drop rates are lower than ever!!!

That's randomness for ya... Drop rates have been better for me, but that's just by random chance.

My research shows that droprates have never been altered in PWI's history. In fact, I'm 99% drop rates have remained the same for five years.

That's just crappy luck. Change mob or grinding place. You might luck out. Last time I did I got a Purgatol Document: Saturn on a non-double drop event week.

Today i got a secret letter from a mob while aoeing.First time i ever got one.But other then that you usally get 1 -2 dq's from this many mobs lol.
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Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »

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Idk what I'm looking for, but your characters little avatar picture looks hawt.

what your looking at is me pulling alot of mobs at one time,sometimes i lure about 40 at a time and 2 shot them with aoe.From all that i can get 0 to a couple of dq.If anyone is new to doing this and whitch i do see new cashshopers doing this now for dq points.Its going to take a loooooong time to get your medals this way.So have fun...I bet dev's will take the medals of glory out of the dq rewards when they find out people arent buying them.b:laugh
Also i am selling DQ 10k each if you want to buy mineb:thanks

snusmumru wrote: »

HI, everyone!! Is it just me, or drop rates are really really low on any monsters... I can spend an hour farming and get just 2-3 mats... I get only coins (if that) for the best part. I know that there was the x2 drop rate on thanksgiving weekend, but even before that i had much better drop rate.. Please help I am a bit frustrated.. Thanks for any respond in advance...

Thanks for the further evidence that after a 2x people magically think that 1x becomes more like 0.5x or 0x. You get less drops from 2x to 1x, you want more drops, so are already have a predisposition to think that drops are nerfed even more when you get a string of bad luck in drops.

The drop rate is fine and 1x hasn't changed, and neither has the consistency of whining about drops post-2x.

I been looking all over the forums for the topic i remember this from, but it seems to be gone or i search for the wrong keywords. It was one of the numerous threads about the 20% lowering of DQ prizes, in that thread a GM or a MOD confirmed this to be true (im sry i no longer can prove this).

b:surrender

And yes this has been discussed many times before (been here from the start, as prob many of you have also). Memory will mess things up when flooded (by trolls lol), so Sangodoc will be the person to listen to in this case (i think).

This is not the droprates I am referring to:

Sangodoc wrote: »

See How drop rate is calculated for the exact numbers.

These are the best explanation from the playerbase i could find, about the issue at hand (nr.1 explains exactly what i'm referring to):

1.
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=3674822#post3674822

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Personally I wonder if the devs have set drop-rates to be lower when there's a higher concentration of players online, perhaps in order to prevent the game being overloaded with coin.

I've been testing this a bit lately. 3 dq items and 1 necklace from 100 seaweed thieves at peak time, and dq drops and items every 3-4 mobs off the same 100 early morning. And I've been told thieves have an "amazing drop-rate" so I can't say it's just the mob.
Same on Deathknights. Usually 80k from a 2 hour grind at peak, 250k off peak. And I've done at least 50 OMA's on those guys so I should know

2.
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=3687202#post3687202

vopinguyen wrote: »

I've noticed in the pwidatabase that drop rates of TT mats have been changed b:cryb:cry Giant Beast Armor drop rate is 59% =.=. Last time I checked, it was 79% or somethings.

I am sry that there no longer exist an official statement on the matter, maybe the devs can confirm or maybe they don't comment on such issues I dunno.

ktnxbai

Kilala - Lost City wrote: »

Today i got a secret letter from a mob while aoeing.First time i ever got one.But other then that you usally get 1 -2 dq's from this many mobs lol.
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Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Please fix your "research", happy gaming.

Lunar seems to be different. I've compared the game files from CN (2006-2007), another one around 2008 and then PWI ones (v402) and all the mobs/bosses I checked had their drop rates untouched.

Of course it's possible that the changes were done in somewhere else than in the elements.data so it wouldn't show up in the game files.

Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Incorrect.

Use a previous double drop event during which I was farming lunar as example, before the event, all bosses dropped 5 essences and the last bosses either had a 75% or 50% chance of a gold drop (depending on which boss/gold). During the event week 1, the bosses all dropped 10 essences and the rest held to pretty consistant accuracy on the last bosses rates. Maintenance in the middle of the 2x event, every boss's drops were reduced by 2 (1 if normal drop) and could randomly be replaced by mirages, the last bosses rates were changed to 50% and 25% on the gold mats.

There's plenty examples of this elsewhere.

Please fix your "research", happy gaming.

I don't have enough information about your data above. What was your sample size? What were the exact number of each of the drops on each run, both before and after x2? How did you record and verify the data from all of your runs? The above doesn't sound at all conclusive to me, it just sounds like more useless subjective anecdotal evidence.

I'd really love for one of these people who claim lower drop rates to actually have evidence one of these times, because they never do seem to have it. b:surrender

Kupuntu's evidence is still far more compelling than yours, since it comes straight from the game's data files.

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »

killl 100.000 mobs, put the drops in a spreadsheet and return

Ya, and do this in 1 moment. That's the only way to really prove the drop rates aren't being minapulated from 1 minute, hour, day, week to the next. How about data of a 100.000 mobs a day after a 2x event compared to 100.000 a day before one. I bet you notice a difference.

I didn't farm mobs during the 2x event. I noticed that the drop rate is down by far when I tried to farm a few days afterwards. My brother who is a truck driver and wasn't playing during the 2x drop noticed it as well when he got home.

Not only that. I am only concerned with one specific mob. Basilisk Madtooths. I am level 81 and my brother is level 100. Since I was level 9 and we have AoE'ed this mob with his BM. Only doing my BHs up to level 70, and doing my dailies every day. Other than that we AoE Basilisks.

Two days after the event we both only got 10 DQs per hour. Before the event we were both getting 35-45 of each condensed orbs and fine orbs. As of today each character is getting 15-25 of each.. the number slowly rising.

We kill around 40 to 50 basilisk every 2 minutes. Since we started this he has gotten 63% into level 101 (4.2 million exp). I would say that after doing this for 4 months we understand the fluctuation in good luck vs bad luck per hour from drops off these mobs.

The drop rates are lower..

Edit: Oh and we're both getting less enthusiastic about logging in because of it.

Was doing uni forest mobs for both DQ and wraith spirits and due to my limited experience/samples relative to others' we must be damn near double drops right now.

I've actually done a lot of grinding on my veno (lvl 65), mainly to make money saving for a herc (dont ask, since new packs raised prices i need another 60mill) ....

I get the impression that the drops change for certain times of the day although i havent paid much attention to when.

The other day I was grinding on Acephalid Riders (lvl 66 i think) and made okay (what i thought were probably normal percentages) drops then yesterday I did more and I swear for about 20-30 mobs I got 2 dq drops and some pots.

Then I did some Vampiric Minions (lvl 68 maybe) and after 20 mobs had no drops so i stopped.

Recently i did all the quests around tusk town and the drops seemed okay, plus i grinded on lvl 62-65 mobs south of Villiage of Dreaming Cloud and the drops were okay. Maybe the pwdatabase just needs to be update with the mobs new drop rates if there are some, and times of the day when they are better or worse????

krelianmage wrote: »

just take snowmen as example: now their drop rate has been clearly nerfed.

Other years snowmen droped like 90% of the time chi stones, and sometimes some rare drops like perf stones and mirages. now they drop chi stones less than 50% of the time from what i seen...

Since i dont think they would nerf one mob drop rate individually, my guess is that they nerfed all server drop rate and snowmen drops just reflect that.


But then again, its just my guess.

Snowmen (PWI):

http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mob/13641

Chance of 0 items: 95%
Chance of 3 items: 5%
Droprate is counted # times: 5

The (real) dropchance of most common chi stone: 19.6%

Snowmen (CN):

Just the same.

Snowmen (the most common one you can't mention here):

Just the same.

I cannot open PWI files pre-v402 so I cannot confirm if the drop rates have been nerfed. It is possible and it sure feels like it, but... I need to confirm it first.