Conpensation to people who bought Badges and Chips before price change

Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands
Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands Posts: 127 Arc User
edited December 2010 in General Discussion
Well, yah. title says all.

it seems this hasnt been done yet, at least to me.
frankie STATED they will pay back the money, right?
i know he said like it should be done in a month, but well... just do it asap plz?
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  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    You realize they have a lot of people to refund, yeah? Just be patient.
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I sent frankie a pm a few days somewhat about this compensation.. no response. Was sent like 4 days ago? I wouldn't hold your breath.
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  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    they also have to check the logs of each player that bought zen in between the time of them being put in the CS and then changed, to see who bought them and how many, a lot of work on there side
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  • Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands
    Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Are they seriously doing one by one manually?
    That'd take long as quite lots people bought badge/chip before reduction as it originally was cheap anyways.

    honestly... did anyone get it done?
    Btw, they shouldnt check Zen purchase history, as not everyone charged zen to buy these, ijs.
  • PinkaIicious - Harshlands
    PinkaIicious - Harshlands Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    This dun seem fair. What about those that spammed boxes to get rare aviation or mount and then they put them in cash shop cheap? People dont understand the word SALE?
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands wrote: »
    Btw, they shouldnt check Zen purchase history, as not everyone charged zen to buy these, ijs.

    They are going to refund the people who bought their gold with in-game coins? Wow.
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  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    They are going to refund the people who bought their gold with in-game coins? Wow.

    there's a system to check if you bought x item with gold you obtained through the AH, or gold that you actually bought with CC
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  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    The original time frame for all reimbursements was two weeks from the day of the price drop, and we're sticking with that :)

    Should be December 16th.
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »
    there's a system to check if you bought x item with gold you obtained through the AH, or gold that you actually bought with CC

    I'm not doubting that, I'm just wondering if they really will give people part of their money back if they got gold from Gold Trading.
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    watch out for mails with business lessons frankie D=


    so this is refund for people who charged zen or everyone?
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  • Phrilly - Sanctuary
    Phrilly - Sanctuary Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    PinkaIicious - Harshlands wrote: »
    This dun seem fair. What about those that spammed boxes to get rare aviation or mount and then they put them in cash shop cheap? People dont understand the word SALE?

    Stores do that all the time, both brick and mortar as well as on-line. Remember, we're talking a couple of days here, not weeks or months.
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm not doubting that, I'm just wondering if they really will give people part of their money back if they got gold from Gold Trading.

    Why wouldn't they? It's not like the gold itself came from a mob drop - someone had to pay RL cash for the gold originally...
  • Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands
    Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    They are going to refund the people who bought their gold with in-game coins? Wow.

    Well, as how frankie said in his original post, it seemed to be so.

    if they are actually paying back ONLY for people who charged zen...
    lets see a case:
    person A had 5 gold "bought" through AH and charged Zen.
    A bought badges, say 3 gold worth.
    Should A get refund?


    btw, thx frankie for reply :)
    i'll be waiting for some money to buy more lol
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    btw, frankie didnt say anything about refund on first post so, this makes me wonder, if they changed mind cuz of mass QQ (cs'ers need to say big thx to 'game is dead' trolls) or someone wanted to sue them?
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  • Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands
    Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    He stated they gonna refund money when they announced the emergency maint.
    Before QQ starts obviously.
  • Phrilly - Sanctuary
    Phrilly - Sanctuary Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    btw, frankie didnt say anything about refund on first post so, this makes me wonder, if they changed mind cuz of mass QQ (cs'ers need to say big thx to 'game is dead' trolls) or someone wanted to sue them?

    Actually he did. From the post regarding the emergency maint...
    Due to the timing of this price drop, all players who purchased these items from the PWI Boutique at their current prices will be reimbursed the amount that they would have saved had the items been purchased at the new, lower rate.
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Phrilly - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Actually he did. From the post regarding the emergency maint...

    ahh ok, they got prepared then b:chuckle
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  • Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands
    Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Oh, thx for finding frankie's post.
    you can tell i was lazy.

    this sounds like people who paid with gold from AH will get refund, right?
  • Phrilly - Sanctuary
    Phrilly - Sanctuary Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands wrote: »
    Oh, thx for finding frankie's post.
    you can tell i was lazy.

    this sounds like people who paid with gold from AH will get refund, right?

    It doesn't sound like they're making a distinction between those who paid RL money for the gold and those who bought gold through the AH.
  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Yep, if you bought the items from the boutique, you will be reimbursed. It doesn't matter whether you attained the gold through charging ZEN or using the Gold Trade function.
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    o, thats cool

    will apply to 0.001 server population who bought rep before 2nd sale, but thats better than nothing i suppose
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  • Indiri - Archosaur
    Indiri - Archosaur Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands wrote: »
    Oh, thx for finding frankie's post.
    you can tell i was lazy.

    this sounds like people who paid with gold from AH will get refund, right?

    Yes, they will get a gold refund. This is not a refund of the IRL money so it doesn't matter how you obtained the gold, it's a refund of the gold so gold is credited back to the character.
  • WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    frankieraye wrote: »
    Yep, if you bought the items from the boutique, you will be reimbursed. It doesn't matter whether you attained the gold through charging ZEN or using the Gold Trade function.
    Interesting. While I'm sure it's fine for this case, I wouldn't recommend this policy as a rule for the future.

    A merchant can generate massive buying/selling volumes in a very short time, since you're not actually spending any money but rather you're just cycling through it again and again.

    A merchant could then easily get a "refund" of 5x-25x of their total worth, depending upon their sales volumes, without having actually spent anything.
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Interesting. While I'm sure it's fine for this case, I wouldn't recommend this policy as a rule for the future.

    A merchant can generate massive buying/selling volumes in a very short time, since you're not actually spending any money but rather you're just cycling through it again and again.

    A merchant could then easily get a "refund" of 5x-25x of their total worth, depending upon their sales volumes, without having actually spent anything.

    Never thought of that...

    So if someone decided to merchant with say, chips (for example, even before the maint you were able to make gold mats cheaper than average selling price and sell them off), and went through a large quantity of chips, .... they would probably make back their original coin + profits like any general merchanter.

    Then on top of this, they'd receive a bonus "compensation" on every chip merchanted with.

    Really though, it's a policy they have no choice on. They made the mistake in pricing. Rather than not following the policy in future, they should simply be a little more careful. b:chuckle
  • Showboat - Dreamweaver
    Showboat - Dreamweaver Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Never thought of that...

    So if someone decided to merchant with say, chips (for example, even before the maint you were able to make gold mats cheaper than average selling price and sell them off), and went through a large quantity of chips, .... they would probably make back their original coin + profits like any general merchanter.

    Then on top of this, they'd receive a bonus "compensation" on every chip merchanted with.

    Really though, it's a policy they have no choice on. They made the mistake in pricing. Rather than not following the policy in future, they should simply be a little more careful. b:chuckle

    This seems exactly what I did...even at 2 gold each I was making a great profit off of chips, even when gold was over 800k each (at the time). I think I bought over 60 gold from Gold Trading over the two days chip packs were sold at that price...and I continue to buy gold even now.

    I was elated to hear that they were reimbursing the gold from the price drop. It means that I will finally be able to afford the remaining feathers I need for a nix.

    The sooner they give it out, the sooner I can get my nix b:thanks

    Note: If they had the reduced prices to begin with, I wouldn't have had to buy so much gold to begin with and would have my nix by now b:angry
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    As much as I hate the devs and are suspicious of the staff, give them some time, this stuff has to be done manually and there's no telling how many people they need to check their math, recheck it and send out refunds...
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