Expel in TW?

MageFizban - Lost City
MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
edited January 2011 in General Discussion
For some reason when I try to use expel in TW, it fails. I have no problem using it outside in open pk.

I even select myself in TW and click the expel button so it's not like I'm trying to buff the attacker or even another squad member. Any one else have this problem and/or know the solution?

I'm guessing it has to do with the buff filter. I watched some TW vids of a cleric on a PVE server in TW and her expel works perfectly.
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    IDK about TW, but I have noticed on my Cleric in open world PK that Expel now cast on yourself if you target someone else and have the buff filer on, instead of just wasted as no effect on them if they have neutral buff filter on.
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    IDK about TW, but I have noticed on my Cleric in open world PK that Expel now cast on yourself if you target someone else and have the buff filer on, instead of just wasted as no effect on them if they have neutral buff filter on.

    Yeah I know that. I don't try to expel people in open pvp. I was thinking maybe I had to turn off my neutral buff filter for TW? That was one of the possible solutions to the problem in my mind.

    Although idk why neutral buffing myself would be a problem since obviously I clicked it. . .
  • hahahahahahah1
    hahahahahahah1 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    Yeah I know that. I don't try to expel people in open pvp. I was thinking maybe I had to turn off my neutral buff filter for TW? That was one of the possible solutions to the problem in my mind.

    Although idk why neutral buffing myself would be a problem since obviously I clicked it. . .
    Yea it does not work in tw. They probably did that to make sure no one abuses it so the main tank is always immune.
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    hahahahahahah1 wrote: »
    Yea it does not work in tw. They probably did that to make sure no one abuses it so the main tank is always immune.

    It DOES work in TW. . .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCd4DLsxbT8#t=2m42s

    Watch cleric buffs at 2:45.
  • hahahahahahah1
    hahahahahahah1 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    O_o Now that you showed that vid it makes me want to test it in tw again. Last time I did it on tw it did not work.
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Exactly why I'm posing this question. I know it works. I'm hypothesizing it is related to the buff filter settings.
  • Cheze - Lost City
    Cheze - Lost City Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    nah it has nothing to do with the buff filter. It only works if you're not a nub. That's why it doesn't work for me either.
  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Doesn't work for me either, but can use it in open map.
  • Graey_Rain - Harshlands
    Graey_Rain - Harshlands Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Hmmm, wouldn't know I never tried it in tw because I figured some arcane would just go and **** me if I did >.>
    AD FTW!
  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    No wonder expel never worked in tw >_>
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  • Tutty - Lost City
    Tutty - Lost City Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I answered this like 4 days ago fizban, /rage
  • Evanera - Heavens Tear
    Evanera - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,423 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Hm? Expel works just fine for me in TW.
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Tutty - Lost City wrote: »
    I answered this like 4 days ago fizban, /rage

    Guess I should have used the search function. But I didn't want to sift through the all the **** I would have gotten.
  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    so what's the answer? search on this forum is **** I found nothing by you in the last 4 days.
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    i think it only works if you have buff filter off and select yourself
    i like potato
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I do not know about needing to turn the buff filter off, but I have gotten "target out of range" when trying to use expel in tw, when I had an opposing faction member selected and with my buff filter set for squad only.

    I suspect that the underlying implementation variables, that the buff filter inspects are different (perhaps even irrelevant) in TW -- that the buff filter was only implemented to work in open PvP.

    Anyways, I remember writing a trouble ticket about this and I got back a generic acknowledgement. I am not sure if the devs upstream would have gotten enough detail to isolate the problem.
  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Strange if having buff filter set to only you or faction etc messes with it. Cause thats how it works for clerics buff/heal. If sqaud/faction is selected in options, it casts on self. They some how screwed up expell ? Also dont think wizards have a need for squad/faction selected in the filter? So thats a fix for that.
  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    For some reason when I try to use expel in TW, it fails. I have no problem using it outside in open pk.

    I even select myself in TW and click the expel button so it's not like I'm trying to buff the attacker or even another squad member. Any one else have this problem and/or know the solution?

    I'm guessing it has to do with the buff filter. I watched some TW vids of a cleric on a PVE server in TW and her expel works perfectly.

    I've experienced this in TW and PK before, the skill can work in either case. I think the problem has to do with the distance between you and the enemy target. The effective distance of the skill expel is 20 meters. Even if you select yourself as the target to use the skill, you have to be at least 20 meters from the target attacking you in order for the effect of expel to perform for pvp (for pve and outside of TW or not in pk - the skill works when ever you want it to regardless of distance).

    I first notice this when killing sins and archers. I always have the filter on so that I cast expel on myself whether I have myself targeted or an enemy targeted for the effect. I realized that in the case with sins/melee enemies, I never had an issue with the skill expel not working. However, for archers (attacking me from 30+ meters away) it sometimes does not work - even if I had selected myself for the buff. Unless I am closer to them.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I always have the filter on so that I cast expel on myself whether I have myself targeted or an enemy targeted for the effect.

    Always? It didn't always cast on yourself, with buff filter options, after they added in the neutral buff filter so Wiz/Archer can't just Expel someone and nuke away. I'm not sure when it started casting on yourself as a buff if you had filters. When they first added neutral buff filter, it just casts and does nothing on a target with the neutral buff block.

    But anyways, it seems the skill is broken, so let's just remove it from the game b:pleased.
  • Hhlolz - Harshlands
    Hhlolz - Harshlands Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Works fine for me
    *Faildom*
    I don't need a Squad
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