Tiger Attack for psy
AHTl - Heavens Tear
Posts: 17 Arc User
On bh today with my barb, i have a 100+ psy all r8 full of tiger attack +1 ...
On my own psy, R8 too, i m waiting to choose which gems to put on my 99 wrist and more money for Sapphire on my r8 weapon.
I'm not a god in math (my main is pure barb, no brain), what do u thinkto use tiger in wrist or in weapon may be too.
Sapphire is +75, and i think Tiger Attack is +1 %.
Can u help my poor brain to make choice please b:puzzled
On my own psy, R8 too, i m waiting to choose which gems to put on my 99 wrist and more money for Sapphire on my r8 weapon.
I'm not a god in math (my main is pure barb, no brain), what do u thinkto use tiger in wrist or in weapon may be too.
Sapphire is +75, and i think Tiger Attack is +1 %.
Can u help my poor brain to make choice please b:puzzled
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ask the archers, they would know.0
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on weapon:
no, no, no DoT.
some math (spirit blast):
1.52*1.2*[3000+(WD+X)+(WD+X)*(1+mag/100)] =
5472 + 1.824*(WD+X)*(2+mag/100)
1.53*1.2*[3000+WD+WD*(1+mag/100)]=
5508 + 1.836*WD*(2+mag/100)
diff:
Shard - DOT =
-36 + (2+mag/100)*(1.824*WD + 1.824*X -1.836WD) =
-36 + (2+mag/100)*(-0.012*WD + 1.824*X)
ur mag should be ~400, weapon dmg ~1861 (+5 sphere)
so
-36 + 6*(-22+1.824X) >0
-22 +1.824X > 6
1.824X > 28
X > 15
so yeah, put a sapphire. if u have to wait to get it, put a immac or a flawless; even that is better than a dot.
now for armor.. depends. if u want more attack put dot
if u want defense get citrine/garnet.0 -
ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »on weapon:
no, no, no DoT.
some math (spirit blast):
1.52*1.2*[3000+(WD+X)+(WD+X)*(1+mag/100)] =
5472 + 1.824*(WD+X)*(2+mag/100)
1.53*1.2*[3000+WD+WD*(1+mag/100)]=
5508 + 1.836*WD*(2+mag/100)
diff:
Shard - DOT =
-36 + (2+mag/100)*(1.824*WD + 1.824*X -1.836WD) =
-36 + (2+mag/100)*(-0.012*WD + 1.824*X)
ur mag should be ~400, weapon dmg ~1861 (+5 sphere)
so
-36 + 6*(-22+1.824X) >0
-22 +1.824X > 6
1.824X > 28
X > 15
so yeah, put a sapphire. if u have to wait to get it, put a immac or a flawless; even that is better than a dot.
now for armor.. depends. if u want more attack put dot
if u want defense get citrine/garnet.
TLDR: Put DoTs if you want to be laughed at on a real server. Even then people still put DoTs in their weapon.0 -
MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »TLDR: Put DoTs if you want to be laughed at on a real server. Even then people still put DoTs in their weapon.
hey it's better than -chan stones or amethysts :b0 -
Thx Professors for these informations.
I keep Sapphire in mind for weapon, may be DOT on wrist0 -
ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »now for armor.. depends. if u want more attack put dot
if u want defense get citrine/JoSD.
fixed
srsly putting garnet gems in armor is...*facepalm* great u take like 10%(Maybe?) less damge from phy attacks, have like 2k less hp and get 1 shoted by magic classes if ur amror isnt greatly refined....
and if ur wonderin, my opinion is base on experience, fight a wiz and cleric both lv 100, r8 weps +4-5 armor, but full garnet shards....they die in 1-2 normal, non chi hits....full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D0 -
DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »fixed
srsly putting garnet gems in armor is...*facepalm* great u take like 10%(Maybe?) less damge from phy attacks, have like 2k less hp and get 1 shoted by magic classes if ur amror isnt greatly refined....
and if ur wonderin, my opinion is base on experience, fight a wiz and cleric both lv 100, r8 weps +4-5 armor, but full garnet shards....they die in 1-2 normal, non chi hits....
I agree with this. Buts that's just my opinion too.
This conversation reminds me of a Cleric I saw today with Rank 8 Weapon with 2x DoTs in it. I won't name the cleric b:surrender0 -
DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »fixed
srsly putting garnet gems in armor is...*facepalm* great u take like 10%(Maybe?) less damge from phy attacks, have like 2k less hp and get 1 shoted by magic classes if ur amror isnt greatly refined....
and if ur wonderin, my opinion is base on experience, fight a wiz and cleric both lv 100, r8 weps +4-5 armor, but full garnet shards....they die in 1-2 normal, non chi hits....
they built their characters wrong...Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »fixed
srsly putting garnet gems in armor is...*facepalm* great u take like 10%(Maybe?) less damge from phy attacks, have like 2k less hp and get 1 shoted by magic classes if ur amror isnt greatly refined....
and if ur wonderin, my opinion is base on experience, fight a wiz and cleric both lv 100, r8 weps +4-5 armor, but full garnet shards....they die in 1-2 normal, non chi hits....
disclaimer: i dot plan to shard garnets for my endgame build (well, maybe 2-4 depending on some gear)
magic classes? wizzies have BT, venos nixes, clerics plume.
psychics... in theory there is red tide and soulburn but not reliable
while garnets are pointless against magic attacks, you really need at least 3.2k pdef.
while you might avoid being an one-shot from a gush, you will be a half-shot by any archer.
on the other hand, 3.2k is (easily) attainable without garnets
i dont like JoSD for 2 reasons:
1)pointless if u are in white.
2)depending on your hp, sharding with vit/hp is usually better.
3)too trendy for my taste b:chuckle
how is the psy killing wiz/cleric with garnets related to this? we are talking about how the psy would survive.
ofc there is psy will; but that's why you will wnat to avoid the oneshot form that archer 32m away. i wont bother with sins.
all in all: what you shard is related to your base armor.
if you are a one-shot by magic attacks with X-2k hp, you are still an one shot for physical attack with X hpMizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »they built their characters wrong...
you have mail b:avoid0 -
ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »disclaimer: i dot plan to shard garnets for my endgame build (well, maybe 2-4 depending on some gear)
magic classes? wizzies have BT, venos nixes, clerics plume.
psychics... in theory there is red tide and soulburn but not reliable
while garnets are pointless against magic attacks, you really need at least 3.2k pdef.
while you might avoid being an one-shot from a gush, you will be a half-shot by any archer.
on the other hand, 3.2k is (easily) attainable without garnets
i dont like JoSD for 2 reasons:
1)pointless if u are in white.
2)depending on your hp, sharding with vit/hp is usually better.
3)too trendy for my taste b:chuckle
Your kinda provin my point, yes phy attacks hurt, thats eitheir Citrine is better because it helps vs BOTH magic and phy attacks, the more hp you have the harder you are to one shot, especially when you keep retation on, or if you already have a lot of hp due to refines, JOSD, yes they r useless in white voodoo for PVE however, you can either be black voodoo w/ white voodoo def lv then OR be white voodoo and make all the att lv gained by other player's r9 gear go away.
IMO shardin garnet pointless, but to who ever thinks its a good idea, well w/e, just helps me sell garnet shards faster b:pleasedfull 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D0 -
DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »Your kinda provin my point, yes phy attacks hurt, thats eitheir Citrine is better because it helps vs BOTH magic and phy attacks, the more hp you have the harder you are to one shot, especially when you keep retation on, or if you already have a lot of hp due to refines, JOSD, yes they r useless in white voodoo for PVE however, you can either be black voodoo w/ white voodoo def lv then OR be white voodoo and make all the att lv gained by other player's r9 gear go away.
IMO shardin garnet pointless, but to who ever thinks its a good idea, well w/e, just helps me sell garnet shards faster b:pleased
i think that we are missing yulk or something like that so we argue while we support pretty much the same thing xd
full garnet sharding with pdef over 3.2k...no ty
a bit of garnets to reach 3-3.2k is ok
but i would focus on pdef ornament refining or lunar rings
besides, pdef charms are cheaper than mdef and u can use expel more times than AD (stupid 3mi cd qq). and psy will ofc.0
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