Dueling in PvE

CritCat - Archosaur
CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
edited December 2010 in Arigora Colosseum
I was wondering, why do people call me a noob for using every skill, edge, and ability to beat them in a duel? They go and say that I used my genie or stealthed, when I did that to prevent from losing. All I care about is coming out saying I won, and they try to say I cheated in some way, shape, form or fashion, it sort of makes me mad that they hold back and didn't do what I would, and it continues until they keep losing and go away, or I get bored and teleport to do something.

I mean seriously, it's not cheating if I use what I have to win.
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  • revelution
    revelution Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    i guess most people see things like potions and genies as cheating because they're outside advantages that have no relation to your character's skills and abilities

    on a side note, i got blamed for using chi attacks(attacks that use chi) on raging tide
  • Galox - Heavens Tear
    Galox - Heavens Tear Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I've got called a cheat for using Sutra in duels before..

    But, generally, I'd say duels are No Genie/Apoth items, but you may wish to clarify that with your opponent before you start the duel.
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  • Maisha - Dreamweaver
    Maisha - Dreamweaver Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    someone once told me that clerics healing themselves in a duel are considered as a cheat, and that "kiting" is also a cheat, but really, if it's necessary, do a re-duel with stated rules if that becomes an issue. All in all, it's a game and try to have as much fun as you can :)
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  • Jellytoast - Sanctuary
    Jellytoast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Maisha - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    someone once told me that clerics healing themselves in a duel are considered as a cheat, and that "kiting" is also a cheat, but really, if it's necessary, do a re-duel with stated rules if that becomes an issue. All in all, it's a game and try to have as much fun as you can :)

    If kiting and healing is cheating then clerics would hardly ever win duels, lol.
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  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    But sure, I think it's sort of even if I can use Double spark against a HA class because of their insane HP. I dueled a barb in level 60 Rank armor and lost twice in a straight up fight, I dueled them again and used stealth/genie/everything and won, and they QQ over how they lost and said I cheated

    They had TT60 Axes too, hit like a freight train.
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  • Jellytoast - Sanctuary
    Jellytoast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    CritCat - Archosaur wrote: »
    But sure, I think it's sort of even if I can use Double spark against a HA class because of their insane HP. I dueled a barb in level 60 Rank armor and lost twice in a straight up fight, I dueled them again and used stealth/genie/everything and won, and they QQ over how they lost and said I cheated

    They had TT60 Axes too, hit like a freight train.


    Meh, I don't consider that cheating. o_O I use triple sparks and heals and everything. I don't use my genie since I don't have anything there worth using in pvp, and apoth pots I'm not going to waste for pvp. :)
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    People QQ about everything, but there is no reason to hold back. I use hp pots because its cheaper than a charm tick. You wouldn't believe how many people whine and complain about stuff like that.
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  • CuteButEvil - Harshlands
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    One of the many reasons I hate dueling lol. Everybody has different ideas of what's allowed in duels.
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  • Niteshadows - Harshlands
    Niteshadows - Harshlands Posts: 583 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    open pk is better and alot more exciting. that's one of the many reasons why i left dreamweaver :b:victory:
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Well generally, genie and pots are considered cheating in duels it's kind of the custom. just skill on skill, any skill u have you can use, but any thing that is an outside pot or genie is considered cheating.

    So if u duel ppl generally they most likely will not use pots or genie, and will consider it unfair advantage if u use them.
    best is to just clarify before dueling. simple.

    lol think about it, how would that duel with the barb have turned out if he had used pots/genie? If he could beat you with just his skill alone vs your skill alone, it means he was probably better than you at dueling, and could probably still beat you if he used pots when you used pots.

    Expect to face a lot of QQing if you continue to go against what is the generally accepted custom for duel without clarifying first wether genie/pots is allowed in duel.

    My reaction when i see ppl use pots/genie just to beat me using my own skill is to show them what happens when i level the playing field by also using pots and genie. They always QQ that they lost anyway. It's not a huge deal to me because i have a fast reaction to use my genie when i see ppl use theirs, but dueling kind of sucks anyway.

    honestly open pvp is much funner. and its not considered cheating to use genie/pots. too bad pk on pve servers is dead lol
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    revelution wrote: »
    on a side note, i got blamed for using chi attacks(attacks that use chi) on raging tide

    roflb:cute
  • Waterfal - Sanctuary
    Waterfal - Sanctuary Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I was once told I shouldn't use a pet O_o cause "that wouldn't be fair"
    In general I don't use pots or genies in duels... if I see opponent does use it I use it too.
    However I usually duel with friends and we state what's allowed or not.

    It's all about having fun, so well sure, I duel friends sometimes without a pet,
    or no using bramble hood, or no amp or no purge or no sparks or whatever.

    It did learn me how to play my char with a "handicap" and it is quite fun to try and see how you can win from a certain class even if you don't have sparks or if your pet gets killed or whatever happens ^^
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  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    When it comes to dueling you should be aware that some classes have huge advantages over others for instance a barb is screwed when he is facing a wizard and a wiz is screwed when he faces a sin. I agree that skills vs skills without genie apo items or pots is what people assume so if you want to have any other form of duel say it before the duel. I mean chi is also a fact that should be taken into account because chi building speed is different between the classes and some classes are a lot stronger when they have some of their chi skills ready.

    For instance if a wizard uses FoW undine sutra he is likely to win the duel but the problem is in a real pvp situation he maybe wont have the 2 sparks another combo like this would be FOW BladeTempest on caster classes. Same goes for all the cool clerics who spam IH on themself before they start the duel. Or an archer using winged shell before .... All these preparations somehow influence the result of a duel. On the other side simply hitting eachother without the use of skills is also stupid because the char with better weapon and better defense will win for sure and DD classes will win here anyway.

    I dont duel sins anymore because if the sin starts invisible and gets the first stun im dead anyway without genie. I also dont like to duel people who are not in my lvl range i mean for some people it might be cool to 1shot others 30 lvl below them but i rather like to have an equal opponent where proper skill use matters

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