Finally! :D
Aeil - Dreamweaver
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Well guys after a long time of deciding what class i wanted to play (im scatterbrained so i cant ever pick anything 
). Well anyways ive decided to become a clericb:victory
I like the idea of helping people and also being able to DD pretty well too
Feel free to say anything, this was just a simple post to let you know that ive picked a cleric b:laugh
). Well anyways ive decided to become a clericb:victoryI like the idea of helping people and also being able to DD pretty well too
Feel free to say anything, this was just a simple post to let you know that ive picked a cleric b:laugh
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Welcome to hell, my friend.
You'd best put those hopes of being DD away. I mean, who else is going to heal? b:shocked0 -
Swannx - Archosaur wrote: »Welcome to hell, my friend.
You'd best put those hopes of being DD away. I mean, who else is going to heal? b:shocked
The....barbarian?
b:puzzledhemoglobin: idk how the hell you can turn the word burrito into something sexual. perversion at its finest
b:shocked
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Meh putting away DDing is tough but hey i still got all the healing and cool buffs :P
and what about a situation where i dont have to heal like PvP? DD then maybe xD0 -
Look bro.
There is a DD cleric named Golgotha. He fails.
Do NOT follow in his footsteps.
You'll make yourself look like an idiot.
Anyhow... Best of luck in your Clerical journeys.
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KK guys well thanks for the warm welcome and advice!
Guess ill be off playin my cleric now b:pleased0 -
Don't misinterpret this. If you put your mind to it you'll be a good DD cleric. You'll be able to solo TT and other bh's pretty easily.Malpractice - Harshlands wrote: »Look bro.
There is a DD cleric named Golgotha. He fails.
Do NOT follow in his footsteps.
You'll make yourself look like an idiot.
Anyhow... Best of luck in your Clerical journeys.
Try not to get spam fcked by everything.
Golgatha because of his DD skills is good at Pk and and PVE. And he's not fail because of how much he DD's. There's a problem with going DD though as a cleric. Full Battle clerics just aren't in demand.
The reason Golgatha was laughed out of FCC and Nirvana was because he's only good at being a DD. It's not bad to be a DD as a cleric. It's just that in squad situations a cleric is demanded to do something that is frustrating, boring, and requires a LOT of patience. It's called HEALING. It's called watching the boss WHILE spamming IHB to CHECK who has aggro.
Golgatha is not good at this. Be CAREFUL as you level up and hit the 90's that you constantly keep your healing skills (macro management, IHB spamming, debuffing the boss) sharp so that you dont' lose those skills. Golgatha likely got to 100 by doing his bh89 and FCC. REPEATEDLY
But what I believe happened to Golgatha is that as he realized that he could solo bh89 eden and that he could DEAL DAMAGE like a STEROID enhanced Lineman and steal aggro from lvl 97 bm's that shouldn't have lost aggro to a "cleric". I've been in squad with him while he's been farming bh89 eden and I've seen him hold aggro as well as any psy,wizzy,veno in there.
Don't Lose your healing skills as you hit high lvl's and start soloing everything but bh 99. My faction leader hates all the 100's clerics on the server and calls them fail because they dont' keep track of who has aggro and in Nirvana as a sin it's either him or the BM who grab aggro.
Another faction mate of mine (Theoclese, lvl 100 psy) in STARS says that the 90's clerics who run FCC 90+ with him don't have or know that with maxed purify on the bubble boss they can effectively keep the enitre squad purified whilst healing the tank so long as they dont' get sleeped or bubbled themselves.
The moral of the story......Develop GOOD healing skills in whatever way possible and keep those skills sharp by running in bh's and fcc runs (when you hit 80). Dont' get stuck in a rut soloing. If you become a soloing cleric you will NOT find yourself in squads for FCC or your bh's when you want to level and trust me you WANT to lvl as a cleric to go from being a fail caster that most people only need for heals and rez to a class that can become a nightmare in both pvp and pve.0 -
I'm fullsupport, I prefer healing over DDing. When I heal, I am not 'in battle' so my MP regen is normal. I rarely need mana food for healing and Sage spark helps a lot. DDing eats up my mana. Sometimes people complain why I don't DD (while we're killing weak mobs that do not hit tank too much). *shrugs* I only maxed Plume and Cyclone and not willing to learn any more offensive skills. b:shutup0
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Swannx - Archosaur wrote: »Welcome to hell, my friend.
You'd best put those hopes of being DD away. I mean, who else is going to heal? b:shocked
All due respect, but that's an ignorant statement.
The best clerics heal, debuff, and DD.Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
Current math challenge: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1029711&page=45
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healing isnt rly that boring i been doing that almost 2yrs i can know it ;P what i love about clerics are the buffs and heals for sure , cleric can do well at DD aswell, at the beginning you may have to heal more than on later lvls caus the low lvl plp dont have the right hp or defence to stay alive without full spam heals, later on you can DD more and more in squads, sometimes clerics can do some rly amazing things
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is not that our aim is too high
and we miss it
but that it's too low and
we reach it.
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b:cute b:pleasedhealing isnt rly that boring i been doing that almost 2yrs i can know it ;P what i love about clerics are the buffs and heals for sure , cleric can do well at DD aswell, at the beginning you may have to heal more than on later lvls caus the low lvl plp dont have the right hp or defence to stay alive without full spam heals, later on you can DD more and more in squads, sometimes clerics can do some rly amazing things0 -
The less lazy cleric does that...Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »All due respect, but that's an ignorant statement.
The best clerics heal, debuff, and DD.Aasimar:
"Bollocks - a guy that will always point out to some1s nonsense and generally indicate contempt for a certain task, subject or opinion. A balancing force and more often then not, a voice of reason around thees parts. There is also paradox in that being his cleric name, as he likes to put it "useless char", while he is one of the best clerics on the server in PvP and PvE imo."0 -
Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »All due respect, but that's an ignorant statement.
The best clerics heal, debuff, and DD.
I almost never go out of my way to DD if I'm the only cleric in a party. I'll end up killing the Nirvana squad, not be able to BB in early TTs, not be able to keep tank alive in TT3-xs, and overall waste that much more mana pots just to kill the boss like 1 min. faster.
No no, here is the more appropriate statement: the best clerics do not cause squad wipes and unnecessary deaths, given that the instance or boss is not beyond the squad's capabilities.
As long as you are doing the above, you're doing your job and it's fine. If you feel the need to add DD, that's just a personal choice, but it's not something you're expected/required to do, unless maybe if there are 2 clerics.0 -
good cleric heal and debuf bos not dd...no mater what how when cleric dmg is nothing compared to 5 aps sin bm...at most u get charm jump on tank and he wont like that at allb:laugh
PS: can't use as excuse "but my mana charm jump too" ..try do that u get replaced faster then devs find ways to pull more cash outta this game0 -
Swannx - Archosaur wrote: »I almost never go out of my way to DD if I'm the only cleric in a party. I'll end up killing the Nirvana squad, not be able to BB in early TTs, not be able to keep tank alive in TT3-xs, and overall waste that much more mana pots just to kill the boss like 1 min. faster.
No no, here is the more appropriate statement: the best clerics do not cause squad wipes and unnecessary deaths, given that the instance or boss is not beyond the squad's capabilities.
As long as you are doing the above, you're doing your job and it's fine. If you feel the need to add DD, that's just a personal choice, but it's not something you're expected/required to do, unless maybe if there are 2 clerics.
Obviously you are not going to DD if you have to use BB...
Also, when I ran 3-x's, I debuffed and DDed all the time and never wasn't "able to keep the tank alive" when not in BB.
You can and should play however you like. The fact is, many of the greatest clerics I knew could debuff the boss, heal, and DD. And to say that DD is never an option when healing is an ignorant statement. If you had initially said something more open, then that's a different matter. You're right about the last part, though. I should not say that it's an expectation. Mea culpa on that one.
Let me rephrase the more "appropriate statement":
"So long as you keep the squad alive, you may do whatever you choose in an instance. Never act in a way that is not beneficial to the squad's progress and does not keep them alive."
b:byeProving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
Current math challenge: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1029711&page=45
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"Any skills that can be used to kill you will interrupt BB when successful." -truekossy | "...Sage archers are kind of like Mac owners. They are proud of the weirdest and most unnecessary things." -Aesthor | "We ALL know Jesus doesn't play PWI. He may have suffered a lot for humanity, but he'd NEVER punish himself this way." -Abstractive | "I approve of bananas." -SashaGray0 -
Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »Obviously you are not going to DD if you have to use BB...
Also, when I ran 3-x's, I debuffed and DDed all the time and never wasn't "able to keep the tank alive" when not in BB.
You can and should play however you like. The fact is, many of the greatest clerics I knew could debuff the boss, heal, and DD. And to say that DD is never an option when healing is an ignorant statement. If you had initially said something more open, then that's a different matter. You're right about the last part, though. I should not say that it's an expectation. Mea culpa on that one.
Let me rephrase the more "appropriate statement":
"So long as you keep the squad alive, you may do whatever you choose in an instance. Never act in a way that is not beneficial to the squad's progress and does not keep them alive."
b:bye
I never said DD is not an option. In fact, the first post was half a joke that the preceding posters seemed to understand. You need to stop trolling me.0 -
Swannx - Archosaur wrote: »You need to stop trolling me.
Get over yourself, I was expressing my point of view. If you don't actually disagree with me or I've misinterpreted you, then forgive me for inferring incorrectly.Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
Current math challenge: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1029711&page=45
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Any skills that can be used to kill you will interrupt BB when successful." -truekossy | "...Sage archers are kind of like Mac owners. They are proud of the weirdest and most unnecessary things." -Aesthor | "We ALL know Jesus doesn't play PWI. He may have suffered a lot for humanity, but he'd NEVER punish himself this way." -Abstractive | "I approve of bananas." -SashaGray0 -
It's not really worth it to argue this point is it? Clerics DD and Clerics healing, we're support all around. Our Debuffs rock, and were given to us for a reason. We use them when we can. We're the one class that has to make a big judgement call and roll with it.
In the end choosing to play a cleric is really frustrating, but really rewarding. There are days when you come across idiots that blame you for everything, but there are also days you come across people who are excited...if not completely floored at the fact you kept them alive through a sea of mobs and bosses.
It's a unique calling, and one I hope the OP stays with. It can be rewarding after you learn to tune out the QQing.DREAMWEAVER
Segomo - Lvl100 - Cleric
Mictain - Lvl91 - Psychic
Eros_Nyx - Lvl68 - Veno (o.O?)
Magic is in my blood, take it away and what am I left with? It is my crutch and my sword, my life and eventually...my death.0 -
I may be lvl 39 only, but I've done it all soloing. Occasionally I heal/buff others around me and most skills are maxed out for my lvl, but I'm enjoying the solo road.
So, you can be a DD cleric as a solo grinder. But once you get into parties, all they expect from you is to heal.0 -
Cenire - Sanctuary wrote: »But once you get into parties, all they expect from you is to heal.
Easier than being a Sin/BM nowadays. I'm expected to be 4.0 aps or higher. When they see my sage fairy, I'm insta-kicked out of squads, lmao.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Dysk is my tasty chimichanga.
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Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »Easier than being a Sin/BM nowadays. I'm expected to be 4.0 aps or higher. When they see my sage fairy, I'm insta-kicked out of squads, lmao.
lol not for long, my sin friend recently went sage =p its just a rumor for now but may happen ;o the aps reduction 3.33 with class patch[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
The greatest danger for most of us
is not that our aim is too high
and we miss it
but that it's too low and
we reach it.
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Healladiin - Harshlands wrote: »Don't misinterpret this. If you put your mind to it you'll be a good DD cleric. You'll be able to solo TT and other bh's pretty easily.
Golgatha because of his DD skills is good at Pk and and PVE. And he's not fail because of how much he DD's. There's a problem with going DD though as a cleric. Full Battle clerics just aren't in demand.
The reason Golgatha was laughed out of FCC and Nirvana was because he's only good at being a DD. It's not bad to be a DD as a cleric. It's just that in squad situations a cleric is demanded to do something that is frustrating, boring, and requires a LOT of patience. It's called HEALING. It's called watching the boss WHILE spamming IHB to CHECK who has aggro.
Golgatha is not good at this. Be CAREFUL as you level up and hit the 90's that you constantly keep your healing skills (macro management, IHB spamming, debuffing the boss) sharp so that you dont' lose those skills. Golgatha likely got to 100 by doing his bh89 and FCC. REPEATEDLY
But what I believe happened to Golgatha is that as he realized that he could solo bh89 eden and that he could DEAL DAMAGE like a STEROID enhanced Lineman and steal aggro from lvl 97 bm's that shouldn't have lost aggro to a "cleric". I've been in squad with him while he's been farming bh89 eden and I've seen him hold aggro as well as any psy,wizzy,veno in there.
Don't Lose your healing skills as you hit high lvl's and start soloing everything but bh 99. My faction leader hates all the 100's clerics on the server and calls them fail because they dont' keep track of who has aggro and in Nirvana as a sin it's either him or the BM who grab aggro.
Another faction mate of mine (Theoclese, lvl 100 psy) in STARS says that the 90's clerics who run FCC 90+ with him don't have or know that with maxed purify on the bubble boss they can effectively keep the enitre squad purified whilst healing the tank so long as they dont' get sleeped or bubbled themselves.
The moral of the story......Develop GOOD healing skills in whatever way possible and keep those skills sharp by running in bh's and fcc runs (when you hit 80). Dont' get stuck in a rut soloing. If you become a soloing cleric you will NOT find yourself in squads for FCC or your bh's when you want to level and trust me you WANT to lvl as a cleric to go from being a fail caster that most people only need for heals and rez to a class that can become a nightmare in both pvp and pve.
I see nubs like this alll the time. First of all DD Cleric=FAIL. Not because theyr not good its because thats wat the class was made for. Clerics have about 4 attacks i think then the rest are Purely seals and Supportive heals and skill. Does This say OH CLERIC IS A DD CLASS ofcourse not u moron. Im not saying that Clerics are good DDs, they are but they should stick to supporting the squad . A cleric should attack once he secures that the Tank is stack with IH and the squad is heal with Aoe Heal, That way he/she will never steal aggro.<-thats common sense im not even a cleric. Therefore Golgotha is a FAil. and dont tell me "GO PLAY A CLERIC AND SEE HOW HARD IT IS QQ" i have and its easy, its definitely not rocket science. Stack IH+chromatic healing beam DAM That must be easier then being a Sin b:shocked0
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