Best damage dealer Class
chesimedejas
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Can some1 tell me which one is the most DAMAGE DEALER class and DPS (damage per second)? I dont care if its VERY OMFG expensive :P
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Assassin.0
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Oh, and there's any kind of BATTLE MAGE? Not a mage with magic sword that hit by 5 (PA) and receive dmg about 500000 -.-0
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Unfortunately not at the moment. The Seeker is some sort of magic swordsman, but caster classes are otherwise a bit underpowered in this game, dps-wise.0
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R9 wizards 1shot rest of the server, R9 sins can 1shot all but highly refined HA, wish they only would hit once, instead of 4 or 5 times/second.Trolling Sid since So Hot
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Well, since he's interested in DPS, I guess wizzies are not for him. We get the highest DPH, but our DPS is poor. b:chuckle0
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chesimedejas wrote: »Oh, and there's any kind of BATTLE MAGE? Not a mage with magic sword that hit by 5 (PA) and receive dmg about 500000 -.-
Venos in Foxform is as close as it gets atm. o.o Seekers are a Warrior class, not really mages.0 -
chesimedejas wrote: »Oh, and there's any kind of BATTLE MAGE? Not a mage with magic sword that hit by 5 (PA) and receive dmg about 500000 -.-
The classes in this game are very black and white. No middle ground really. You have glass cannons and glass tanks.
Ok, I lied...it's black and black.Some people risk to employ me
Some people live to destroy me
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Then the most DD class? D=0
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Sorry assassins but Wizards are more scary in PVP... they may stealth and stuff but the bottom line is same refine and they won't one shot you.... where as to the wizard could.
What I'm saying is you have more time to react to a assassin popping out of stealth than a wizard coming out of nowhere and slamming a mountain on you.0 -
chesimedejas wrote: »Can some1 tell me which one is the most DAMAGE DEALER class and DPS (damage per second)? I dont care if its VERY OMFG expensive :P
-for physical damage your best choice is an assassin, and if you care not about a high attack rate, upgrade your "chill of the deep" skill, it increases attack level while decreasing attack rate, but you'll be close range.
-if you'd like ta do slightly less physical damage, but have range, go with archer.
-best magical DD is hands down a wizard, if you want high magic damage, go with a full magic stat wizard, and upgrade your "glacial embrace" skill you get at lvl 9, it increases mp regain rate, you'll need it.chesimedejas wrote: »Oh, and there's any kind of BATTLE MAGE? Not a mage with magic sword that hit by 5 (PA) and receive dmg about 500000 -.-
unfortunitly, there is no such class at the moment. however on march second the game is releasing an expansion with a new class known as seekers. they are basically BMs that only use swords and can use several elemental skills. so if you'd like a class that deals some magic damage, i'd make a sword BM and fool around until march 2nd on it just ta get used to a heavy armor sword user, and then make a seeker on march 2nd^^
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light armor rules, and JOKERZz are the best. shaff, you meh dogg. Neko, you smexy redhead you, yer my favorite veno out there. Evo, yer straight up crazy. Lillie, thanks fer giving LA cerics a good name. hask, what can't you tank? Kyo, yer wizard biuld sucks, and yer obsession with aps annoys me, but eveni will admit, yer a frackin pro. Chick, our dad's would be great friends in rl, and we'd have so much fun messin with them. fer all the rest of the clan, *salutes* at yer service doggs.b:cool0 -
Lyritha - Heavens Tear wrote: »Sorry assassins but Wizards are more scary in PVP... they may stealth and stuff but the bottom line is same refine and they won't one shot you.... where as to the wizard could.
What I'm saying is you have more time to react to a assassin popping out of stealth than a wizard coming out of nowhere and slamming a mountain on you.
Yes, because Mountain Seize doesn't have an 8-second channeling time or anything. b:chuckle I get interrupted by an arrow or by a thrown dagger almost instantly if I try to cast an ultimate in PvP. In my experience, using sutra and the spells with low casting time (gush, pyro, divine pyro, pitfall, etc.) are a better way to go unless you are specifically trying to take out an entire group.
For a "battle mage", I guess you could go light armor and get demon stone barrier for a 150% bonus to physical defense. With 20,000 pdef, it would be easier to tank melee battles. However, doing this comes at the expense of lower magical defense and less overall attack power.
I've always wondered if anyone has tried a really weird build, like an aps wizard or aps psychic. A light-armor psy with white voodoo seems like it would be very tough to kill. And a 5-aps psychic with black voodoo sounds just plain scary. However, you would sacrifice a ton of magic attack power doing one of these builds.
Has anyone tried a really weird caster build? If not, maybe I'll buy a reset note and try out a fist psy just to see what it's like, lol.0 -
Valrain - Archosaur wrote: »Yes, because Mountain Seize doesn't have an 8-second channeling time or anything. b:chuckle I get interrupted by an arrow or by a thrown dagger almost instantly if I try to cast an ultimate in PvP. In my experience, using sutra and the spells with low casting time (gush, pyro, divine pyro, pitfall, etc.) are a better way to go unless you are specifically trying to take out an entire group.
For a "battle mage", I guess you could go light armor and get demon stone barrier for a 150% bonus to physical defense. With 20,000 pdef, it would be easier to tank melee battles. However, doing this comes at the expense of lower magical defense and less overall attack power.
I've always wondered if anyone has tried a really weird build, like an aps wizard or aps psychic. A light-armor psy with white voodoo seems like it would be very tough to kill. And a 5-aps psychic with black voodoo sounds just plain scary. However, you would sacrifice a ton of magic attack power doing one of these builds.
Has anyone tried a really weird caster build? If not, maybe I'll buy a reset note and try out a fist psy just to see what it's like, lol.
I got banned once and tried out a fist psychic.... it is not fun... don't try it.
Anyhow the people that cast that on me usually are accompanied by rank 9 and a simple arrow will not interrupt their nearly nothing channel with all their -channel gear on.0 -
Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »The classes in this game are very black and white. No middle ground really. You have glass cannons and glass tanks.
Ok, I lied...it's black and black.
racist[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
when life gives you lemons
put them in a sack and beat your wife
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Now: Cash shop items gives to much advantage?0
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Valrain - Archosaur wrote: »Yes, because Mountain Seize doesn't have an 8-second channeling time or anything. b:chuckle I get interrupted by an arrow or by a thrown dagger almost instantly if I try to cast an ultimate in PvP. In my experience, using sutra and the spells with low casting time (gush, pyro, divine pyro, pitfall, etc.) are a better way to go unless you are specifically trying to take out an entire group.
For a "battle mage", I guess you could go light armor and get demon stone barrier for a 150% bonus to physical defense. With 20,000 pdef, it would be easier to tank melee battles. However, doing this comes at the expense of lower magical defense and less overall attack power.
I've always wondered if anyone has tried a really weird build, like an aps wizard or aps psychic. A light-armor psy with white voodoo seems like it would be very tough to kill. And a 5-aps psychic with black voodoo sounds just plain scary. However, you would sacrifice a ton of magic attack power doing one of these builds.
Has anyone tried a really weird caster build? If not, maybe I'll buy a reset note and try out a fist psy just to see what it's like, lol.
i knew a LA aps Psychic.. not very goodAttacking at the speed of Suck since 20090 -
WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »-best magical DD is hands down a wizard, if you want high magic damage, go with a full magic stat wizard, and upgrade your "glacial embrace" skill you get at lvl 9, it increases mp regain rate, you'll need it.
psychics are arguably better. And I don't just mean with black voodoo. Their lvl 100 skill has dph close to BIDS, their weapons refine better, black voodoo if they don't mind being one shot, and they definitely have waaay better dps than us.
how much mp you have? I personally have over 16k when buffed. maxed glacial embrace does not help. At any level. Ever.
10mp per second < spirit and coin it costs to upgrade skill.
If you plan to tank some magic mobs, so be it, raise it. But the mp regen isn't even worth mentioning.WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »unfortunitly
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Valrain - Archosaur wrote: »I've always wondered if anyone has tried a really weird build, like an aps wizard or aps psychic. A light-armor psy with white voodoo seems like it would be very tough to kill. And a 5-aps psychic with black voodoo sounds just plain scary. However, you would sacrifice a ton of magic attack power doing one of these builds.
Has anyone tried a really weird caster build? If not, maybe I'll buy a reset note and try out a fist psy just to see what it's like, lol.
Fist Veno would work. Demon spark would help make up for the loss in mastery. Can be build to support both current fist and magic weapon, but it takes some work.
Tried a lower level form of it and it's working alright so far. o.o0 -
aps psy? there is no extra dmg for demon spark nor -int....0
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Lyritha - Heavens Tear wrote: »Sorry assassins but Wizards are more scary in PVP... they may stealth and stuff but the bottom line is same refine and they won't one shot you.... where as to the wizard could.
What I'm saying is you have more time to react to a assassin popping out of stealth than a wizard coming out of nowhere and slamming a mountain on you.
I know a sin with 153 atk lvls , try not getting 1 shot, I dare you.BladedZero - Sanctuary
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chesimedejas wrote: »Now: Cash shop items gives to much advantage?
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Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »I know a sin with 153 atk lvls , try not getting 1 shot, I dare you.
But he's just a sin... they're run of the mill everyone and their mom has one... I still deem the rank 9 wizard more scary than any assassin. Overall I'm saying as a class the wizard is just more deadly as compared to the high amount of assassins who have only refined the weapon and get one shot once you use a detection pot.
So overall I see more prepared wizards than I see assassins.0 -
DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »psychics are arguably better. And I don't just mean with black voodoo. Their lvl 100 skill has dph close to BIDS, their weapons refine better, black voodoo if they don't mind being one shot, and they definitely have waaay better dps than us.
how much mp you have? I personally have over 16k when buffed. maxed glacial embrace does not help. At any level. Ever.
10mp per second < spirit and coin it costs to upgrade skill.
If you plan to tank some magic mobs, so be it, raise it. But the mp regen isn't even worth mentioning.
what you did to that poor word should be illegal.
what i did that poor word?...
psychics are not better DDs, a better pvp class yes, but not a better DD.
my mp level is irrelivent to the conversation, i'm an LA rock shield user, not exactly the best DD ^^" i only got like 5k when buffed and being LA i'm not mp efficient what so ever, but ice shield does help my regain when i'm resting, and ever wizard i've talked to other than you seems ta think glacial embrace helps, especially the demon version with the 15 regain point increase.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
light armor rules, and JOKERZz are the best. shaff, you meh dogg. Neko, you smexy redhead you, yer my favorite veno out there. Evo, yer straight up crazy. Lillie, thanks fer giving LA cerics a good name. hask, what can't you tank? Kyo, yer wizard biuld sucks, and yer obsession with aps annoys me, but eveni will admit, yer a frackin pro. Chick, our dad's would be great friends in rl, and we'd have so much fun messin with them. fer all the rest of the clan, *salutes* at yer service doggs.b:cool0 -
Lyritha - Heavens Tear wrote: »But he's just a sin... they're run of the mill everyone and their mom has one... I still deem the rank 9 wizard more scary than any assassin. Overall I'm saying as a class the wizard is just more deadly as compared to the high amount of assassins who have only refined the weapon and get one shot once you use a detection pot.
So overall I see more prepared wizards than I see assassins.
yep wizards are the shiznit.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
light armor rules, and JOKERZz are the best. shaff, you meh dogg. Neko, you smexy redhead you, yer my favorite veno out there. Evo, yer straight up crazy. Lillie, thanks fer giving LA cerics a good name. hask, what can't you tank? Kyo, yer wizard biuld sucks, and yer obsession with aps annoys me, but eveni will admit, yer a frackin pro. Chick, our dad's would be great friends in rl, and we'd have so much fun messin with them. fer all the rest of the clan, *salutes* at yer service doggs.b:cool0 -
Sins of course. Assassins have so much higher dps than any other class, its really silly and pretty unbalanced.
My archer at 5.0 = about 9.8k sparked with +8 Deicide
My BM at 5.0 = about 12k sparked with +8 Deicide
My sin at 5.0 = 20k sparked with Nirvana Daggers +10 (first cast) than add the +40 crit bonus on top of that.
Its pretty much 100% more dmg than both bm/archer - they use a weapon with slightly lower refine of course. But even if they would be using Regicide +10 they still be gimped as DDs compare to the assassin.
(I share gear on most my chars tho, would never be able to afford pimping out 3 chars to 5.0 b:surrender). But its rather fascinating how big the difference in dmg is. Sins are really OP in terms of DPS, no question about that.0 -
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Until we fully know what seeker can do, the only kind of battle mage that as some succes are the heavy veno. Being one myself, melee is nice, side tanking can be fun, huge drop in magic attack(I was prepared for it, but my lv75 psy now got more matk being pure mag).
There is two way to go about it:
-fist and being a 5aps, not a great idea imo, but the only caster class that can pull it since our sparks actually boost our melee. Only way it be a good idea is if you're recycling a high lv veno for farming and prefer to use veno debuff to bm/sin skill...
-magic weapon, melee is lower of course, but we can fully fonction as a jack-of-all-trade, master of none. Magic is still weaker than pure mag veno, but you can actually use it. My own veno fit in this part, and needed +stats gear a ton to equip both the armors and weapon at my own lv.
Eitheir way, being an HA veno is not the top choice, harder to gears among others things, but it's as it's good side and that's own I rolled mine.
Otherwise, most of the answers were right about the dps and dph class.0 -
not to mention HA venos can have epic hp pools with HA refines.0
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Havilah - Sanctuary wrote: »
There is two way to go about it:
-fist and being a 5aps, not a great idea imo, but the only caster class that can pull it since our sparks actually boost our melee.
Demon Cleric:
"Discharges three Sparks to recover 20% of your maximum MP,
add 700% weapon damage, and increase attack speed by 25%
for 15 seconds. Grants invincibility for 3 seconds after the discharge."
Demon Wizard:
"Discharges three Sparks to recover 20% of your maximum MP,
add 700% weapon damage, and increase attack speed by 25%
for 15 seconds. Grants invincibility for 3 seconds after the discharge."
Demon Psychic:
"Discharges three Sparks to recover 20% of your maximum MP,
add 700% weapon damage, and increase attack speed by 25%
for 15 seconds. Grants invincibility for 3 seconds after the discharge."
Demon Veno:
650% weapon attack
for 15 seconds
-lol?
There is no definitive best dps class as there are too many variables in the game.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »what i did that poor word?...
you bent it over backwards and misspelled it hardcore yo...
Please stop talking about things you know nothing about b:byeWhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »psychics are not better DDs, a better pvp class yes, but not a better DD.
Psys are defintly a strong PvP class, but between BIDS, BT, and sutra, we're a better PvP class in my opinion.
Also, psys are better DDs. Period. There's absolutely no question, when boss/mob killing, a psy in black voodoo destroys wizards in dps, which is really the only DD that matters in PvE.
Which is why you shouldn't be a wizard. You gave up fire power for defense. What do you think you are, a veno? Wizards don't give 2 ****s about their hp and defense, your job is to drop nukes. You completely misunderstand the entire concept behind the wizard if you roll an LA wiz.WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »my mp level is irrelivent to the conversation, i'm an LA rock shield user, not exactly the best DD ^^"
Btw, LA sucks endgame. Like bad. It doesn't make you "okay" against all forms of attack, it makes you horrible against all forms of attack equally.
ijsb:bye
Names. Now.WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »ever wizard i've talked to other than you seems ta think glacial embrace helps, especially the demon version with the 15 regain point increase.
Our server has the least amount of wizards I've ever seen on any server (and I've played on pretty much every server).
I'd most likely know this wizards. Maybe even have them added. If they're giving you advice like that, then they themselves are pretty misled and need some help...0
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