Does anyone still run TT anymore
Anri_Rose - Archosaur
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So I was bored, when i seen on WC a call for TT 1-2 , which Ive been needing to go do anyway. Well point isnt did we go , or how far we got. Its that each of us spoke about how hard it seemed to be to get anyone to go on a TT run nowadays. Truth be told it was the first for my lvl i had seen in some time myself.
Now i understand TT is costly and sometimes ends badly for many of those that attempt it.
But my real concern is that , just no one is doing it now, its like most folks have totally given up trying to run any TT, short of those high lvl 3-x runs i see from time to time.
Is it really that more cost effective to just buy the mats in AH. I really hate that idea, i mean sure i will buy some mats in the AH, but there is the feeling of actually going out and doing a run yourself that feels good.
Ok so
TL DR,
TT runs are hard to come by, why dont ppl do them anymore. Beside the obvious reasons
Now i understand TT is costly and sometimes ends badly for many of those that attempt it.
But my real concern is that , just no one is doing it now, its like most folks have totally given up trying to run any TT, short of those high lvl 3-x runs i see from time to time.
Is it really that more cost effective to just buy the mats in AH. I really hate that idea, i mean sure i will buy some mats in the AH, but there is the feeling of actually going out and doing a run yourself that feels good.
Ok so
TL DR,
TT runs are hard to come by, why dont ppl do them anymore. Beside the obvious reasons
Where have all the mages gone. Long time casting.
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Anri_Rose - Archosaur wrote: »So I was bored, when i seen on WC a call for TT 1-2 , which Ive been needing to go do anyway. Well point isnt did we go , or how far we got. Its that each of us spoke about how hard it seemed to be to get anyone to go on a TT run nowadays. Truth be told it was the first for my lvl i had seen in some time myself.
Now i understand TT is costly and sometimes ends badly for many of those that attempt it.
But my real concern is that , just no one is doing it now, its like most folks have totally given up trying to run any TT, short of those high lvl 3-x runs i see from time to time.
Is it really that more cost effective to just buy the mats in AH. I really hate that idea, i mean sure i will buy some mats in the AH, but there is the feeling of actually going out and doing a run yourself that feels good.
Ok so
TL DR,
TT runs are hard to come by, why dont ppl do them anymore. Beside the obvious reasons
is ****ing boring.0 -
I have no idea what you are talking about. I never have any problem getting TT runs together, and I see a lot of people calling to make ones other than 3-x in WC.0
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cos everyone who runs decent tts go privately with close friends, too many random nabs with low output who cant be trusted in my experience. b:bye★Immunity is an Arch Server TW Faction. If you want to join Apply @ immunity.shivtr.com★ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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@OP
You beat me to it. I was going to make a thread with the same title to comment on the state of an endangered species: the-non-cash-shopper.
I too was curious (and concerned) about the state of TT runs. My main character is in a large 200 member faction with a lot of high levels, yet no one ever seems to do, or have any interest in doing, TT anymore. It seems that most of the people left playing are all cash shoppers who simply buy what they need, especially now with the increased pressure to have rank gear or better in order to be a "factor" in this game.
I see venos still soloing TT but finding a faction or a group of people to do regular, organized TT runs is becoming increasingly difficult to find. Before someone chirps in with, "I have no problems finding a squad blah blah blah", I am not saying that it has become impossible, only that the dynamics of the game and, more importantly, the composition of the community seems to have changed quite significantly once again to the detriment of those of us who want or need to run TT b:surrender0 -
This isnt a PvE server.
Nor a PvP server.
Its a PvCS server.
Was running a FC with several 'seasoned' veterans of PWI, almost all of us started on Sanctuary. We were all discussing how disturbing it is that this server is nothing but lazy a$$ed cashshoppers who think that roflstomping on TW and jeering at each other on who has the best CS gear is the only way to play the game.
And because so many people long to 'fit in' or 'be a factor' in TW (which is a joke atm with this game), they are quick to follow the leader.
I have yet to see a major, 200 person faction that focuses on PvE and doesnt focus on TW in the least bit.
I know Im talking to a brick wall. Just my own thoughts.0 -
I really don't know what you are talking about. There's a lot of TT and Lunar runs going on. NOt many NIrvanas yet, but it's getting there.
I farmed alll my gear.. tt90, then tt99 and now nirvana.... it's possible to do and I'm helping my guildies with them when they need it0 -
AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »I really don't know what you are talking about. There's a lot of TT and Lunar runs going on. NOt many NIrvanas yet, but it's getting there.
I farmed alll my gear.. tt90, then tt99 and now nirvana.... it's possible to do and I'm helping my guildies with them when they need it
Typical. You cannot see beyond your own walls. Perhaps you have built them too high? Hard to believe, considering the tower you stand on reaches the sky.0 -
Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »Typical. You cannot see beyond your own walls. Perhaps you have built them too high? Hard to believe, considering the tower you stand on reaches the sky.
walls? ohhh.. you think i don't help ppl outside of Nemesis? You make me laugh.
You can go ask ppl in Elusive, Perversia, Texas... even ppl in small factions that I've never met.
But hey... what can be expected from you, right?
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AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »walls? ohhh.. you think i don't help ppl outside of Nemesis? You make me laugh.
You can go ask ppl in Elusive, Perversia, Texas... even ppl in small factions that I've never met.
But hey... what can be expected from you, right?
b:bye
Where did I say you don't 'help' people? I dont recall I said anything about that at all.....
I just simply stated that you obviously do not see the lack of TT runs throughout the server because everything is fine in Camp Nemesis. Which is fine for you guys. But outside of those walls, its a very common problem. Just because you do not see it, does not mean it doesn't exist.
Heck, it was even a major problem when Narla v 1.0 was around. I will be the first to admit that I was selfish in the fact that I wanted my own faction to benefit, and cared less about anyone else's faction on this server.
When it comes down to this particular problem, it falls on the shoulders of the leaders of factions, both big and small, non-TW and TW alike. Incompetence is usually a plague when it comes to leadership in MMO's, and that is what hinders a persons gaming experience.
In the future, try to understand what someone is saying before spouting off.0 -
I R TIRED OF HALPING PPLs with TTs
all they do is forget it and want the next thing 5 minutes later, unapreciative mother******* b:cute★Immunity is an Arch Server TW Faction. If you want to join Apply @ immunity.shivtr.com★ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »Where did I say you don't 'help' people? I dont recall I said anything about that at all.....
I just simply stated that you obviously do not see the lack of TT runs throughout the server because everything is fine in Camp Nemesis. Which is fine for you guys. But outside of those walls, its a very common problem. Just because you do not see it, does not mean it doesn't exist.
Heck, it was even a major problem when Narla v 1.0 was around. I will be the first to admit that I was selfish in the fact that I wanted my own faction to benefit, and cared less about anyone else's faction on this server.
When it comes down to this particular problem, it falls on the shoulders of the leaders of factions, both big and small, non-TW and TW alike. Incompetence is usually a plague when it comes to leadership in MMO's, and that is what hinders a persons gaming experience.
In the future, try to understand what someone is saying before spouting off.
I know a good post when I see one, your on the ball there. I know I have been gone for a while, but I have been here for almost 3 weeks and it is safe to say, TT is by far non-existent. I have char's in two large guilds spanning all levels from 60-102 and the amount of times I saw a TT request being answer was probably none.
I remember making so much money off of TT, all of the gear I have was about 3 weeks of intense TT farming. Thats about all the effort I put into this server after doing FC's which are a joke anyway. All the people that buy mats for lots of cash already got their gear =(
Perhaps I am simply not active enough to know TT is alive, ah who knows. Just wanted to say this was a good post. b:bye(anonymous) "If pwi brings out rank sale again, I will def increase my spending limit." Marketing, learn it, master it, and after that stop complaining about it.0 -
There are lots of peoples who do TT on a regular basis. I myself farm TT everyday but its true that there are lot of peoples who just buy the mats from AH rather than running instances themselves. Well i thank all of them, because of those peoples i have farmed all my gears b:victory
And regarding PVE, Nemesis is a faction focussion equally on PVE and PVP, alongwith dominating the TW map we are also running High level instances like nirvana warsong and killing World bosses on a quite frequent basis.
We are running TT's and FC's on a daily basis to help everyone lvlup and gearup.
Many peoples believe that peoples in our faction only benefit from this, but thats not the reality each and every member in nemesis tries to help out everyone, but peoples in our faction are given more priority than the peoples outisde nemesis and I think its 100% logical.
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Anri_Rose - Archosaur wrote: »So I was bored, when i seen on WC a call for TT 1-2 , which Ive been needing to go do anyway. Well point isnt did we go , or how far we got. Its that each of us spoke about how hard it seemed to be to get anyone to go on a TT run nowadays. Truth be told it was the first for my lvl i had seen in some time myself.
Now i understand TT is costly and sometimes ends badly for many of those that attempt it.
But my real concern is that , just no one is doing it now, its like most folks have totally given up trying to run any TT, short of those high lvl 3-x runs i see from time to time.
Is it really that more cost effective to just buy the mats in AH. I really hate that idea, i mean sure i will buy some mats in the AH, but there is the feeling of actually going out and doing a run yourself that feels good.
Ok so
TL DR,
TT runs are hard to come by, why dont ppl do them anymore. Beside the obvious reasons
well ... hope i will not hurt any1 feelings becouse is not my intention.
as far as i know ppl dont farm 1-x anymore becouse they intend to hit 80-90 pretty fast so there is no reason for them to spend time and money on gear up at lv 70 ( no offence ). more then that tt90 gear dose not require to decompose the tt80 ... so 1 more reason not to try get tt70 ... and then tt 80 .........
i know this sounds unfair ... but all you can do is ether qq about it or ... adapt ...
... my personal advice ... do your best to hit 90 asap ...becouse ppl ether they will need the tt 90 for themself or they will need the tt runs for quests :P0 -
Im sorry if its ok i would like to take time to answer multiple things that you all brought up so for the next few moments ill be reading over the things said and taking on each of them as i go thru here. But Id like to say thank you in advance as you all really took the time to really listen to and respond really nicely here in this thread, something that I dont get to see enough of here on arch. So with that said , ill begin and make some edits as i go thru and write my thoughts now . b:thanks
MY FINAL THOUGHTS
Wow rereading all that again , really made me get some good insight into our servers standing. I think on the first page the most telling thing was what RionHale said, that pretty much anyone who runs TT does so in private groups. This is the first problem facing the masses who want to run TT, and can actually help point out alot of the points Im coming to so far.
POINT ONE: ORGANIZATION , TT is not just like the other instances, its harder, way harder for those who are actually of the level it was intended for. And if you go in with a group of folks who dont understand their roles and how to work as a team , you most likely end up with very little to no gains on a run.
POINT TWO: CONNECTIONS, who you know is as important as anything, even in a game like this. If you know the people to call who can run a TT well and easily , it helps alot. This is most easy to see when you observe the way well run factions are able to farm TT with alot more ease then your average joe random squad. The reason why is simple, they are far more likely to have with them one or more players who have the skill and experience to make any TT run alot safer for the party going in.
POINT THREE: LOGISTICS, I was almost gonna call this preparations but then i thought its more then just prep work that goes into a TT run, You need time and supplies, not to mention you have to take into account the cost your going to incur if and when things dont go exactly by the book. This I think is the keystone to why large well organized teams from factions or close nit groups do better. They work together to split the drain that would normally be what falters a group of randoms. In the end those players often work as a unit to get all they need for everyoen involved, usually splitting the load of US cost, mats and pots im sure. In the end I think this will be the key for those who want to gather TT mats in the future.
Those are the three basic things that are coming to my mind right off the bat here tonight, I think Ill stop before i write anymore and see if anyone wants to post now, I have an idea how to bring all of this together to help things here but im still wording it in my mind.
Please continue discussing , im really happy right now taht so many of us are really taking a real interest in this topic , that alone may mean we can save our server guys .Where have all the mages gone. Long time casting.
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DizasterX - Archosaur wrote: »JabberJabberJabber
Please do not derail this thread by using it as a soapbox for Nemesis recruiting. Thanks.0 -
Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »Please do not derail this thread by using it as a soapbox for Nemesis recruiting. Thanks.
Another nem hater b:dirty
P.S. To everyone else here who does not buy TT mats from AH is not able to get TT squads for their gears.
Join us feel the difference,
If ur underlevel for joining us...
Giveme a PM ingame, I will try to help as much i can with ur TT's b:thanks0 -
DizasterX - Archosaur wrote: »There are lots of peoples who do TT on a regular basis. I myself am super farm boyb:victory
Yawn
You all miss so much, so let me illuminate - TT is dead for the following reasons:
1. Yes, this is a cash shop server first and foremost - small population with many that came here from other servers specifically because TW was dominated on their home servers by an arrogant, cloistered group of cash shoppers that reduced TW to a 20 minute masturbatory session for +12 fish whose lives are so empty that owning the map makes them feel good about themselves. I just made a poster that says I am a sexy sexy sexy op wiz loved by all and hung it over my bed. Works just as well. Ya'll should try it.
But I digress. Those people that came to this server for that reason had little appetite to level and gear up another end game toon the old fashioned way, and indeed there were so many people dumping cash to get to lvl 100 the first weeks of this server that if you wanted to TW (which we have already established was the primary reason for many of them coming here), you had no choice but to follow in their footsteps. That leaves little time for TT.
2. With hyper stones being so cheap now, people get to 100 in the blink of an eye compared with how it used to be. I really don't see the point in farming tt70 gear when if I just use npc/legendary gear and hypers, I can be lvl 90 in the same time it would take me to farm the TT70 set.
The person that has been putting their TT70 HA set in the auction house for 10m each piece for almost a month now? Please take note. I got a full set of 2 socket tt90 HA for 9.9m.
3. With the rep sale, nearly everyone (especially fish who get a full set) are just as happy with rank 8 gear as they would be with tt99. And its much easier to get, and much easier (usually, don't ask me about my luck on sanctuary) to 4 socket.
4. With the rep sale, there is a fair amount (certainly much more than used to be present on this server) of used TT gear on the market since so many are replacing pieces of their old TT gear with R8/R9.
5. With the advent of 5 aps and the changes to TT, wizards, psychics and venos really need not apply for TT or Nirvana runs. Are there exceptions? Of course, but this is the general rule.
6. TT is DULL.
7. TT takes too long to get a squad.
8. Even if you are even able to find one it takes too long to run the instance.
9. Its all the way on the other end of the map.
10. There are too many mats to keep track of.
11. There are too many chances someone will steal your mats.
12. There are too many classes that don't want to wait for second pick behind barb and cleric.
13. There is too much incentive to wait and do your TT runs during double drops.
14. It induces claustrophobia.
15. Aries farts too much in TT and it smells bad in there."And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."0 -
BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »15. Aries farts too much in TT and it smells bad in there.
This for sure has made my day
XD haha b:chuckle0 -
DizasterX - Archosaur wrote: »dominating the TW map
higher you go the harder you fall, friend b:chuckle0 -
I got an ancient devil soul on ae today ._.
any lazy csers buying a pair of gx? >_>?
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You are the farter old man.. not me
and how would you know how TT smells like.. you've never been there b:laugh
But the mat distribution IS a major problem in TT. That's why ppl go with friends.. cause DD's get screwed over with the mats over greedy barbs and clerics.
That's why i run TT for my friends, cause i can tank most of 3-1 with a 10k cost.0 -
No its because your just a sweetheart Aries b:cute0
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