BM or Sin?

Vongola_X - Lost City
Vongola_X - Lost City Posts: 30 Arc User
edited January 2011 in General Discussion
I've gotten REALLY bored with my wiz. I made this character more than a year ago, and i heard then that wiz's are the best DDs. After a 1 year break from pwi i come back and played for a month , only to find out BMs and Sins are the new best DDs. So i was wondering which char i should play now BM or Sin?


i want to choose the character who can lv the fastest and do the most damage and has decent survivability.
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Assassins do more damage; blademasters have better survivability and probably level faster (due to greater ability to AOE grind.) Both are insanely expensive to get the interval gear that allows them to out-DD any other class.
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  • Vongola_X - Lost City
    Vongola_X - Lost City Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Assassins do more damage; blademasters have better survivability and probably level faster (due to greater ability to AOE grind.) Both are insanely expensive to get the interval gear that allows them to out-DD any other class.

    how much in terms of USD does it cost to get 5 ads?
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    5 ads? depends on what marketing company you're hiring.
    To get 5 aps? probably around 150, tops
    Saying that, 4 aps is cheap, u get some refine, then you farm the cash for 5 aps.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I've gotten REALLY bored with my wiz. I made this character more than a year ago, and i heard then that wiz's are the best DDs. After a 1 year break from pwi i come back and played for a month , only to find out BMs and Sins are the new best DDs. So i was wondering which char i should play now BM or Sin?


    i want to choose the character who can lv the fastest and do the most damage and has decent survivability.

    Cheaper 5aps, Better survivability, Better stun AOE skills = BM
    Most Damage, Best End Game Character (my opinion though), Fastest Leveler (99+), Seems higher desirability in end game squads = Sin

    When it comes to cost (assuming you have a level 100 of one of them) around $4k-$5k for sin and a BM not to much cheaper. That will get you 5aps and a pretty good base to farm the rest you need. For all out right away i'd say $8k range (for sin BM cheaper).
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  • Vongola_X - Lost City
    Vongola_X - Lost City Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    lol one of you said $150 and the other said $8k.
    $150 i can afford but $8k is so not worth to spend on a f2p b:surrender
  • sig1043a
    sig1043a Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    When it comes to cost (assuming you have a level 100 of one of them) around $4k-$5k for sin and a BM not to much cheaper. That will get you 5aps and a pretty good base to farm the rest you need. For all out right away i'd say $8k range (for sin BM cheaper).

    Anyone who drops anywhere near $4k - $8k on a free mmorpg either has way to much money for their own good, or needs to re-evaluate their life and priorities.
  • Admante - Dreamweaver
    Admante - Dreamweaver Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    $150 gets you nearly nothing if you're looking for 95+ gear.
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    $150 Gets You Nearly Nothing If You're Looking For 95+ Gear.

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  • Vongola_X - Lost City
    Vongola_X - Lost City Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    $150 gets you nearly nothing if you're looking for 95+ gear.

    so thers no way to get good at this game whitout spend thousands of $s? b:shocked
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I would suggest a sin since its cheaper to achieve a higher damage output compared to BMs.

    Following would be equips you go for:-

    1.) Rank8 Top
    2.) Ashura's Bracers
    3.) Ashura's Boots
    4.) Lion Heart's Belt
    5.) Lion Heart's Necklace
    6.) Energetic robe - Lunar Glade
    7.) Rank 6 Daggers

    This would put u at 2.86 base and if you get demon spark you hit 4.0 aps

    If you want 5.0 aps, you would need to go for the tome or nirvana/rank9 leggings.

    Ok provided youre gonna cash shop all of them, you would roughly need like

    1.) 45~50 mils for the Energetic Robe
    2.) 10~12 mils for the Bracer's Gold Mats
    3.) 20~25 mils for Boot's Gold Mats
    4.) 20~25 mils for the Belt's Gold Mats
    5.) 10~12 mils for the Necklace'd gold mats
    6.) 10~20 mils for the green mats involved
    7.) 6 mils for all the subs?

    Taking all the high end costs thats a total of 150 mils in coins.

    Add in refines and shards youre looking at a good $200 (if you sell gold using the AH)

    Now, coming to the rank equipment...if there is a sale like what we had during christmas, it would cost you roughly $70 for acquiring rank8.

    So my approximation would be that you might need close to $300 to acquire your 4.0 aps with a sin. With a BM its gonna cost more since you would not have the rank8 chest giving you -0.10 interval.

    Is $300 high? I guess it depends.
  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    It`s easier for BM`s to get 5.0 (unless sins use fists or claws)
  • Ruxal - Harshlands
    Ruxal - Harshlands Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    The developers love sins. They gave them a I win button.
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    BMs are better than assassins. Heavy armor.

    Aeolian blade, roar of the pride, drake bash, leaps, atmost strike, meteor rush.


    Well, BMs are the true melee, sins at early levels are annoying to play, either you kite, spam HP pots / use life powder or die as a sin, >.> BMs are easier to play than assassin ...

    Well to me,
    Veno > Barb > BM > Sin > caster > archer in PVE TBH

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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ignoring what yulk just said,

    you can get the stuff step by step,
    dont cash in everything

    you get in squads even with lower aps, and you improve by time
    start with the ceaper equips
    the more int you have, the faster u will be farming


    a BM comes with tons of more survivability due to heavy armor, and when you refine it, you get even more HP at the same rate


    the olol-awesome assasins are cash monsters with +8 minimum refines on all armor parts
    you can have the same pdef and hp with lower refines on bm, tho less DPS
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  • WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide
    WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    sig1043a wrote: »
    Anyone who drops anywhere near $4k - $8k on a free mmorpg either has way to much money for their own good, or needs to re-evaluate their life and priorities.

    agreed. and go with a full dex light armor fist user BM. it's basically the origional assassin and can kick an assassin's *** xD
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  • SomebodyTwo - Lost City
    SomebodyTwo - Lost City Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Well as far as BM vs. Sin is concerned I prefer sins due to the stealth and debuffs. But as far as AoE grinding is concerned I would have to go with seeker. After watching a seeker tank all the pq 60-80 mobs and the boss at the same time....
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    so thers no way to get good at this game whitout spend thousands of $s? b:shocked
    Well, if all you're going to do is hyper/oracle level and not have the patience to farm your gear, then the obvious answer is yes. Otherwise, you don't even need to spend that. Gear is very easy to attain in this game with some patience, work, and good friends.

    Personally, I like sin for the solo factor, as well as sage bloodpaint. It's ****ing delicious. I also like my BM for the tank factor. Luckily, I have both.