If we get the DQ nerf, TT nerf, mirages for TW reward from china

WraithTanker - Sanctuary
WraithTanker - Sanctuary Posts: 344 Arc User
edited January 2011 in General Discussion
Why didnt we get the cross server pk thing they had on PW-China when the World Cup was going in last year?
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    *awaits answers*
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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    cross server Pk o.Oa
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  • WraithTanker - Sanctuary
    WraithTanker - Sanctuary Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    cross server Pk o.Oa


    Yes during the World Cup PW Chiina held a competition had like the best pkers on each of the China servers


    Also if I am not mistaken you was able to watch this cross pk competition..


    This HAS to be in the files here since we do get the same patches from China.....


    EDIT:

    Knownase: Doubt I will get a answer. Seems to me I get ignored when I ask questions. From Frankie at least (waiting 2 weeks for answer on a PM where people say he answers theirs in 2-3 days at least, 5 days at most)
  • Proclivity - Archosaur
    Proclivity - Archosaur Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Why didnt we get the cross server pk thing they had on PW-China when the World Cup was going in last year?

    we dont get these from the China version by force, PWI has the choice of implementing these updates here, they just use the excuse that PW-CN did it so they do it to hide the fact its all power play for sales.

    On topic GM's have said before cross server anything isnt possible, alot of people were expecting server merges and they said its impossible, so cross server fights would be under the same catagory. b:surrender
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  • WraithTanker - Sanctuary
    WraithTanker - Sanctuary Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    we dont get these from the China version by force, PWI has the choice of implementing these updates here, they just use the excuse that PW-CN did it so they do it to hide the fact its all power play for sales.

    On topic GM's have said before cross server anything isnt possible, alot of people were expecting server merges and they said its impossible, so cross server fights would be under the same catagory. b:surrender

    If we dont. Then Why did they agree to Nerf TT, DQ, and TW pay?

    If they dont HAVE to accept the patches... why **** off the people that play and pay your game b:surrender

    I dont get it


    Also China was able to do cross server.....Doubt the Chinese/USA servers are really any different
  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    If we dont. Then Why did they agree to Nerf TT, DQ, and TW pay?

    because TT mats raised in price, people charged zen to sell stuff for money to buy mats, or the farmers couldent make as much cash which = profit for PW, also people making money from DQ and people getting lots of cash from TW = less profit for PW...go figure.
    If they dont HAVE to accept the patches... why **** off the people that play and pay your game b:surrender

    I dont get it

    cos they got so many players that they dont care about the players, just as long as they make as much money possible, thought that was generally obvious.
    Also China was able to do cross server.....Doubt the Chinese/USA servers are really any different

    They say it's not possible, but they dont have the first clue, there not the game Devs, im betting these GMs dont even know how to use Maya, end of the day, all these GMs do is tell us what *they know*, and the behind the scenes sales managers do everything, the GMs simply shove it in, monitor the forums, and make the odd rare event while making sure there servers are stable, not that it takes much work anyway....which gets me thinking, what really do the GMs do in there office all day?
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  • Tamias - Archosaur
    Tamias - Archosaur Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited January 2011

    ...

    They say it's not possible, but they dont have the first clue, there not the game Devs, im betting these GMs dont even know how to use Maya, end of the day, all these GMs do is tell us what *they know*, and the behind the scenes sales managers do everything, the GMs simply shove it in, monitor the forums, and make the odd rare event while making sure there servers are stable, not that it takes much work anyway....which gets me thinking, what really do the GMs do in there office all day?

    It would definately not be a required skill set seeing as how most of our graphics come from China, it would be redundant of them to learn things like Maya, Zbrush, Max or anything on the articstic end. As for programming, they probably know just enough to not **** up the other thousands and thousands of lines of codding whenever they go in and put in things like events, new fash, "minor localizations" etc. As in they're probably told "Okay insert this here between this" and they probably just plug it in and test it, hopefully awake to make sure it works properly before servers come up.That and I'm sure they have enough admin permissions to do various things to change pieces of code, such as spawning coin, items, and appearing in individual instances to monitor certain players- b:shutup

    I think I said too much QQ


    I wonder how much liberties PWi as a company is allowed to take for this version.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Now here's an interesting thread, I think I'll stick around until we get an answer or die of old age b:avoid
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    PWE only implements the patches that're in no way helpful to the community. :(
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  • Das_Racher - Archosaur
    Das_Racher - Archosaur Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    why does this game have to suck?
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  • Evanera - Heavens Tear
    Evanera - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,423 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Oh, let's see how long it takes GM's to cook up a lie and paste it here and try to fool us :)
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    why does this game have to suck?

    Tbh it doesnt. Ignorance is bliss yo.

    and it took you 80 levels to decide you didnt like the game?
  • Das_Racher - Archosaur
    Das_Racher - Archosaur Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Tbh it doesnt. Ignorance is bliss yo.

    and it took you 80 levels to decide you didnt like the game?

    tbh the only reason i play this game is because of the friends i have that play it.
    True, but I'm not ignorant. Thus, no bliss. This game could be much better, but instead its a Pay to Win piece of Made in China ****.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    its a Pay to Win piece of Made in China ****.

    Sure you can think that. I once thought that. I once QQ'd how the game was free to play, pay to win.

    But then I thought about it, and the conclussion I reached was this;
    Even if the game was free to play, without any form of gold: I wouldn't have the patience or willpower to "win" as so many put it.

    I mean just ask yourself, have you put hundreds of hours into the game to be able to say, "that darn cash shop, always making them rich kids stronger than me?"
    Some have, and they have the right to QQ.

    But you? At level 80? You still don't know what 90% of the game is like. You really don't have the right to complain about cashoppers because they don't become an issue till 90+ when people start getting endgame gear.

    So if you don't like the game, give a real reason. If you're simply bored of it, say that. But complaining that the game is "pay to win," when you're level 80, is just an excuse.
  • WraithTanker - Sanctuary
    WraithTanker - Sanctuary Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Please stop de railing this thread. I want a answer, and de-railing this thread would give the mods even more reason to lock this b:surrender
  • Man - Raging Tide
    Man - Raging Tide Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    YO sins can no longer triple spark in stealth!

    Now that is a victory b:victory
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  • Woneo - Harshlands
    Woneo - Harshlands Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Wtb> cross server tw. Impossible is nothing!...
    I just wanna trash the carebeAre ep's
  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Well for cross server pking, I would imagine that you have to physically move the players' files across servers or somehow link two servers together o_O.

    Our GMs might just have no idea how to do that.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Well for cross server pking, I would imagine that you have to physically move the players' files across servers or somehow link two servers together o_O.

    Our GMs might just have no idea how to do that.

    This might be easier considering the sheer size of the two areas on the map.

    Physically moving files from east coast servers to west coast servers could be a hassle and risky.
    It'd be easier in China, where although the country is large, it's population isn't distributed as much because everyone lives close to the south/east coasts, so physically moving a file might be easier.

    But tbh i have no idea what I'm talking about and cant imagine a file being hard to move anyways b:cute
  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    This might be easier considering the sheer size of the two areas on the map.

    Physically moving files from east coast servers to west coast servers could be a hassle and risky.
    It'd be easier in China, where although the country is large, it's population isn't distributed as much because everyone lives close to the south/east coasts, so physically moving a file might be easier.

    But tbh i have no idea what I'm talking about and cant imagine a file being hard to move anyways b:cute

    I guess it depends if servers have USB ports XD

    Edit: It just occured to me, I doubt there are even ANY GMs at the location of the East Coast servers, probably just maintenance staff.

    So the reason why they can't move the files could be because they don't want to drive across the country to do so.
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  • Iulius - Heavens Tear
    Iulius - Heavens Tear Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    i predict this thread will never have an answer from a GMb:thanks
  • ZeroDefects - Dreamweaver
    ZeroDefects - Dreamweaver Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Ask yourselves a couple of questions..

    As far as I know China maintains a single time zone, so they have no requirement to have different servers set to run events at different times. So are all the chinese servers located in the same building in Bejing? Are they simply "virtual" servers on a single server farm which all share a single database? If that is the case then doing things like cross server battles would be much easier to coordinate and run, as you have no server to server lag issues to contend with.

    PWE on the other hand have servers located at opposite sides of the USA, set to different timezones, only some of which share a database.

    While a cross server event would be fun, I can see why it would be difficult to the point of being unpractical on this version.
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    event =/= game mechanics
  • Hl/ - Harshlands6
    Hl/ - Harshlands6 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    YO sins can no longer triple spark in stealth!

    Now that is a victory b:victory

    Amen!

    But in all seriousness, I think a PK Server War would stop complaining for a while...It might even be fun, hell....that IS what this game is for, right? [/sarcasm]
  • WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Well for cross server pking, I would imagine that you have to physically move the players' files across servers or somehow link two servers together o_O.

    Our GMs might just have no idea how to do that.

    ...

    So the reason why they can't move the files could be because they don't want to drive across the country to do so.
    "Physically" move files??? Huh? b:question

    You mean something like, they get the two servers in the same room, pull out the hard-drives, and start smacking them against each other while shouting, "Merge Data, merge!!!!"?

    Data files don't work that way, you know. It's not 1963 anymore. b:chuckle

    The cross-server PK on the China servers was done by copying the contestant's character data to a new server and running the contest there. The character data is stored in an SQL database on the Linux game server while the log-in information is on a separate SQL database that can be anywhere else in the world (which is why you can log-in to both West and East coast servers using the same log-in information without anybody from PWI having to "physically" move anything).

    From a technical perspective it would just be a matter of grabbing whatever handy SQL utility you prefer and using it to copy the players who will be participating to a new server.

    I'm sure the problem is logistical, not technical. Any IT guy/gal worth his/her salt could do it, but not if the rest of the company wasn't there to help organize the whole thing.
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Wtb> cross server tw. Impossible is nothing!...
    I just wanna trash the carebeAre ep's

    well, you're kinda' lame if the only thing u can trash is carebear server ep.
    and lemme remind you somethin, a few hardcore pvp-ers from our server moved to LC ... ask the folks on LC how easy it is to trash those carebear nubs.
    true, overall pvp on pve servers is kinda low , but ppl with skill are ppl with skill regardless of server. Remember that next time you're getting roflpwned by a carebear who rolled a char on HL
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  • Nyxya - Harshlands
    Nyxya - Harshlands Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    a weekly pk event between server sound great lol .. sadly i just don't see that happen any time soon..what is realy bad about this events i mean all is hours...3-4 am for me...b:cry
  • Aquilez - Sanctuary
    Aquilez - Sanctuary Posts: 240 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    [QUOTE=WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary;11770092
    Data files don't work that way, you know. It's not 1963 anymore. b:chuckle

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    dam, i think i did sleep too much b:shocked
  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Data files don't work that way, you know. It's not 1963 anymore. b:chuckle

    You didn't have to be mean about it! I don't know how servers work!b:cry

    *runs off into a corner crying/emoing*
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  • xcliqz
    xcliqz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I believe what's going on PWI is order from PW China.