Just a few questions..

Venomincer - Sanctuary
Venomincer - Sanctuary Posts: 57 Arc User
edited December 2010 in Venomancer
I got a herc about a week ago and got a few questions for anyone that might know...

(1) I heard Lunar is a veno's playground... is this true? And if it is, how do you get in Lunar on solo mode? also what level to be able to tank all the boss's?

(2) Is it quicker to AOE grind or to kill one at a time?
If AOE grinding is quicker, what are the tricks to doing it quick, and not stealing aggro from herc, or which mobs are best to aoe grind on (for good exp and coin)?
(My herc has bash instead of Pounce)

(3) Can I tank Pyro (not nob or pole), Brig, Styg or Linus at my level?

(4) Also is it possible to solo TT 1-1, 1-2 or 1-3 squad mode without a cleric? or have a cleric tag along?

Thanks for any help! b:pleased
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  • Mauntille - Heavens Tear
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Venomincer - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I got a herc about a week ago and got a few questions for anyone that might know...

    (1) I heard Lunar is a veno's playground... is this true? And if it is, how do you get in Lunar on solo mode? also what level to be able to tank all the boss's?

    Lunar solo is pretty easy, although don't expect gold mats or essences there. To open it, you need an Essence of Nature, craftable from the forges there or from tokens.
    Venomincer - Sanctuary wrote: »
    (2) Is it quicker to AOE grind or to kill one at a time?
    If AOE grinding is quicker, what are the tricks to doing it quick, and not stealing aggro from herc, or which mobs are best to aoe grind on (for good exp and coin)?
    (My herc has bash instead of Pounce)

    This depends on the mobs. AOE tends to be faster if the mobs go down in ~2-3 hits (from you). Have the herc run around and tag most of them to round them up and then knock 'em dead.

    If the mobs take awhile longer to kill, and you still want to AOE, make sure he's tagged them all, preferably bashed them all. I found it easier to focus the herc on inc life/inc def mobs as it'll be easier for you to pull aggro from him, but definitely have him switch targets a few times in a big pull. If you want something to focus your AOEs on, try either inc life or inc mag resist so you won't have to pick a new target if it dies before the rest of the group.

    Some good grind mobs are OHT maps, heaven/hell, decaying cleavehands, and goethes.
    Venomincer - Sanctuary wrote: »
    (3) Can I tank Pyro (not nob or pole), Brig, Styg or Linus at my level?

    You should be able to solo pyro, brig, styg, and linus. Be a little careful pulling styg as he hurts quite a bit more than the others.

    If you play your cards right, nob is soloable at level 87 (requires very high channel, very high m.attack, and cancelling skills on your genie.
    Venomincer - Sanctuary wrote: »
    (4) Also is it possible to solo TT 1-1, 1-2 or 1-3 squad mode without a cleric? or have a cleric tag along?

    1-1 and 1-2 you shouldn't have any trouble with. I'd try Drummer and Soul Banisher in 1-2 to gauge whether or not you're ready to take on 1-3 or not yet. 1-3 may take awhile longer to solo; I was able to solo 3-1 much earlier than 1-3, so you may want to test a couple bosses in there as well. If you're worried about it, you may want to have a cleric tag along. If for no other reason, they can help DD. Fights will be long at your level. All of 2-1 minus wurlord should be doable as well.

    Oh, and cleric + soul transfusion = endless free mana. :D
    Venomincer - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Thanks for any help! b:pleased

    Anytime. :)
  • Venomincer - Sanctuary
    Venomincer - Sanctuary Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Thank you for all that info! Will come in handy... but I forgot to ask one thing
    Do the Lunar boss's AOE or mobs aoe? Or should I take a cleric?
    Or can you recommend some apothecary stuff I should take if I cant get a cleric?
    Also, roughly how much money can you make from doing Lunar's? I see people selling essences and stuff from there but I'm not sure how much you can get from a run.

    Thanks again :D
  • AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Oh, and cleric + soul transfusion = endless free mana. :D

    Not for the cleric it aint... b:surrender

    But other than that, what she said sounds good.

    Just go out and poke stuff you think you wanna be able to handle. thats how i went about doing it. Ofcourse, only did that with the security of GA's or when i JUST lvled.
    x.x

    Yeah, i was idiot thinking i could take harpy once i got a herc. b:avoidb:laugh
    had fun finding such stuff out tho.
    But then again, thats what you prefer.

    I just like to go kamikaze and see what i manage *shrugs*
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  • Mauntille - Heavens Tear
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    In solo mode, the bosses won't do anything special. It's the standard attack and heal as if you're fighting Chientin in 1-X. They won't drop gold mats or essences, only fragments and crystals, which don't sell for a whole lot. The mobs will also drop a fragment or two, on occasion.

    The mobs will be different depending on which vallies you go through. Each run you'll go through 3 valleys, starting with the valley of your choice, going through a second valley, and always ending in Cognitum. It's been awhile, so I don't remember exactly which valley maps to which element, but here's what I remember off hand:

    Humorum [pretty sure this is the one where the door just disappears and you walk in]
    Easy mobs - some are ranged, but nothing kites.

    Imbrium [wood valley]
    I usually don't do this valley. I don't think there was a reason not to though. Mobs will poison your herc, stow him if there are too many stacked to purify (between mobs, ofc). Felt similar to eden. There may be some florafang priestess princess whatever type mobs too that will kite; don't stun them after they stop or they'll just run more. (I don't remember if they kite, I may just be thinking of Eden.)

    Smythii [starts with 2 bridges crossing a small lake]
    This one sucks if you don't have great defense/hp. There are mini-wurlord type mobs and other mobs that look a little like a metal peacock. Both of these aoe. Lure one at a time, take it slow, bring a cleric if you can, pot/apoth. Good apoth are the inc regen pots and HoT pots. I usually get this as my second valley. ._.

    Cognitum [phys]
    Move towards the wall as soon as you port in. The mobs will walk to the spawn point and aggro on you which can be quite painful if your p.def is low. Other than that, reflect the herc and aoe.

    I don't remember if I'm forgetting another valley or if the mobs are in Smythii, but there are some fire based tower like mobs. Let the herc smack them around and then call him back and finish them off at range. They blow up.

    To be honest, I wouldn't run lunar solo for money. The cash drops only drop in squad mode and it'll take a long time at your level. The first couple trips it took me about an hour each valley to clear mobs and take out the boss. It's not really hard, just time consuming for minimal returns. I'd recommend it only if you're farming your own lunar armor and you just want the fragments/crystals for forging and reforging.

    I can't really talk about squad mode, as I haven't done it since it's been revamped. There is however, a guide that talks about it here: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=623031
    Can't verify the info myself, but from the comments it seems like most people agree with what's said.
  • Mauntille - Heavens Tear
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Not for the cleric it aint... b:surrender

    lol true. My cleric gets to meditate when I TT so there's still minimal pottage. :D

    Curious as to how Demon Ironheart is going to influence this. b:sin
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just go out and poke stuff you think you wanna be able to handle. thats how i went about doing it. Ofcourse, only did that with the security of GA's or when i JUST lvled.
    x.x

    Very true. What I wrote was but a small sampling and what works for one person may not work for another. :)
  • Venomincer - Sanctuary
    Venomincer - Sanctuary Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I tried going in but I cant? I got the essence of nature thingy... is there a pre-quest?

    But if it doesn't seem worth running for money I guess I'll try something else lol
    Maybe try to get a solo TT squad lol

    Thanks again for all the info :)
  • Mauntille - Heavens Tear
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    There's probably a minimum level requirement. (Don't remember the number.) If you're still interested in running it, you can have a higher level friend open it for you.

    You may also want to look into running through Eden (demon fb89). Get your m.attack and channel up and you'll be able to solo the whole thing by 89. You may be able to kill 1k Year Spirit and Ninetails already, but Phlebo will still be out of your reach. Mobs will drop Apoc. Pages as well, which will help if there are still 79 skills you want to get.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Venomincer - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I tried going in but I cant? I got the essence of nature thingy... is there a pre-quest?

    But if it doesn't seem worth running for money I guess I'll try something else lol

    You have to be 85 to open Lunar.

    And no...it's not worth it unless you're just missing a few frags/crystals or want to get your class boss card.
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  • AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lol true. My cleric gets to meditate when I TT so there's still minimal pottage. :D

    Curious as to how Demon Ironheart is going to influence this. b:sin

    Very true. What I wrote was but a small sampling and what works for one person may not work for another. :)

    Yup, i know. was just being a smart *** XP
    And yeah, adding to yours that it's another possability ^-^
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    There's probably a minimum level requirement. (Don't remember the number.) If you're still interested in running it, you can have a higher level friend open it for you.

    You may also want to look into running through Eden (demon fb89). Get your m.attack and channel up and you'll be able to solo the whole thing by 89. You may be able to kill 1k Year Spirit and Ninetails already, but Phlebo will still be out of your reach. Mobs will drop Apoc. Pages as well, which will help if there are still 79 skills you want to get.


    The Squad Lunar mode is hardly worth it in my opinion. ( if your wanting to solo it, that is )
    Me and husband tried it after we got help from some people to open it for us.

    safe to say after a casualty death here and there, me glitching and him disconnecting, we reached the first boss and got horribly obliterated.
    whether this is because we choose one of the meanest valleys to start in or something else.
    but we tried nearly all we could till the timer ran out and eventually read the guide to conclude that the boss we tried to do even took down awesomesauce barbs, one shot my herc, me included and needed max range + archer to beat.

    Eden seems like a good one too indeed.
    Apoc pages + if your lucky bosses will drop a book ! yay
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  • Annapurna - Raging Tide
    Annapurna - Raging Tide Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Venomincer - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I got a herc about a week ago and got a few questions for anyone that might know...

    (1) I heard Lunar is a veno's playground... is this true? And if it is, how do you get in Lunar on solo mode? also what level to be able to tank all the boss's?

    (2) Is it quicker to AOE grind or to kill one at a time?
    If AOE grinding is quicker, what are the tricks to doing it quick, and not stealing aggro from herc, or which mobs are best to aoe grind on (for good exp and coin)?
    (My herc has bash instead of Pounce)

    (3) Can I tank Pyro (not nob or pole), Brig, Styg or Linus at my level?

    (4) Also is it possible to solo TT 1-1, 1-2 or 1-3 squad mode without a cleric? or have a cleric tag along?

    Thanks for any help! b:pleased

    1. lunar solo mode... no too expensive drop within
    2. hit a each mob a several times by herc, then you can use an aoe skills
    3. Pyro, Nob, Serpentrex, Turtle_in_69, all 79 bosses (your lvl is 85, right?)
    4. tt1-1,1-2,1-3 squad modes - are possibble except LoP and Soulbanisher(you can kill him in 1-1 only)
  • Mauntille - Heavens Tear
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Annapurna - Raging Tide wrote: »
    4. tt1-1,1-2,1-3 squad modes - are possibble except LoP and Soulbanisher(you can kill him in 1-1 only)

    1-2 SB and Drum weren't too bad, iirc. Definitely have your p.def up, bramble yourself, and do it in fox though if you're struggling.

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