5 APS is not fail...

Vindrael - Lost City
Vindrael - Lost City Posts: 165 Arc User
edited January 2011 in General Discussion
...unless it's on an assassin. Check this out:

How a sin can solo Frost quickly

Granted, for as much as you have to spend on gear to get to 5 APS, you should be able to take on a heck of a lot. But to solo frost (it looks like stealth helps a lot) seems a tad bit OP. b:chuckle

Of course, this is one more reason why I stopped QQ'ing and just rolled a sin myself. They are far squishier than my psychic at early levels, but with the proper gear and refines they are amazing at end-game.

Now my only QQ is that I am such a nab compared to the other sins on this server... I really need to learn how to play the class better, I keep getting killed (only level 36 at the moment). b:laugh
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    i agree with u. cause leveling is the hard part, getting the best gear is easy. /irony
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    amazing vid, just another reason that I rolled my own sin b:bye
  • SQUISHKASS - Sanctuary
    SQUISHKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    FCC is easy for classes that can go 5 aps & have decents enough hp, not only sins, but having stealth does save time on passing mobs.
  • Marche - Harshlands
    Marche - Harshlands Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    old news
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Not sure about the second boss, but couldn't a veno solo it and AoE the mobs to boot?
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  • Barb_nico - Harshlands
    Barb_nico - Harshlands Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vindrael - Lost City wrote: »
    ...unless it's on an assassin. Check this out:

    How a sin can solo Frost quickly

    Granted, for as much as you have to spend on gear to get to 5 APS, you should be able to take on a heck of a lot. But to solo frost (it looks like stealth helps a lot) seems a tad bit OP. b:chuckle

    Of course, this is one more reason why I stopped QQ'ing and just rolled a sin myself. They are far squishier than my psychic at early levels, but with the proper gear and refines they are amazing at end-game.

    Now my only QQ is that I am such a nab compared to the other sins on this server... I really need to learn how to play the class better, I keep getting killed (only level 36 at the moment). b:laugh

    nice video killer lolb:victory
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  • TesterLife - Archosaur
    TesterLife - Archosaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Solo'd FF with 2.5 aps yesterday on my BM. Was an interesting experience, but I ain't gonna do it again until I can afford to spend a bit of cash on the game to get multiple charms. The second boss freakin destroyed my HP charm.
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    That vid was posted in the sin forums about a month or so ago, old news is old. FCing solo gets so boring. >.<
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  • Ruxal - Harshlands
    Ruxal - Harshlands Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ......But thats not op.....only in PWI.
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    SQUISHKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »
    FCC is easy for classes that can go 5 aps & have decents enough hp, not only sins, but having stealth does save time on passing mobs.

    Yeah, stealth does save time, barb would just pull mobs and aoe them, BMs too. Though that would need bit better armors than what sins need using stealth. I myself cant solo FC as 2nd boss is just nuts cause I cant kill both spawns =(. QQ, 2.5aps/3.33aps, QQ.
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  • Lutirica - Harshlands
    Lutirica - Harshlands Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Another achivement for Harshlands b:cool Look at how we are trying to make life easy for everyone.
    Fail troll of harshlands
  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    fist/claw sin with CoD...b:lipcurl
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Soloing frost is sooooo boooring. b:surrender
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Soloing frost is sooooo boooring. b:surrender

    +1

    After 4-5 days to ding my sin to 102 i was already tired of 4 hours of FC a day. The mentality of sticking to it was the most impressive thing about Kit hitting 105, not the actual amount of experience needed. b:surrender
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  • Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary
    Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    2nd boss gets easier if u kill mobs?
  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary wrote: »
    2nd boss gets easier if u kill mobs?

    yes youll see his name cahnged, 3 stages i think, easiest is "Weakened", and also using anti stun(maze steps, vacuity) will prevent the water/occult combo from hurting so bad since you can heal/BP heal

    quick pwdatabase check...

    Weakened Diabolic Shocktrooper - 150 Water, weak Earth 805436 29204 6021
    Tough Diabolic Shocktrooper - 150 Water, weak Earth 905436 29204 6021
    Frenzied Diabolic Shocktrooper - 150 Water, weak Earth 1105436 29204 6021

    seems same attack/def but lower hp, which is nice
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    who said aps should get a nerf?
    nubs.
    What you see in that vid is totally fair. I mean totally.
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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Its not hard to solo frost for a 5.0 Bm/Barb either. Might take 10 extra minutes if you compare it to an equality geared sin. Other classes doesn't benefit as much from getting those extra few levels which is why BM/barbs dont live in Frost even if they actually can solo it almost as well.

    Bms/Barbs have way better aoe skills/pulling ability's for exp room and those dragons that stuns you in the end, for example. Guess sins have less repairs if anything. You are also limited to 10 activations a day and than there is exhausting time, its the same for all classes. Assassins cant run endless Frosts really, if anyone was thinking that.

    Main reason why so many sins are no-lifing in Frost solo is because level > gear when it comes to assassins. Its not because solo Frost is easy and funny. Unless you're 103+ there will be loads of other sins that can see you and than you're not so OP anymore. Even if you have Rank9 +12 a higher lvl sin with **** gear will most likely shiet on you b:chuckle. I kinda find that part hilarious, lacking those levels after 100+ makes sins easy prey like any other class - totally defenseless against stealth.
  • Happy_Killer - Harshlands
    Happy_Killer - Harshlands Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »
    Another achivement for Harshlands b:cool Look at how we are trying to make life easy for everyone.

    You're only in here because the Assassin who solo'd is a Zulu...and EVERYBODY knows you're one of the most butthurt people in Harshlands. If I had a dollar for every time you whined about how OP they were, I could out-buy PWE...and maybe even have enough left over to hire a staff that doesn't stick stuff like THAT in their games.


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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    TigerLily - Lost City wrote: »
    Its not hard to solo frost for a 5.0 Bm/Barb either. Might take 10 extra minutes if you compare it to an equality geared sin. Other classes doesn't benefit as much from getting those extra few levels which is why BM/barbs dont live in Frost even if they actually can solo it almost as well.

    Bms/Barbs have way better aoe skills/pulling ability's for exp room and those dragons that stuns you in the end, for example. Guess sins have less repairs if anything. You are also limited to 10 activations a day and than there is exhausting time, its the same for all classes. Assassins cant run endless Frosts really, if anyone was thinking that.

    Main reason why so many sins are no-lifing in Frost solo is because level > gear when it comes to assassins. Its not because solo Frost is easy and funny. Unless you're 103+ there will be loads of other sins that can see you and than you're not so OP anymore. Even if you have Rank9 +12 a higher lvl sin with **** gear will most likely shiet on you b:chuckle. I kinda find that part hilarious, lacking those levels after 100+ makes sins easy prey like any other class - totally defenseless against stealth.

    It takes my sin about 15-20 extra seconds to do the big room vs a BM pulling all mobs and aoeing them all at the same time. Rest of the mobs can easily be skipped. A full run takes about 30-35 minutes and that's about 15 minutes hyper time. I do 4 runs and get about 40m experience a day. I spend about 3 hours in total per day if I stay focused on FC runs. With that kinda timing I don't see any BM/Barb being able to keep up. My sin is def above the average sin that would go and solo though, but I know several +10 2 socket weaponed BM/Barbs that can't really break 50 minutes for a full run, and the second boss takes them much longer because they can sometimes get caught up in bubble if they mistime it. I can kill that boss before it even attempts to sleep me. So the difference in damage and stealth is very very VERY important on who could go and do solo FCs (and be efficient at it).

    You are correct, we are limited to only 10 activations 60 minutes per day, but sins def can do it much easier and efficient then other classes (thus why so many are reaching higher lvls like 102+ vs other classes). Honestly big room mobs hurt more then any boss in there. Also on a side note, sins can't be the same level and see you if you have demon shadow escape, they must be one level above you. Once you hit 103...well you see the rankings on the main page. b:laugh
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