Perfect World Addons

Wizzeled - Sanctuary
Wizzeled - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
edited December 2011 in General Discussion
Do any exist? like say addons onto the game that arnt bad, like say something that shows you TEXT number for a countdown on your Cool Downs of skills, that'd be amazing instead of watching a window washer. Just a mouse over and see a little number.



Any such programs out there?
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Even if there isn't, jus throwing my name in the hat of people that would get it
  • Wizzeled - Sanctuary
    Wizzeled - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Explain Kill.
    "can make it"?

    Cuz go for it.

    PWI needs addons like this stuff, makes the game a lot better. Any kinda add on, something that auto places a charm when ur old one runs out, little things like that. Make a huge difference. Think of Perfectworld like Firefox then, with tons of extentions to make stuff easier.
  • Shevanel - Sanctuary
    Shevanel - Sanctuary Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Someone made a buff timer. Showed you how long your buffs had till they ran out if you mouse over.
    Least I think that was it.. if the search function actually worked, im sure you could find it.. otherwise, a forum mod might be able to link it here, since they did in another thread.
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  • Wizzeled - Sanctuary
    Wizzeled - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I don't mean a serperate program, I mean something you can throw on PWI, or hell if its a seperate program mointor when you use a skill and have a timer count down till the skill is down, not BUFF timers I mean ATTACK skills.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Wizzeled - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I don't mean a serperate program, I mean something you can throw on PWI, or hell if its a seperate program mointor when you use a skill and have a timer count down till the skill is down, not BUFF timers I mean ATTACK skills.

    There are none because any it's a bannable offense.
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  • Xoria - Sanctuary
    Xoria - Sanctuary Posts: 419 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    They probably already exist, but it's a bannable offense, so it can't be listed here anyway.

    Fixed. However, having timers and such that don't interfere with the client or its files at all, I don't think they are a bannable offense.

    IE: A program that knows when, say, a buff runs out and moves the mouse, or generates a key stroke for you, interferes with the client (considered botting). However, a program that counts down the seconds/ minutes for you until a debuff or buff wears off as you manually use the mouse or hit the keys yourself and is outside of the client completely should be fine.

    However, I truthfully can't see the point in the latter....
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    From http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms
    20. Acknowledgements
    You hereby acknowledge and agree that:
    (a) WHEN USING THE SERVICES, THE SOFTWARE MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) AND/OR CPU PROCESSES FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE SOFTWARE. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY "ADD-ON" OR "MOD," THAT IN PWE'S SOLE DETERMINATION: (i) ENABLES OR FACILITATES CHEATING OF ANY TYPE; (ii) ALLOWS USERS TO MODIFY OR **** THE SOFTWARE INTERFACE, ENVIRONMENT, AND/OR EXPERIENCE IN ANY WAY NOT EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY PWE; OR (iii) INTERCEPTS, "MINES," OR OTHERWISE COLLECTS INFORMATION FROM OR THROUGH THE SOFTWARE.

    Looks like any third party software is a violation regardless if it is used for cheating or not.
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  • Nehru - Heavens Tear
    Nehru - Heavens Tear Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Xoria - Sanctuary wrote: »
    However, a program that counts down the seconds/ minutes for you until a debuff or buff wears off as you manually use the mouse or hit the keys yourself and is outside of the client completely should be fine.

    However, I truthfully can't see the point in the latter....
    In most cases, it would be a script that sets up a UI panel that displays the times already being tracked the game's own internal timers. It's useful if you're tracking buffs/Hots on members of several squads or debuffing multiple targets. I suppose it might get some hypothetical use in territory wars or other mass pvp. There's also some folks that like having a numerical timer on their spell cooldowns.

    These sorts of add-ons are more or less standard in most western MMOs. Back when I played [Name Redacted], I was the only healer in guild using the default UI. I remember listening to the folks throw a fit in vent every time there was a major patch and their UI broke. I generally had to pick up their slack on healing because they couldn't couldn't play unless they had their add-ons. It's a paradigm I can live without.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    From http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms



    Looks like any third party software is a violation regardless if it is used for cheating or not.

    It is more effective to ban all modifications than just some. By banning all of them, you completely eliminate the possibility of banning innocents and the actual bad people getting away via clever usage of words, e.g. "loopholes".

    And really, considering that you get banned with no questions asked, it's better not to take any risks.
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    From http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms



    Looks like any third party software is a violation regardless if it is used for cheating or not.

    I fell asleep half way through reading the quote b:shocked.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    What if you want to improve some texture by using texmod this is allowed in another rpg I play.
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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What if you want to improve some texture by using texmod this is allowed in another rpg I play.

    Please comprehend what has already been explained.

    Mods and addons are not allowed, and you can be banned for using them.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I did but texmod only effects what you see not others and it would be best to wait for an official answer not just reading the EULA.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I did but texmod only effects what you see not others and it would be best to wait for an official answer not just reading the EULA.

    You are modifying the game files. That's not allowed. The freaking end.
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    From http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms



    Looks like any third party software is a violation regardless if it is used for cheating or not.

    Which can easily be "covered up" by doing certain things to keep PWI's lil spy-bot out of your system. b:cute
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  • ChopChop - Raging Tide
    ChopChop - Raging Tide Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Nehru - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    In most cases, it would be a script that sets up a UI panel that displays the times already being tracked the game's own internal timers. It's useful if you're tracking buffs/Hots on members of several squads or debuffing multiple targets. I suppose it might get some hypothetical use in territory wars or other mass pvp. There's also some folks that like having a numerical timer on their spell cooldowns.

    These sorts of add-ons are more or less standard in most western MMOs. Back when I played [Name Redacted], I was the only healer in guild using the default UI. I remember listening to the folks throw a fit in vent every time there was a major patch and their UI broke. I generally had to pick up their slack on healing because they couldn't couldn't play unless they had their add-ons. It's a paradigm I can live without.

    I have also played with such add ons . Personaly i can play with or without them but some were realy useful to have.

    PWI does'nt need them, it has no complicated boss fights and you have time to think about what's happening around you.

    The problem with add ons is, it's another source to get **** if you dont take care in what you d/load.
  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Sounds like this person wants the a *feature* added to PWI to see how much time we have left on the buffs. So when you hover your mouse over a buff on your status bar it tells you how much time you have left on it.

    This sounds like a GOOD IDEA.

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  • sangodoc
    sangodoc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Shevanel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Someone made a buff timer. Showed you how long your buffs had till they ran out if you mouse over.
    Least I think that was it.. if the search function actually worked, im sure you could find it.. otherwise, a forum mod might be able to link it here, since they did in another thread.
    I just did a search on "buff timer" (with the quotes) and found it pretty easily: Buff Timer! by: Tequila_Wolf

    That thread also confirms that programs like that one do not violate the terms of service agreement.

    I might have to try my programming skills at making a better version of something like that, but my busy schedule has been preventing me from doing much of anything lately. (The last three weeks I've had 2 days off, if you don't count my 2 sick days. b:surrender Thankfully, I finally have two days off now.)
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  • Wizzeled - Sanctuary
    Wizzeled - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Sangodoc wrote: »
    I just did a search on "buff timer" (with the quotes) and found it pretty easily: Buff Timer! by: Tequila_Wolf

    That thread also confirms that programs like that one do not violate the terms of service agreement.

    I might have to try my programming skills at making a better version of something like that, but my busy schedule has been preventing me from doing much of anything lately. (The last three weeks I've had 2 days off, if you don't count my 2 sick days. b:surrender Thankfully, I finally have two days off now.)

    I wasn't referring to the Buff timer I'm asking for something that tells you when a skill is going to be cool'd down, because you have these 5 minute and 15 minute cool down's I'd like to have a NUMBER on it to know when it's close to done instead of having to watch a clock or something, same for all items like Apoth with a cool down, just a timer on it. I know of this "buff timer" but that is not what I am asking for.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You are modifying the game files. That's not allowed. The freaking end.

    It doesn't seem like know does it as spoons said in that other thread linked.
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  • X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,301 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Is it bannable if I hide from the client's built in spy bot thingy that spanks you if you open 2 clients?
  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited January 2011
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Is it bannable if I hide from the client's built in spy bot thingy that spanks you if you open 2 clients?

    I would assume so, since doing so would allow you to open 2 clients simultaneously, thus going against the ToS. Multi-clienting is prohibited, and is a bannable offense.
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    I would assume so, since doing so would allow you to open 2 clients simultaneously, thus going against the ToS. Multi-clienting is prohibited, and is a bannable offense.

    Hidding from the spy-bot, however, is not.
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  • Spirit_Age - Raging Tide
    Spirit_Age - Raging Tide Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You are modifying the game files. That's not allowed. The freaking end.

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  • Bellarie - Raging Tide
    Bellarie - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    I would assume so, since doing so would allow you to open 2 clients simultaneously, thus going against the ToS. Multi-clienting is prohibited, and is a bannable offense.

    Yet the majority of catshops in this game are multicliented accounts. Also, multiclienting as a good number of other "bannable offenses" are perfectly allowed in PW-CN and other versions of the game. Why PWI has to specifically make all kinds of harmless things bannable is beyond me.

    It just goes to further my point: Devs are not the problem, GMs and Mods are not the problem, it's whoever runs PWI that is the problem.
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  • sangodoc
    sangodoc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Bellarie - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Yet the majority of catshops in this game are multicliented accounts.
    And you know this... how?

    All the people I know who frequently catshop either switch to the catshop when they're not playing or have a second (usually older) computer that they use for their catshop account.
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  • Naivety - Harshlands
    Naivety - Harshlands Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Sangodoc wrote: »
    And you know this... how?

    All the people I know who frequently catshop either switch to the catshop when they're not playing or have a second (usually older) computer that they use for their catshop account.

    And everyone ive talked to via vent or real life has another account on a minimised-to-tray client on the same PC.

    ---Since the IP address PW sees is the same by either method, theyl never be able to tell the difference unless they put in some rather abusive and invasive identification programming b:bye

    And noone cares anyway. Minimised client vs one on another PC...... Green planet anyone?

    ---Oh and... I could run another client on a virtual machine. Youd not be able to tell JACK from that, no matter what method you used.
  • Tearle - Dreamweaver
    Tearle - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Sangodoc wrote: »
    And you know this... how?


    There's people on Worldchat late at night or on weekends (when gm's are in bed or off work)
    That have offered to give away multi-client programs to use for your shops.

    Not all the catshop's owners have another comp or if they do, want to waste it on a shop if they could be healing/tanking with two chars on two comps.

    You can fly around the map on dreamweaver and find more than one bot too. Most people don't report those things unless it directly affects them.

    Now a lot of people avoid that because we don't wanna get ban-hammered, but it DOES happen and most likely will keep happening.
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  • X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,301 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    WTS training for playing hide and seek with the pwi spy bot b:chuckle

    GM's are super good about cracking down on botting when they find out, it's 1 of things they do best. Where did I read that rubberbanding is something which is used to combat speed hacks? I remember when an enemy cata all alone beat us to the 1/2 way point on C path at the start of a TW, while we were on mounts.
  • PetalBlue - Sanctuary
    PetalBlue - Sanctuary Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Agreed, i've seen many botting, but unless it effects me i wont report it, i personally think the cat shop idea is ****, way to laggy for us European players, you could atleast do what some other games do and make it so each server had like 4 layers to it "cant think of correct term" and u could switch to a less populated one, less lag.

    But yeah i play world of ********, and addons make it more fun to play, damage metres, Interface mods, if anything makes the players happy and less work for the gms and game designers, PWI interface is the worst i've seen, how long it been out 3 years, 4? taken till genesis to actually spice up the interface, and dont get me started on the quest system, *stops before my head explodes" i love perfect world, but it could be alot better with very little effort.
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