Magmite skills

Your best bet is to level-up sandblow.

Bash - Tough- Flash ream - Howl

Bash = 4 hold agro
Tougth = Make mobs hit 50% less on pet W then skil is lvl 5 xD
Flash ream = Good 4 kill mobs fast
Howl = Take down magdef -u will do more dg on mob!

Meh... The one skill I'd suggest adding isn't really something you can acquire easily, which is Pounce. Honestly, I'd love to put pounce on most of my pets, it's an awesome skill. It's basically only availble now on a pet if you buy a pet with the skill on it, since I don't think it even drops in Dragon Temple, and I haven't seen it in AH ever. So, it's basically the most rare skill ever in the game now, as far as scrolls are concerned. -_-

My Shaodu Cub has Bash, Flesh ream, Pounce, and Pierce. IMO, you should consider Pierce. It's not only a good skill for a solo pet to have, but for a party tank pet to have. Your DD will do more DD, and it will help your pet do more damage. not sure if it helps your pet generate aggro by doing more damage...

If you can swing a rare pet, get a Shaodu Cub? Has everything but Bash on it. You could take Flesh Ream off and leave Tough on a Cub, for an even better tank (put bash on it).

I'd ditch Sandblow, IMO. Elemental attacks are the first to go from my pets, and bash replaces them. b:bye

gelnd wrote: »

The Shaodu starts at level 20, and the OP mentioned a desire to not have to level a new pet up - tho I suppose it would be possible to find a leveled cub for sale if you're willing to pay for it.
Whether or not it is worth it depends on what you want out of a tank. The cub is smaller and faster than the rocky fellas, and has a higher magic def... but has a much smaller damage output. I personally use the cub as my tank pet and am very happy with it, but for someone already happy with a leveled Mag, it might not be worth it to switch.

i've been pondering a shaodu cub, but the low damage output concerns me. how do you go about keeping aggro on the little bear? do you find you steal aggro from it easily, or have to tone down your DDing a lot?

lmao That's what I get for having not used my magmite since level 30-something. XD Forgot they had Bash.

And pounce isn't a primary skill, it's a good opener for increased resistance mobs or increased life mobs, especially if you're soloing instances.

My Shaodu proved himself during TW... A good bit of fun that was. Mr Bear. I should break down and put Claw on him to keep him useful. >_>

Flash ream is good on all pets, w hige patk grow xD

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

Flash ream is good on all pets, w hige patk grow xD

Still 15s cooldown doesnt make it as effective as aggro gainer , Roar would be more effective

Dream_Kiss - Sanctuary wrote: »

I dont need more agro, I need more dps, so flesh realm or ele bash for that?

Ele bash can hit twice in the time it takes flesh ream to hit once, due to cooldown difference. Ream does have the benefit of being phys damage and therefore immune to the elemental balances (i.e. wood is weak to metal, etc.), but I tend to think the more rapid firing would let an ele bash do more damage in the long run, if you keep it going consistently. Plus, your Mag already comes with sandblow, so you would save the cost of removing it and putting a new skill on.

Bash deals low dg (lol just 1 hit), bleed/flash ream take dg over time(3 hits in 1) and a pet w HIGE patk, its get soo much better then bash.

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

WHAHHAHAHAHHAHA lol u can have borth skils in 1 pet XD

Yes, yes s/he can. I believe the OP stated the intention of keeping and leveling bash in the very first post, and the decision/discussion is about adding an ele bash or flesh ream for a second attack skill. Read the posts before bursting into capital letter laughter.

Howl will let your Scarabs do more damage by reducing the target's MDef. By experimenting, I found that having howl and pierce on one pet is really nice. Open with bash to get Aggro on pet, then have pet hit with Howl and use Ironwood at the same time. Alternatively, amp the mob/boss and hit it with pierce. Kill the boss/mob a lot faster.

As for Pulling. If you are doing the 'hit the boss, stow, re-call pet' pulling, Flesh Ream is probably the only skill you should use. Other skills work, but Flesh ream works the best. Using pierce means the boss will ignore you most of the time and go back to walking/idling/picking it's nose. Bash is hit or miss. If you specialize a pet, this is especially useful. My Kowlin is a meat-slab. I send it out to pull, and 90% of the time, it just dies. If it doesn't hit Flesh Ream first, boss ignores me after it dies.

If you're building a pet to do a specific instance, for farming, then there's probably only one kind of elemental mob and the boss is most likely the same. Get the elemental bash that's strong against them, and don't bother with any of the others. Howl would be nice, but not really 100% necessary.

I just don't like elemental bashes because you can't put all 5 of them on a pet, and I generalize my pets.

Dream_Kiss - Sanctuary wrote: »

Thanks for the advice! Though about pierce and howl. When I grind with my magmite (or sawfly), I hit the mob with bash, then I immediately fire ironwood, and a few scarabs (1 or 2) to kill it. There isnt really room for pierce in here. Also, if I use howl with my pet, that is one less attack he will do in time. So the damage I gain on that mob with howl, isnt all that more damage than my pet will do in the time he fires howl.

For instances its another story of course, pierce and howl should be great in there.

Heh, it's different for me since I've got a HA veno and a LA veno. Though, the Nix my HA veno has right now kills mobs so fast, they usually don't come out of stun from Pounce before they're dead.

For regular mobs, No, you would just use ironwood/Bash. If you have pierce, use it as an opener. If you are doing a Fox Form build, use it before you do your first attack, or whenever it cools down. Otherwise, Howl and Pierce for a Mage build aren't going to be really important on normal mobs.

How will reduce your pets attacks by a little over one attack, depending on the pet. But Howl will let you do increased magic damage on the mob. If you have an elemental bash, it will give taht bash an additional boost in damage over the next 15 seconds (which equates to about 5 seconds in the real world).

Debuffs are great for maximizing the damage you do, and your pet does. You can strengthen your overall damage by using howl, and shorten a boss. It will help you if you go in a party for an FB later. Also, Debuffs are best when multiple Debuffs are stacked.

Amplify Damage, BIDS, Holy Flame, and Sharpened Tooth Arrow should all be used at roughly the same time. If you have a high APS DD tanking, they should Demon spark.

Let me put it this way. You have a Veno, a Wiz, a BM, and a Sin, and they're killing a boss. It takes 2 minutes to kill the boss' 4 million HP just using normal attacks, Sin tanking, Demon sparking, 4 APS sparked.

The Veno, Wiz, and BM coordinate their Debuffs, and all hit the boss at the same time, every time, with their debuffs. That 2 minute battle just went twice as fast. Toss in the Veno's 79 skill hitting for Physical debuff 3/4 times, and you just knocked another 12 seconds or more off it. In that minute twelve seconds you knocked off, things can go bad. Squad wipe, etc.

It'll never happen that way, because wizzies are slackers, HF requires two sparks, and the sin would triple spark too soon. b:sad

Anyway, what I'm suggesting is for soloing bosses in instances, do this, and debuff bosses as much as you can to keep your fuzzy tail alive, and get used to amping/losing a huge chunk of your mana each time you shift out of Fox Form. I go from Full Mana to empty 4 times on a boss typically, just from Fox Form shifting, Amp, and Myriad (Myriad uses 800 mana).

o.o hm well.. its the veno that are the main. **** XD pets are more like exstra skills and dg...