Skills Question Please

Sulvain - Dreamweaver
Sulvain - Dreamweaver Posts: 41 Arc User
edited January 2011 in Archer
Almost 22 on my archer now and I'm loving it. Just have a few qustions regarding skills. Annor's guide was awsome. Here goes:

I have Take Aim-Level 4

Knockback Arrow-Level 1

Lightning Strike- Level 2

Blaze/Frost Arrow-Level 3

Vicious Arrow-Level 1

Winged Shell-Level 3

Winged Blessing-Level 3

Flight Mastery-Level 3

That's currently what I have. I know I need to max Frost/Blaze arrow. What about lightning strike and vicious arrow? Will I need to max knockback arrow?

Is annor's guide up to date? Reason I'm asking this. On mobs with increases life I start with frost arrow followed by take aim(short for chi) and normal until they get close. I knock back arrow then normal until they die unless I miss alot :P. I've got second wind for my genie and I use winged shell every time I'm done fighting an enemy to regen mana.

Now during the fight if they get to me with a decent amount of health I'll use winged shell immediately. But is Vicious Arrow just a pre requisite for other I guess better skills. I am currently using the crossbow from fb19 with 2 +12 physical attack gems. How long will I use that bow and what will be my next good weapon? Also do I want physical resistance gear(belts and necklaces) or do I want evasion gear? I had heard evasion was broken in this game. o.O Thanks to those whome reply. b:pleasedb:victory
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  • grimreaperhc
    grimreaperhc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    My opinion about the skills :

    Take Aim - Absolutely great skill, sealing the target at one place which is pretty useful for melee targets also dealing a pretty decent damage. I`m maxing it.

    Knockback - Mostly efficient at level 1 since you're going to use it only to push your enemies back ( not working in PvP ).

    Lightning Strike - I've maxed it. Amazing damage against HA users also working against the ... **** forgot which element mobs, sorry. Working amazingly nice with the Thunder Shock skill.

    Blaze Arrow - Max it. It's a buff.

    Frost Arrow - I have it around lvl 5, barely using it now, but really helpful in the lower levels.

    Vicious Arrow - At level 1, not even using it. I don't find it helpful. You're dealing damage big enough to use a dmg over time skills.

    Winged Shell - Works for me at lvl 8. Don't know about the higher lvls but I guess it will be good enough.


    Winged Blessing - Absolutely max it. You're an archer, you need the range.

    Flight Mastery - This is up to you. I`m not using the original elf's wings because I had a few accidents with em lol.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Don't level knockback. The damage increases but not the knockback distance. Uses more mana too.

    Lightning strike is useful in PvP agianst HA opponents, less useful in PvE. 50% close range dmg reduction does NOT affect this skill though.

    The DoT [Damage over Time] skills are best left at level 1. I use it to nerf damage when I can't tank something.

    I prefer p. def belts for archers, since we're kind of squishy and LA armour offers more m. def than p. def. Either is fine as long as the add ons are good. Avoid evasion belts unless the add-ons are excellent.
  • Sulvain - Dreamweaver
    Sulvain - Dreamweaver Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I actually use vicious arrow sometimes on the mobs with extra life. I don't use frost arrow that much though. But once in awhile I do. I just Take Aim, Knock Back, Winged shell and normal until they die. Seems to work right now as I'm still a lowbie lol. Might have to change it up abit at higher levels. And I dueled a barb my level lol. Destroyed him with Lightning Strike and Knock Back lol. That is the first time I've been cursed at. Was fun though.
  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Sulvain - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I actually use vicious arrow sometimes on the mobs with extra life. I don't use frost arrow that much though. But once in awhile I do. I just Take Aim, Knock Back, Winged shell and normal until they die. Seems to work right now as I'm still a lowbie lol. Might have to change it up abit at higher levels. And I dueled a barb my level lol. Destroyed him with Lightning Strike and Knock Back lol. That is the first time I've been cursed at. Was fun though.

    Frost Arrow , i find this the bread and Butter of PVE , unless u have an extremely good weapon Frost arrow helps to gain the upper hand in a PVE Fight . Also i use it a lot in BHs in case a squishy draws aggro , the slow effect helps him to escape. In my few PVP experiences , the use for Frost are limited i sometimes use it if my stun arrow doenst stun the target.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Cast Winged shell before the fight, saves time which you could be dealing damage.

    Lol@Knockback in PvP, you know it doesn't work right?
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

    Lol@Knockback in PvP, you know it doesn't work right?

    I dont think anyone mentioned using knockback in pvp...
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Sulvain - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    And I dueled a barb my level lol. Destroyed him with Lightning Strike and Knock Back lol. That is the first time I've been cursed at. Was fun though.
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I dont think anyone mentioned using knockback in pvp...

    b:cute I beg to differ
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    GrimReaperHC wrote: »
    Take Aim - Absolutely great skill, sealing the target at one place which is pretty useful for melee targets also dealing a pretty decent damage. I`m maxing it.

    Your description sounds like Aim Low, rather than Take Aim?
    GrimReaperHC wrote: »
    Frost Arrow - I have it around lvl 5, barely using it now, but really helpful in the lower levels.

    I am not a frost arrow fan, myself. For my lower levels I used winged shell and/or regeneration apothecaries.
    GrimReaperHC wrote: »
    Vicious Arrow - At level 1, not even using it. I don't find it helpful. You're dealing damage big enough to use a dmg over time skills.

    I found vicious arrow and serrated arrow to be very useful for soloing the final monsters in dragon quests. This would work similar for oracle opponents, though I imagine most people use charms or clerics instead of kiting.
    GrimReaperHC wrote: »
    Winged Shell - Works for me at lvl 8. Don't know about the higher lvls but I guess it will be good enough.

    Winged shell worked great when I got it to level 10, but then I started outleveling it, which was a pain. (Sage winged shell works nicely, again, but level 10 was better for mana regeneration. Demon winged shell would be far superior for mana regeneration, but maybe not so good for absorbing damage.)
  • grimreaperhc
    grimreaperhc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Your description sounds like Aim Low, rather than Take Aim?

    And that's true, thanks for correcting me. I was at work and I`m pretty distracted :/ Also, always messing up those two skills. Anyway, can't really give an opinion about take aim stopped using it in my early levels :x

    I think he used Knockback in PvP only for the damage output not because it really works, but who knows ...
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    edited January 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    b:cute I beg to differ

    That post most have been lurking in my blind spot. <_<
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I would say that differently:

    Knockback Arrow works in PvP, but player characters are immune to knockback.

    Finding a situation where knockback on a pet is the right action is rare (but if their pet is in range of a squadmate and the veno is not, or if you think you can push the pet out of range of the veno, then knockback might be the right choice).

    The real use of knockback arrow in PvP is DPS. This can be especially true if you have a crossbow -- crossbow DPS tends to be higher with the right skills than with normal attacks, even if you wear -interval gear.
  • Sulvain - Dreamweaver
    Sulvain - Dreamweaver Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Thanks for all the replies. I did use knockback for the damage. While vicious arrows was draining his health I could see him using his genie skills. Every time I had seen his health go up I'd hit him with knock back(If it was off cooldown). Kept vicious arrow on him. Frost arrow to keep him away. He went off on me really badly. But it wasn't pk so I don't know what his problem was. He challenged me. It wasn't the other way around. It was a fun duel for being my first real duel. Though I fought a cleric later that day and lost. Maybe I did something wrong as I'm not used to pvp. Again thanks.b:victory

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