which is better: getting R8 or getting HS?!

Great_Hope - Sanctuary
Great_Hope - Sanctuary Posts: 11 Arc User
edited January 2011 in Archer
Hi everyone, I have lvl 73 archer and working on getting money needed for her next good weapon, I was thinking of getting her Heaven Shatterer but my friend told me its a waste of money and that I should get R8 instead for better weapon and -interval gear..

But I thought R8 stuff are bound not like HS that I could sell if I have to for any reason and same for the armor because I wanted to get her gold tt99 which I could make nirvana gear with after "if" I can afford it!!!

So... idk I'm very confused about which is better to get.. can you guys help me out pls ??
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  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    R8 is far and away better than HS, though you'll need to wait an additional 5 levels before having access. I'd buy a HS at 95 and just resell it upon hitting 100. You should be able to recoup most if not all of your investment.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    You cannot sell Rank stuff.

    But Rank 8 is endgame, you won't have anything after them.

    Rank 8 bow is one of the best weapons you can have in the game. The only reason to even consider Heaven Shatterer would be the debuff.

    Also, Rank 8 comes with the chest armor, which is the best armor you can have for an Archer.

    Also, considering HS and Rank 8 at level 73 is a bit much, considering that you still have quite a few decent weapons on the way, such as Vast Land or Broad Land on 85.
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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    As a lowbie I wonder if grinding rep at lvl 7 or 20 would be a good idea.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    As a lowbie I wonder if grinding rep at lvl 7 or 20 would be a good idea.

    No, the time you invest is mostly wasted.

    For example, at my level, in an hour I can grind about 150k and 1,000 Dragon Points. The Dragon Points alone get me a single Wraith Officer's Badge, worth 25 reputation. I can buy at least one more with the coins I got, which would total 50.

    Basically, it's better to get a high level, farm coins and buy your rep than actually farm the rep.
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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I see, that would make sense but at the same time you would lose out on the armors in-between. Sure you will most likely surpass the armor but, it is still better at those particular levels.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Hi everyone, I have lvl 73 archer and working on getting money needed for her next good weapon, I was thinking of getting her Heaven Shatterer but my friend told me its a waste of money and that I should get R8 instead for better weapon and -interval gear..

    But I thought R8 stuff are bound not like HS that I could sell if I have to for any reason and same for the armor because I wanted to get her gold tt99 which I could make nirvana gear with after "if" I can afford it!!!

    So... idk I'm very confused about which is better to get.. can you guys help me out pls ??
    b:surrenderb:surrender

    Rank 8 for sure
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Lies Rank 9 is better :P

    o.o What items you need for Rank 8? Details b:laugh
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    200k reps.
  • Teppeii - Dreamweaver
    Teppeii - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,206 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I like the Heaven Shatterer for it's debuff proc, but that's just me I suppose. Makes people fond of me during Nirvana's 2nd. boss, for sure :3
    On indefinite hiatus :3
  • _Leif - Lost City
    _Leif - Lost City Posts: 369 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I like the Heaven Shatterer for it's debuff proc, but that's just me I suppose. Makes people fond of me during Nirvana's 2nd. boss, for sure :3

    ^^
    I always curse the world when we have no veno/no cv bow b:cry
  • Great_Hope - Sanctuary
    Great_Hope - Sanctuary Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Ty all for your replies ^^

    I got a broad land very nice one too, then I guess at 95 I'll sell it and get HS then when I hit 100 I'll see what I'll do then :D
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Ty all for your replies ^^

    I got a broad land very nice one too, then I guess at 95 I'll sell it and get HS then when I hit 100 I'll see what I'll do then :D

    Roll on RT and I'll you a 2 sock one for 70m
  • xposed1
    xposed1 Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Rank 8 has the ring and chest piece too. Def worth it.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    R8 bow is the same damage and speed as a g15 Nirvana slingshot except it can't seal or stun and is much cheaper. Being able to purge though is pretty epic and can easily allow you to take out heavily refined targets.
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  • Mrs_kasshu - Dreamweaver
    Mrs_kasshu - Dreamweaver Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Question: what if you dont plan on getting rank 8? then get the HS and keep it?
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  • gilnunes
    gilnunes Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    how can i get such reputation to have rank 8 or rank9 gear?
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    gilnunes wrote: »
    how can i get such reputation to have rank 8 or rank9 gear?

    There was sale on Reputation in the cash shop in December (temporary item). It required 72 gold to reach Rank 8.

    Many players are operating under the assumption that such a sale shall return in the future.
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    gilnunes wrote: »
    how can i get such reputation to have rank 8 or rank9 gear?

    You have to put your time into gathering reputation.

    You can do this in game (helping in FBs, and using every other reputation building mechanism). But one of the fastest ways to build reputation is turning in wraith's officer's badges. You will need almost ten thousand of them to get rank 8, but ten thousand wraith's officers badges might be easier to for you get than helping in thousands of FBs (or maybe not quite so many if enough of the FBs you help in are high level). You can make wraith officer badges from perfect tokens of luck using the "luck" tab of the boutique agent, but this will not be very efficient.

    Wraith's Officers badges were very cheap, last month. If you get them now, you will have to pay higher prices.

    Some people speculate that there will be future sales on the badges. If they turn out to be right, one approach would be to wait for another sale.

    However, when they offer a sale like that, they are competing with themselves. They pull in some money during the sale, but they dry up the higher priced cash flow that they would have had otherwise. Also, if their sales are too consistently predictable, they remove some of the "buy now" pressure that they get from one time sales events or other mechanisms which result in rising prices.

    But their previous sales history suggests rather strongly that prices are going to come down over time and that they plan on dropping the dollars needed for any current level of value.

    So, either:

    1) Wait for another sale.
    2) Pay a lot now.
    3) Find another alternative.
  • gilnunes
    gilnunes Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Thanks.
    What price had the badges on that last sale?
    Maybe they put on sale again when new race comes.
    Once i get all that reputation and then rank8, are those mega-armor given for free? Are there the complete set?

    Thanks again, and sorry my english. ;]
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    gilnunes wrote: »
    Thanks.
    What price had the badges on that last sale?
    Maybe they put on sale again when new race comes.
    Once i get all that reputation and then rank8, are those mega-armor given for free? Are there the complete set?

    Thanks again, and sorry my english. ;]

    The badges were 50 Badges for 45 silver. With that, the gold prices jumped a lot so a single badge cost about 9,000 coins.

    The armor are not free, the NPC will ask for some coins. For Rank 8 pieces, it's:
    Weapon: 2,000,000 coins
    Chest armor: 1,000,000 coins
    Leggings: 1,000,000 coins
    Belt: 1,000,000 coins

    And it's not a complete yet, it's just weapon, chest armor, leggings and belt.

    Also, for Rank 8, you need level 100.
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  • Delsedora - Archosaur
    Delsedora - Archosaur Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    The badges were 50 Badges for 45 silver. With that, the gold prices jumped a lot so a single badge cost about 9,000 coins.

    The armor are not free, the NPC will ask for some coins. For Rank 8 pieces, it's:
    Weapon: 2,000,000 coins
    Chest armor: 1,000,000 coins
    Leggings: 1,000,000 coins
    Belt: 1,000,000 coins

    And it's not a complete yet, it's just weapon, chest armor, leggings and belt.

    Also, for Rank 8, you need level 100.

    good info, thanks :)!
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  • gilnunes
    gilnunes Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Yup, thanks a lot fella! ;]
    Better than rank8 just rank9, isn't it? ;o
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    The G15 Nirvana (or 2nd cast nirvana) is also better than Rank 8 iirc
  • IshidaUryuu - Raging Tide
    IshidaUryuu - Raging Tide Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    As well as prices go i would say best is for lvl 80 get TT80 gold bow Crimson : Soulsmasher or w/e until you get either R8 or Heavens Shatterer either way the HS could be sold to get R8 when you get 100 so idk about that one but TT80 gold bow is OP ftw i remember it having as much ap as my HS +6 when its proc goes off ijs
  • grimreaperhc
    grimreaperhc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    As well as prices go i would say best is for lvl 80 get TT80 gold bow Crimson : Soulsmasher or w/e until you get either R8 or Heavens Shatterer either way the HS could be sold to get R8 when you get 100 so idk about that one but TT80 gold bow is OP ftw i remember it having as much ap as my HS +6 when its proc goes off ijs

    I have Soulsmasher waiting for me and I think about grinding with it for Heaven Shatterer. I guess I wont be lucky with FC squads but meh, who cares since you are having fun and you have some goals set. After I get the Heaven Shatterer I`ll be saving for turning it into Regenesis :3
  • Sint - Harshlands
    Sint - Harshlands Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    You have to put your time into gathering reputation.

    You can do this in game (helping in FBs, and using every other reputation building mechanism). But one of the fastest ways to build reputation is turning in wraith's officer's badges. You will need almost a thousand of them to get rank 8, but a thousand wraith's officers badges might be easier to for you get than helping in a thousand FBs (or maybe not quite so many if enough of the FBs you help in are high level). You can make wraith officer badges from perfect tokens of luck using the "luck" tab of the boutique agent, but this will not be very efficient.

    Fleuri may have failed math. In the interest of keeping you from doing the same, i'd like to note that 25 x almost a thousand = almost 25 thousand. Not 200,000.

    Also, what happened to reforging the HS? Reforged nirvana bow can have debuff or adv. debuff.

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25665

    There is also r9 (wich debuffs)

    Rank 8 top is the best for an archer. Period.