Endgame Questions

Sigiiliao - Dreamweaver
Sigiiliao - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
edited January 2011 in Blademaster


Well, I'm thinking about play as a BM (I really can't choose a class, I just studied all of them).

Recently I just see BMs doing Axe AoE until 9x (90~99) and then restat to First/Axe, get the 5.0aps and well... You know. That isn't my gameplay like, and I can't think on another way to 'endgame' my BM.

Questions :

1. Restat to First/Axe at endgame is the only way to be a nice BM(PvP; TW; PK; PvE [...]) ? It just doesn't fits at my gameplay. To be honest I prefer something like Axes with dexterity (Not the 272 str; 200 dex; 38 con; gg).

2. I keep doing my endgame set at the PwCalc but even with Nirvana set I can't get enough mDef. There's someone who can show me a nice final set, to see how It looks like; compare; etc. I really appreciate if someone do this for me.


For now -I hope be back soon enough- this is it. I'll be glad if someone helps me. Sorry any english mistake, I don't pratice It so much.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=c4f0a557241b68cb

    Last calculations I saw of that build was around 1.3 bil but except for the weapon, shards, and refines it considered endgame. It's known as the hybrid build because 2 pieces of the TT99 LA set are used for the -int set bonus. Many pvp BMs drop the 2 pieces of LA for defensive pieces, use magic marrowing instead, and attack at 3.33.

    BM is a good choice as a class to start with. Great damage, versatile (many ways to play), and survivable. I would suggest using fists (and pole and sword) from level 1 by statting 3 str/2dex. Aoeing with axes is useful but attacking 1 on 1 is very slow and mana costly with axes and much better with fists. Then you won't need a restat end game.
    Seven 100+ characters leveled the hard way. Free to play. Mystic, Psychic, and Wizard left to level. b:victory
  • starith
    starith Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=c4f0a557241b68cb

    Last calculations I saw of that build was around 1.3 bil but except for the weapon, shards, and refines it considered endgame. It's known as the hybrid build because 2 pieces of the TT99 LA set are used for the -int set bonus. Many pvp BMs drop the 2 pieces of LA for defensive pieces, use magic marrowing instead, and attack at 3.33.

    BM is a good choice as a class to start with. Great damage, versatile (many ways to play), and survivable. I would suggest using fists (and pole and sword) from level 1 by statting 3 str/2dex. Aoeing with axes is useful but attacking 1 on 1 is very slow and mana costly with axes and much better with fists. Then you won't need a restat end game.

    At first place, thank you for posting.

    It's what I said at the first post. I don't like (It isn't my gameplay) use Firsts, get 5.0aps (-int gears). I want to know if I can be successfully at endgame without use the 3 str/2dex (First/Axe build)... Just use Axes, Spears and Swords (not so sure).

    About the PwCalc, There's not so much mDef, also HP. I'm wanting to avoid that, and the -int gear...

    Thank you for the help. Sorry any english mistakes again ^^.
  • I_sage_i - Harshlands
    I_sage_i - Harshlands Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    starith wrote: »
    At first place, thank you for posting.

    It's what I said at the first post. I don't like (It isn't my gameplay) use Firsts, get 5.0aps (-int gears). I want to know if I can be successfully at endgame without use the 3 str/2dex (First/Axe build)... Just use Axes, Spears and Swords (not so sure).

    About the PwCalc, There's not so much mDef, also HP. I'm wanting to avoid that, and the -int gear...

    Thank you for the help. Sorry any english mistakes again ^^.

    he didnt shard it which is why the mdef and hp is so low and he gave it only +5 refines
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    you can be successful without fists, but people choose to use fists simply because it's the fastest option for grinding.

    If you want to concentrate on doing TW, axes are excelent because of the aoe's.

    Axes are also pretty good in Pk, because they make it possible to stun lock.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    The reason I mentioned the 3/2 build is even if you chose not to use fists as your endgame, 3 str and 2 dex pretty much maximizes your damage output. If you chose to use axes I'd recommend 3-3.5 str and 1-2 dex. If you chose to use swords I'd recommend 3 str-1.5-2dex. In addition to that it allows you to use all weapons IF YOU CHOSE. You can equip fists, or not. Different situations call for different tools and weapons and thats what makes a BM fun: Chaining combos together for the best survivability and damage.

    As for mdef options, you will have magic marrow to quickly add mdef. Sharding Saphires is a valid option. Alot of endgame BMs use 2 pieces LA armor because both the LA and the HA TT99 set bonus give -.05 int., so equiping 2 pieces of each gives 2 x -.05 int. Many BMs have their main necklace and belt, and then also carry a magic necklace and a magic belt, since refining belts and rings give magic defense. I also like the option of Seal of Eternal Solitude ring, as endgame since it refines magic. I even know some BMs that carry a second set of LA plate and thighs when tanking a magic boss.


    And then, to drive home the point of why fists get better and better endgame, and why people use them I thought I'd calculate max attack speeds for different weapons. End game BMs can have a max of -.45 int and a 25% spark speed increase.

    weapon
    -.45 int ---- Sparked
    .83 axes base
    1.33
    1.82
    .91 axes base
    1.54
    2.0
    .1 polearm base --- 1.82
    2.5
    1.11 swords base -- 2.22 --- 2.86
    1.43 fists base
    4.0
    5.0

    ... That last part was mostly because I was curious and felt like calculating it b:bye
    Seven 100+ characters leveled the hard way. Free to play. Mystic, Psychic, and Wizard left to level. b:victory
  • Zolex - Lost City
    Zolex - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    This was a very good explaining Suk b:victory
  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    lololol... another, another and another endgame question. After 2 years of figuring out what's the one and only one endgame ever exists, I've come up with my ultimate answer: "U, yes U, have to become a perfectworld game developer, not just a GM." Trust me this is the truth. lol
  • starith
    starith Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    oyamajio wrote: »
    lololol... another, another and another endgame question. After 2 years of figuring out what's the one and only one endgame ever exists, I've come up with my ultimate answer: "U, yes U, have to become a perfectworld game developer, not just a GM." Trust me this is the truth. lol

    - meh iz a haxx


    @Sakubatou

    Thank you for the explanation (and everyone else too). I know using the 3/2 can maximize my damage outp. but I just can't think about end my BM using spear to Farstrike, Axe to stunlock (and HF) then First - Spark to damage...


    About the set...
    I was thinking about end up with full Nirvana, and kick off the -int gear. Regardless the PwCalc, It's gonna work ?... I mean, survive R9 Wizzies (and Archers ?)...

    I see some Gattun videos (Japanese PW maybe... or Chinese... I don't know.) and He does the samething, swithing the sets all the time and solo'ing PK (almost TW) groups, and mobs too. So more or less I knew this... But thank you.
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    starith wrote: »
    - meh iz a haxx


    @Sakubatou

    Thank you for the explanation (and everyone else too). I know using the 3/2 can maximize my damage outp. but I just can't think about end my BM using spear to Farstrike, Axe to stunlock (and HF) then First - Spark to damage...


    About the set...
    I was thinking about end up with full Nirvana, and kick off the -int gear. Regardless the PwCalc, It's gonna work ?... I mean, survive R9 Wizzies (and Archers ?)...

    I see some Gattun videos (Japanese PW maybe... or Chinese... I don't know.) and He does the samething, swithing the sets all the time and solo'ing PK (almost TW) groups, and mobs too. So more or less I knew this... But thank you.

    at 100+ sadly lunar pole+far < g 15/16 axes with smack

    no vana is not worth it wait for a rep sale and go full rank 9 if your dumping int gear
    Gifs are hard to make work here

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