barrens python offense

Dolophonos - Raging Tide
Dolophonos - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
edited December 2010 in General Discussion
looking for insight as to how these mobs are dealing over 1100 dmg in one hit. not every one does it, but it kills me often enough to investigate so i can prevent it. pwdatabase says max physical is 407 dmg and max magical is 570 dmg. am i getting critted? i dont think i remember any other mobs critting, and the ones doing it to me do not have increased attack or increased magic and do it more than just once in an encounter. b:beatenupb:puzzledb:irritated
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  • Shadowfire - Dreamweaver
    Shadowfire - Dreamweaver Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    If you're a sin, you're probably hitting ones that cast bramble on themselves, which reflects damage back.
  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Sac assault?
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  • Dolophonos - Raging Tide
    Dolophonos - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    that makes sense, trying to sleep them on first hit. is it a 50% reflect for bramble?
  • Naivety - Harshlands
    Naivety - Harshlands Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Dolophonos - Raging Tide wrote: »
    looking for insight as to how these mobs are dealing over 1100 dmg in one hit. not every one does it, but it kills me often enough to investigate so i can prevent it. pwdatabase says max physical is 407 dmg and max magical is 570 dmg. am i getting critted? i dont think i remember any other mobs critting, and the ones doing it to me do not have increased attack or increased magic and do it more than just once in an encounter. b:beatenupb:puzzledb:irritated

    Consider your base physical attack (On the "C" screen) and then think of how much you hit with your skills. You should be able to work it out from there. If not, someone will post you a tasty calculation soon enough.
  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Ugh, those things are horrible for any melee class. Worst for sins, though.

    What you're experiencing, is mob bramble.

    You should already know what bramble does, but if you don't, it takes a certain % of the melee damage you deal, and deals it back to you in physical damage. I'm pretty sure the reflect % of those mobs are only around 50%, maybe a little more.

    That 50% wouldn't be too bad if it was on a player in a duel, since your damage is reduced by 75%, but against mobs, that 50% is much more significant, since your damage against them is much more significant.


    Just be really careful when you see the snake completely stop attacking for a second, it usually means they're about to bramble, and you need to kite them for a bit until it wears out.
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  • Dolophonos - Raging Tide
    Dolophonos - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    thanks for the fast responses, 50% seems right. i will watch the pause in their action. preciate the advice and info folks.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I know of only 2 mobs that cast bramble. 10 points for whoever knows the second one.
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  • Dolophonos - Raging Tide
    Dolophonos - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    whatever it is, tell them both that i hate them b:laugh
  • Dolophonos - Raging Tide
    Dolophonos - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    sleepcat wrote: »
    Sac assault?

    not sac assault, forgot to mention that one, but thanks anyway.
  • Shadowfire - Dreamweaver
    Shadowfire - Dreamweaver Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I know of only 2 mobs that cast bramble. 10 points for whoever knows the second one.

    Quilhog king?
  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Shadowfire - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Quilhog king?

    The quillhogs at Broken Bow Bluff do it too.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Ohh **** 3 mobs D:

    Bahh never mind me.. I only became a melee character at level 101 b:chuckle
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Lol those phythons are OP. I remember poking one on my barb, then immidiately having to stop when it brambled.... then watching as it gave itself both an attack speed buff AND an attack power buff and started whacking away at me. b:shocked
  • Anri_Rose - Archosaur
    Anri_Rose - Archosaur Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    ask a mage for help , we usualy arent doing anything since ya know, were a dead class supposedly :P
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  • Alphae - Lost City
    Alphae - Lost City Posts: 1,512 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I know of only 2 mobs that cast bramble. 10 points for whoever knows the second one.

    Quillhog Demonblades, northeast of Town of Arrivals. b:pleased
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  • XEmpressX - Heavens Tear
    XEmpressX - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Anri_Rose - Archosaur wrote: »
    ask a mage for help , we usualy arent doing anything since ya know, were a dead class supposedly :P

    lol, ppl QQing over having a couple of tricky mobs to kill. Even Seph saying they are OP b:chuckle
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    The melee snakes you can kite, the magic ones will start to stack poison if you move away, making them very annoying.

    You kind of have to stun/sleep and stand at melee range until the buffs run out.
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