is a point that people have noted before me. I am not the first, second, or third person to post a thread of this sort. That alone should indicate that it's bothering a certain percentage of the potential playerbase and present a serious argument for altering the policy.
  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    It's not even commonly legal in real life, what makes you think it would be legal here?

    Has it ever occurred to you the possible ramifications how allowing as oppose to maintaining the status quo?
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  • chaoticshelly
    chaoticshelly Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Not this again.

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