Is flesh ream OP in PVP?

Yulk_owns - Lost City
Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
edited February 2011 in Barbarian
Honest question here. 100% accuracy + bleed + stacks
I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

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  • threepointone
    threepointone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    /inbeforelock
  • Blade_aether - Lost City
    Blade_aether - Lost City Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    No.

    It is terrible, it uses too much chi, even sage version.

    Does not instant addon damage.

    Stacked bleed is negligible in PVP, bleeding some one for 30 a second is awful.

    There are many other better uses of chi.


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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Blade_aether - Lost City wrote: »
    No.

    It is terrible, it uses too much chi, even sage version.

    Does not instant addon damage.

    Stacked bleed is negligible in PVP, bleeding some one for 30 a second is awful.

    There are many other better uses of chi.


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    +1

    Flesh Ream is not OP in anyway.
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  • Kyrael - Dreamweaver
    Kyrael - Dreamweaver Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Methinks the OP is thinking of veno pets' ream. b:surrender Which indeed is broken, and thus OP if you don't have enough HP or pdef to counter it.

    Sadly, barb FR doesn't have the same glitch. b:sad It is handy at lower levels though; I can count more than three times I've had a robe class die from a couple FR bleeds while they're trying to get away when they realize I have the HP to take their hits. I assume the damage becomes negligible higher up though.
  • RioNHale - Archosaur
    RioNHale - Archosaur Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    nix flesh ream (lvl 100 nix) = 3k damage on my 101 barb (with over 9k p.def human unbuffed) in 15 seconds

    my ream bleed at 101 with +8 tt100 poleaxe = 120 bleed every 2-3 seconds on average geared AA players over 30 seconds.



    Flesh Ream is in NO way OP in pvp -.-
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  • RoidAbuse - Sanctuary
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Yes.
    Please nerf.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Kind of nice on squishy since who stand in ones place after you invoke and ream a couple times.

    It's a viable strategy but easily countered and not overpowered.
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  • MrSyko - Raging Tide
    MrSyko - Raging Tide Posts: 515 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Blade_aether - Lost City wrote: »
    There are many other better uses of chi.

    This. Save your chi for Devour, Invoke, or sparking.
  • Furries - Dreamweaver
    Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    its not over powered no. but its not usless either.
    being able to get a sure fire hit on ur opponent is very important. we have all been in situations where we just need that 1 last hit but we cant seem to land it. flesh ream works wonder vs high evasion chars. and while the dot might not be that much till 89, over the entire bleed duration u effectively did another as much damage as 1 more hit. i cant tell u how mnay duels i have won vs sin becuase flesh ream 100% accracy and damage over time.
    stack a couple reams and you have that many sure fire hits. then when those wussy sins see u hitting and get scared they stealth out. well too bad for them. while they were waiting and not attcking me to stay hidden, all that damage over time was able to take effect.

    Sins like to run away and prolong the duel. this where were u can use damage over time to your advantage.
    Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.
  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    RioNHale - Archosaur wrote: »
    nix flesh ream (lvl 100 nix) = 3k damage on my 101 barb (with over 9k p.def human unbuffed) in 15 seconds

    my ream bleed at 101 with +8 tt100 poleaxe = 120 bleed every 2-3 seconds on average geared AA players over 30 seconds.



    Flesh Ream is in NO way OP in pvp -.-

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  • Man - Raging Tide
    Man - Raging Tide Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I can't ever remember using in pvp, but tell me

    Does a bleed or dmg over time spell keep a sin out of forced stealth? LIke they go into stealth and take some more bleed dmg and pop out? No i don't think they do.

    Vs sins yeah 100% accuracy spells are good but use mighty swing. When i'm in tiger i can't do enough dmg to kill a fly...

    Can't wait till i get my r9 axe, Kill a group of ppl with Sunder again! Just like the good old days.
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  • Furries - Dreamweaver
    Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Man - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I can't ever remember using in pvp, but tell me

    Does a bleed or dmg over time spell keep a sin out of forced stealth? LIke they go into stealth and take some more bleed dmg and pop out? No i don't think they do.

    Vs sins yeah 100% accuracy spells are good but use mighty swing. When i'm in tiger i can't do enough dmg to kill a fly...

    Can't wait till i get my r9 axe, Kill a group of ppl with Sunder again! Just like the good old days.

    not it wont know it out of stealth, but will still damage them.
    and if thier in stealth thier not attcking you, meaning ream damage over time it hitting them and ur not getting hit. so in a way its not really that bad. the loger they stay hidden the more damage they take. until the duration runs out at least. but still, its free damage on them when ur not geting hit.

    and as for ur damage being bad in tiger form... thats the cost of being sage. yeah u have nice hp and def in tiger, and nice damage in human. but as demon i can do my max damge in tiger form, allowing me to get the hp and and speed benfits of tiger witout haveing to worry about damage reduction. and therefor giveing me a much better edge in pvp than sage barbs have.
    Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.
  • WayOfTheFist - Dreamweaver
    WayOfTheFist - Dreamweaver Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    its definitely not OP, however I have had FR turn a fight to my favor against a sin, where after his deaden nerves saved him from death he stealthed, i went tiger form and waited for him, soon as he came back i landed a ream right before he stunned me. then he just kindab:laugh fell over dead while attacking me.
  • Must - Lost City
    Must - Lost City Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Its question coming from Yulk, his highest char is lvl 50 please.....
    b:bye
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    not it wont know it out of stealth, but will still damage them.
    and if thier in stealth thier not attcking you, meaning ream damage over time it hitting them and ur not getting hit. so in a way its not really that bad. the loger they stay hidden the more damage they take. until the duration runs out at least. but still, its free damage on them when ur not geting hit.

    Sage Shadow escape is also purify, ijs.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Sage Shadow escape is also purify, ijs.

    No, it doesn't ijs.
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  • threepointone
    threepointone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No, it doesn't ijs.

    Yes, it does, ijs.
  • codeq
    codeq Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I think flesh ream is opposite of OP. How can it be Op when high int sins or bm can steal agro from barb well easily. So I don't think it's any good in PvP

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