Does there have to be a reason?

CuteButEvil - Harshlands
CuteButEvil - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
edited December 2010 in General Discussion
I'm sure I'll get lots of love for this thread. But if you're on a PvP server; does there have to be a reason to kill somebody? I mean....it don't mean I *hate* you if I kill you lol. Maybe I was bored, your faction annoyed me, I wanted to try a skill, I wanted more hours, or a gazillion other reasons. But what if I don't have one? Do I really need to? If you signed up for a PvP server, a little PKing is part of the play.
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  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I guess that " 'cause I wanted to" is a good enough reason for most, lol...

    Which would be why I don't play on a PvP server. XD
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  • CuteButEvil - Harshlands
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    lol that makes perfect sense Katzyn. Like I'd never join a non-PvP server for good. Just not my gameplay style.

    But you get people who like think you must hate them or something lol.
    b:victory
  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands wrote: »
    lol that makes perfect sense Katzyn. Like I'd never join a non-PvP server for good. Just not my gameplay style.

    But you get people who like think you must hate them or something lol.

    I would totally be one of those people, and I'd probably ragequit after about a week of getting PK'd whenever someone felt like killing me. b:chuckle *sticks to her carebear server*
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    There doesn't have to be a reason but I'd never spam anyone anyway. Sometimes it's funny to kill everyone in sight but that's about it. I can understand asking "why are you killing me?" if he's the only one dying there.

    In some games, group PvP is much more common that 1vs1 fights (talking about PvP servers, not just PvE ones even though this char is on Sanct) than on here. If you get killed, getting friends is much easier than here where one nicely geared 100+ player can tank 10 90+ players.
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  • CuteButEvil - Harshlands
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Eh; well, I'm usually blood red around 180 hours xD Which means it shows I probably kill a lot of random people. Yea lol, I'd probably ask too if it was just me in one area with a bunch of people xD Or if like somebody dropped squad and killed me I'd say something.

    (I'm strangely white named at the minute)
    b:victory
  • NiaJade - Harshlands
    NiaJade - Harshlands Posts: 303 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    You really do not have to have a reason, but I ask to be sure I did not do anything to offend anyone. (Why they pked me).

    Generally, when they come back and respond "they were bored".. it's ok. Hope though, they expect me to return the favor when I see them grinding.... ; )
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands wrote: »
    Eh; well, I'm usually blood red around 180 hours xD Which means it shows I probably kill a lot of random people. Yea lol, I'd probably ask too if it was just me in one area with a bunch of people xD Or if like somebody dropped squad and killed me I'd say something.

    (I'm strangely white named at the minute)

    That happened to me one day but I didn't want to ask because I don't want to QQ. b:chuckle

    I still kinda like Sanct PK. I'm friends with all the big factions (there are some exceptions of course) and there aren't that many PKers so I'm good. If I was geared nicely I wouldn't mind being an enemy with someone but I'm oneshot to every 100+ arcane and sadly, will always be so.
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  • CuteButEvil - Harshlands
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Oh lol, I do. I do expect the favor returned Nia. xD Hey, we've ran into each other when you were Blackfox in fact. Fun times b:chuckle
    b:victory
  • Vindrael - Lost City
    Vindrael - Lost City Posts: 165 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I played on Archosaur for about a year, and got bored after reaching end-game. Instances can be fun, chatting with your guildies on vent is fun, but good PvP was only once a week in TW. There were too few people who went white-named there, and with a gang of 100+ sins all nicely geared there, it was impossible to go white-name as a caster.

    On LC, there are a ton of assassins too (it's by far the best PK class) but there are plenty of other classes there as well. Being on a PvP server forces you to build your character differently. I'm a vitality psychic so I have least a glimmer of hope of surviving the initial attack. I'll re-stat later when the gear gets better, but I'd like to think that living on a PvP server leaves everyone battle-scarred and hardened to war. If nothing else, it's great PvP training to take to TW on Arch.
  • Anri_Rose - Archosaur
    Anri_Rose - Archosaur Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    SInce this is about PVP servers this is a good time to ask something ive always wanted to know too.
    As a mage player I tried PVP on my servers but , never on a full PVP server so i was wondering whats it like , at low lvls on a mage Do you get PKed all the time i mean we are sorta like targets and what not :( so whats it like for a mage on that kind of server
    Where have all the mages gone. Long time casting.
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  • Aelo - Harshlands
    Aelo - Harshlands Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Here is what ticks me off the most.

    The level 100 guy who pks the level 30 guy. Unless is defending a faction member/friend I think that kind of pker is not worth any salt.

    Worse off is the level 100 guy who watches you fighting a mob, waits till you have almost killed it then kills you.

    Here is what I respect:

    The level x guy who goes to pk people in range of their level (like +/-10).

    However its a pk server so regardless of what I think as soon as I head outside I'm prepared to get rolled cause I am currently playing a wiz and everyone makes it a point to pk my wiz just because it has easy kill written all over it.
  • Anri_Rose - Archosaur
    Anri_Rose - Archosaur Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    SEEEEE thats exactly how i feel :(
    though just being in PVP mode was exhilerating on my server,
    I can only believe that on a full PVP one it must be hell since like you said we have easy kill written on us.
    V.v we get no respect i swear
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    kinda scared b:shocked
  • Aelo - Harshlands
    Aelo - Harshlands Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    The main pkers I get are sins. Before it used to be the fire birds of bleeding but for much cheaper you can inflict hefty pain on arcanes and feel like you are an accomplished pker. Sad because on my bm they are mostly not half as bold unless its some uber +12 sin proving a point thats already made.
  • Anri_Rose - Archosaur
    Anri_Rose - Archosaur Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    OMG tell me about them, FISH are the reason i stopped going white , :( just too hard to quest and watch my back for sins, on a side topic, I have this feeling mages are being phased out, first the Tideborn are made to kill us and replace us and now that new earthgaurd just looks like MAGE 2.0 to me :(
    anyway I wish i had the guts to run a mage on a pvp server it was a idea of mine at one point but , i just dont have that kind of time so i chose to roll to archo when it came . :(
    Where have all the mages gone. Long time casting.
    Who altered my siggy im
    kinda scared b:shocked
  • CuteButEvil - Harshlands
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    O.o I'm a sin you know lol. But eh, wizzies aren't easy kills if they know what they're doing...

    I'll go after any class and any lvl pretty much.
    b:victory
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Soooo... Why are there even mage classes on PVP servers? Wouldn't you just have a bunch of BM's and Sins running around after a while?

    This is why I went PVE... I had considered a PVP build for my Veno for TW, but now that 5.0 is abundant, and I still don't have a Nix, I probably will just do TW on my BM.
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands wrote: »
    O.o I'm a sin you know lol. But eh, wizzies aren't easy kills if they know what they're doing...

    At her level, wizzies are easy kills for sins. Pre-90 sins can kill most wizards easy.
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  • Lutirica - Harshlands
    Lutirica - Harshlands Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    on a pvp server killing anyone is far game but it does ruin your image to the players who you kill so they might return the favor some day.
    Fail troll of harshlands
  • Ao_Ren - Lost City
    Ao_Ren - Lost City Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I don't mind the random pker but I just HATE the morons that sit somewhere and pk low levels just to be asses or for some stupid reason like "ZOMG you KS'd me when I wasn't even here in the first place! I'm getting on my level 100 main to kos you!"

    Once for no reason, fine.
    Several times for no reason, just plain stupidity in my opinion...
    Once for a stupid reason, kinda stupid.
    Several times for a stupid reason, just... *Facepalmtree*
  • CuteButEvil - Harshlands
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »
    on a pvp server killing anyone is far game but it does ruin your image to the players who you kill so they might return the favor some day.

    I don't mind though at all. I'd find it interesting if a player I killed improved and came back later and fought me again.

    And keep in mind PvPer doesn't necessarily mean I'm mean. I've helped with more than a few bhs I don't have unwined or explained things people didn't get. I have my evil moments, but I'm human. And yea, if you QQ me, I'll be mean. Or laugh.
    b:victory
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    In some games, group PvP is much more common that 1vs1 fights (talking about PvP servers, not just PvE ones even though this char is on Sanct) than on here. If you get killed, getting friends is much easier than here where one nicely geared 100+ player can tank 10 90+ players.

    Most fights on LC aren't 1v1. Group PvP is non-existent on PvE servers from what I have witnessed on HT and Sanc.
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Most fights on LC aren't 1v1. Group PvP is non-existent on PvE servers from what I have witnessed on HT and Sanc.

    You should have been here this week. In the last few days I've seen Vindi vs. Regi fight each other every night (?). Other than that...

    My point is, there are games where PvP is always group PvP. Then again, usually in those games there is no such thing as open map PK or there are only a couple of "factions" you can be in. One example would be a game that is related to the Romance of Three Kingdoms where there are 5 different sides. And no, that game is not made by Wanmei/PWE.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You should have been here this week. In the last few days I've seen Vindi vs. Regi fight each other every night (?). Other than that...

    My point is, there are games where PvP is always group PvP. Then again, usually in those games there is no such thing as open map PK or there are only a couple of "factions" you can be in. One example would be a game that is related to the Romance of Three Kingdoms where there are 5 different sides. And no, that game is not made by Wanmei/PWE.

    Well, I've seen Vindi vs Regi usually just 3-4 on each side at most.

    On LC 2-3 squads vs 2-3 squads daily isn't out of the norm. It's been a while since I've seen more than 20v20 or 30v30-ish or bigger battles, but they do happen. Usually world boss crashes.
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  • CuteButEvil - Harshlands
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You should have been here this week. In the last few days I've seen Vindi vs. Regi fight each other every night (?). Other than that...

    My point is, there are games where PvP is always group PvP. Then again, usually in those games there is no such thing as open map PK or there are only a couple of "factions" you can be in. One example would be a game that is related to the Romance of Three Kingdoms where there are 5 different sides. And no, that game is not made by Wanmei/PWE.

    I've seen both kinds of PvP here on HL. And if somebody says 1vs1, I honor that. Even if it's a fight I know I may lose, I won't suddenly gank because I'm losing.
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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    It's either one I kill you like a reg mob just because your not in my fac and this is a PvP area. Or your a weak *** PKer with a red name *cough*loldoubtitbutlawlsanyways*cough*.
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  • Foxcreature - Harshlands
    Foxcreature - Harshlands Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands wrote: »
    I've seen both kinds of PvP here on HL. And if somebody says 1vs1, I honor that. Even if it's a fight I know I may lose, I won't suddenly gank because I'm losing.

    yea you gotta love 1v1 fights aswell as group vs group, even if you know that you may not win or even will deffinatly lose the fights can still be fun.

    there does not have to be a reason, usually when people ask em why i killed them i just respond with "because ***** happens" then just listem to them rage QQ at me in pm's b:laugh
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  • CuteButEvil - Harshlands
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Foxcreature - Harshlands wrote: »
    yea you gotta love 1v1 fights aswell as group vs group, even if you know that you may not win or even will deffinatly lose the fights can still be fun.

    there does not have to be a reason, usually when people ask em why i killed them i just respond with "because ***** happens" then just listem to them rage QQ at me in pm's b:laugh

    :notices siggie: Like I was fighting MrLlama in Hell the other night, it was fun even though I didn't win and didn't expect to. :P
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  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Life decided to throw you a curb ball and you striked out.
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  • Foxcreature - Harshlands
    Foxcreature - Harshlands Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands wrote: »
    :notices siggie: Like I was fighting MrLlama in Hell the other night, it was fun even though I didn't win and didn't expect to. :P


    lolz yea. fights like that can be fun b:laugh i usually start fights with 9x-10x chars just for lulz
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    CuteButEvil - Harshlands wrote: »
    I'm sure I'll get lots of love for this thread. But if you're on a PvP server; does there have to be a reason to kill somebody? I mean....it don't mean I *hate* you if I kill you lol. Maybe I was bored, your faction annoyed me, I wanted to try a skill, I wanted more hours, or a gazillion other reasons. But what if I don't have one? Do I really need to? If you signed up for a PvP server, a little PKing is part of the play.
    On PVP servers, on PVE servers, people PK for various reasons. Problem is, others like to make up their own ambiguous rules about this, so.. that's why there's so much QQing going on. I don't care for PK in this game but hopefully QQers understand that their QQing only stands to embolden people to kill them because the reaction = movie and popcorn.

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