is it acceptable

neraius
neraius Posts: 0 Arc User
edited January 2011 in Blademaster
to be a pure axe bm? I have noticed that alot of people are looking for fist/claw bms for their aps. Will I still be able to join squads if i am just axe bm or are people going to want me to be a fist bm or pass me up for a fist bm?
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  • starith
    starith Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    neraius wrote: »
    to be a pure axe bm? I have noticed that alot of people are looking for fist/claw bms for their aps. Will I still be able to join squads if i am just axe bm or are people going to want me to be a fist bm or pass me up for a fist bm?


    Basicaly the squads need your Axe HF and Demon Spark using Firsts to DD. If you know how to play I'm sure you'll be wanted regardless your weapon (at least use HF) but the "HyperXP NewGeneration" probably will kick you.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Depends what the squad is doing. If Bh51, you'll be fine. If Delta, you'll be fine. If FCC or Nirvana, they may pass you up for a real DDer.

    Some will take you to use as an HF grunt, but they can just as easily find a fist bm to switch to axes, HF, then continue to DD. They know he'll build sparks quicker and do a better job as an axe bm than a real axe bm, unfortunately.

    As an axe only user you will be doing a fraction of damage that anyone else is. Put it this way, if you went on a TT run and someone didn't help half the time would you want them to take an equal share of the split? If you are brought as a DDer people expect you to DD on par with the rest of the squad, which you won't be, instead you will be DDing only half of what everyone else is and expect an equal split. You will be useful as a HF grunt so some people will take you willingly, others wont. Its up to their generosity towards your axe only handicap.

    I am thinking of some random squads I've joined that were just... *shudders*. That's the type of squad that will take you. Good squads will look for good DDers that have what they expect, and you won't meet that criteria so you'll be forced to go with worse squads more often.
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Before 85-90, your damage won't matter as long as you just have decent equips. After that, getting a FCC squad should still be easy before 95 and I don't think I ever saw a 90+ TT squad asking for people's aps. Nirvana at 100+ is a completely different story as there your damage is everything for most squads.

    I personally have never gotten kicked out of a FCC run even with my 1.43 aps (lol...) but I also haven't tried joining a squad that asks me to specify my aps before getting the invite. I know plenty of axe BMs from my faction who have successfully leveled to 100 without having problems getting a FCC squad. If it's different on your server, just make your squads but please, do not ask for their aps if you aren't a high aps char yourself... That's not exactly nice if you are a bad DD and you demand others to be good ones in your squad.
    100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Depends what the squad is doing. If Bh51, you'll be fine. If Delta, you'll be fine. If FCC or Nirvana, they may pass you up for a real DDer.

    Some will take you to use as an HF grunt, but they can just as easily find a fist bm to switch to axes, HF, then continue to DD. They know he'll build sparks quicker and do a better job as an axe bm than a real axe bm, unfortunately.

    As an axe only user you will be doing a fraction of damage that anyone else is. Put it this way, if you went on a TT run and someone didn't help half the time would you want them to take an equal share of the split? If you are brought as a DDer people expect you to DD on par with the rest of the squad, which you won't be, instead you will be DDing only half of what everyone else is and expect an equal split. You will be useful as a HF grunt so some people will take you willingly, others wont. Its up to their generosity towards your axe only handicap.

    I am thinking of some random squads I've joined that were just... *shudders*. That's the type of squad that will take you. Good squads will look for good DDers that have what they expect, and you won't meet that criteria so you'll be forced to go with worse squads more often.

    this is true yesterday a fellow bm got kicked from my fc squad cause they saw i was trip sparking and still built up enough chi to DG while spark was on so they replaced him with a sin
  • Nael - Dreamweaver
    Nael - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Problem with pure vit Axe BM is that you won't be able to hold aggro from anything and all that vit goes to waste. Vit Axe BMs used to be sort of crowd control besides a standard HF monkey until Assassins came and made it unbelievably easy for even no vit BMs to tank ungodly amount of mobs at the same time (in fact, the more the better).

    Pretty much the only instances where pure vits are anywhere desirable are the Rebirth instances where you'll be trying to draw aggro towards you along with the Barb (Alpha Male).

    I can only tell you to keep a pair of fists to be considered a decent BM, but if pure vit Axe BM is your pride thing then I wish all the luck to you.
  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    You'll have no problem getting into any BH squad below 100. You'll be fine for delta. Any TT from 1-1 up to 2-2 you should have no trouble. Faction tend to be accepting enough and will bring you along on anything if they're a nice group.

    FCC, you can fill the BM spot without any issue, regardless of level. I've never been kicked from a FCC as a pure vit Axe for replying to a "need BM for FCC". I used to be there to aoe and supply the HF's/Stuns. However... past lv95+ don't apply for the DD spot if the group already has a BM ...ever, because an Axe BM simply isn't a DD. And people tend to be annoyed if they're expecting good damage and you're hacking away at 0.83 /sec rarely able to even manage a spark. Also you wont ever be needed to tank, because you can't. Unless you out-level everyone by a silly amount.

    Best advice is use your axes as much as you like, but also go demon, and keep your dex high enough for fists. Because you really will regret it otherwise.

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