fist/axe rotation

mrkbbjj
mrkbbjj Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2010 in Blademaster
I had a question about alternating from fist to axe and vice versa during combat. When the best time or situation is or for what skill etc.. Right now I like using fists,but occassionally switch to axe during combat if I get an add or if Ijust feel like switching.
I know each has their best situations and against particular mobs. I pretty much only do pve so no pvp for me(just not a fan of pvp for some reason).
Any tips to better my dps and surviability would be greatly appreciated.
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  • AsHeZ - Harshlands
    AsHeZ - Harshlands Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Hi,

    If your only interested in PvE then your better off using fists because they will generate chi faster for spark / heaven's flame.

    You can also switch to axe to stun a mob with Drake bash to protect any party member who aggro mobs unnecessarily especially the cleric as well as use heavens flame on mobs.

    In PvP I still prefer the axe option for stun lock and rarely use fists but If i were to use fists and switch to axe it would be to use drake bash as an extra stun as well as to use heaven's flame if needed.
  • PineappleTea - Raging Tide
    PineappleTea - Raging Tide Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    hm all I can suggest you is same like AsHeZ and if somebody challagenes you to duel never use fists there... (I dont talk about endgame)
    and there is a skill for fists ''cyclone heel'' that all suggest to max... I skilled all my axe skills and I cant find any use for that skill because in that time it casts I can hit mobs already and so I never use it.. oops Im a little out of this topic but it would be nice if somebody could tell me when cyclone heel is usefull hehe
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    hm all I can suggest you is same like AsHeZ and if somebody challagenes you to duel never use fists there... (I dont talk about endgame)
    and there is a skill for fists ''cyclone heel'' that all suggest to max... I skilled all my axe skills and I cant find any use for that skill because in that time it casts I can hit mobs already and so I never use it.. oops Im a little out of this topic but it would be nice if somebody could tell me when cyclone heel is usefull hehe


    Cyclone Heel gives you an APS boost. b:shocked How could you not find that useful?

    If I'm dueling someone, I stun, then cyclone heel/frenzy, and it's all over, most of the time. Especially sins. And my BM is only level 62 right now, so it's only a nub duel, but whatever.
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    hm all I can suggest you is same like AsHeZ and if somebody challagenes you to duel never use fists there... (I dont talk about endgame)
    and there is a skill for fists ''cyclone heel'' that all suggest to max... I skilled all my axe skills and I cant find any use for that skill because in that time it casts I can hit mobs already and so I never use it.. oops Im a little out of this topic but it would be nice if somebody could tell me when cyclone heel is usefull hehe


    Because leveling cyclone heel only increases duration. It says it increases speed by x%, but it will always give you a -.05 interval. That's why you keep it at level 5 or 6. And cyclone takes kinda long to cast in a duel so you should glitch cyclone instead.
    AP classes are a real butt pounding...
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Because leveling cyclone heel only increases duration. It says it increases speed by x%, but it will always give you a -.05 interval. That's why you keep it at level 5 or 6. And cyclone takes kinda long to cast in a duel so you should glitch cyclone instead.

    While usually correct, I'd still refer to this post: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=10156612&postcount=6
    100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
    pwcalc.com/e7016929e7b204ae "Pure axe" 8k HP multipath BM, last one of my kind.
  • PineappleTea - Raging Tide
    PineappleTea - Raging Tide Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    ty for the link, I also knew the effect of the skill but for example now when most mobs casts first I use the canceling first and in my opinion its faster to : kick - hit - hit - hit... than kick - cyclone heel - hit - hit...
    and thanks for advices... my bm is 78 and when I trained dueling with a friend the difference between axes and fists is very very big... I cant think of class that I would prefer to attack with fists... drake bash is better than all fist skills together against a single opponent I think

    I will take a look at 'frenzy'.. maybe this skill will make more uses for cyclone heelb:bye
  • mrkbbjj
    mrkbbjj Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    How usefull is drakes breath bash in PVE? Is it worth getting at any level?? I've been working on getting my stuns up(roar of pride-lvl 7,drakes bash-lvl 5,Aeolin Blade-lvl 8) as they are lagging,also been working on Physical Marrow(now level 8)/Dimond Sutra(lvl 8),though I swore it was maxed :). I still low on levels on my aoe spells and same for fist skills though I only started fist just recently.
  • Ben - Raging Tide
    Ben - Raging Tide Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    @PineappleTea: Check out Bolt of Tyreseus, it's a 1-shot fist skill (very nice for TW, disables a whole area).
    Fists are used to mainly DD for PvE or kill a stunned player in PvP. Before around level 95, or 99, depending on the interval gears you can afford, fists will not DD a lot more than axes.
    You can get up to 4 hits per second without buffs as a blademaster using fists (5 max).
  • PineappleTea - Raging Tide
    PineappleTea - Raging Tide Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    mrkbbjj wrote: »
    How usefull is drakes breath bash in PVE? Is it worth getting at any level?? I've been working on getting my stuns up(roar of pride-lvl 7,drakes bash-lvl 5,Aeolin Blade-lvl 8) as they are lagging,also been working on Physical Marrow(now level 8)/Dimond Sutra(lvl 8),though I swore it was maxed :). I still low on levels on my aoe spells and same for fist skills though I only started fist just recently.

    Drakes Bash is very useful...it costs one spark but its really worth it when you want to stun annoying mage mobs who run all the time or you want to rescue a cleric or another squishie from a mob, and in fb59 there are mobs climbing up the walls so I use it there a lot
    and its damage is very good too

    I hope to reach 79 tomorrow or the day after and learn Bolt of Tyreseus. I just have to figure out how to get lvl 79 skills because it will be my highest toon and I think I saw somewhere that there are books or something needed to learn it so I hope its not very expensive...
  • mrkbbjj
    mrkbbjj Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I'm level 65 now,but I still need to do my lvl 59 cultivation so i can get Hevanly Flame or whatever its called :) Just soo much stuff to get and trying to prioritize whats skills to get first....