Archer Ring Comparison

Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
edited December 2010 in Archer
-- Ring Comparison with Bow --

Build: Neo-Pure Dex Build. Weapon equipped is ☆☆Bow of the Demonhunter. All builds in this section have the same attack speed, so there is no need to list DPS.

NOTE: Attack and Defense Levels are not factored into damage.

☆Seal of Eternal Solitude - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9f71247c167d23f4
Bonuses: Physical Attack +200, Vit +16, Dex +16, Crit +6%
Physical Attack: 8909-13991 - Crit %: 40% - Accuracy: 4242
Avg DPH: 11,450.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 16,030.000

☆Ring of the Heavenly Lord - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=4ad7e9594a2296c6
Bonuses: Physical Attack +220, Crit +4%
Physical Attack: 8815-13788 - Crit %: 37% - Accuracy: 4101
Avg DPH: 11,301.50 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 15,483.055

☆Attendance Ring: Perfect - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=672252af643b697e
Bonuses: Physical Attack +200, Crit +6%, HP +160
Physical Attack: 8717-13691 - Crit %: 39% - Accuracy: 4101
Avg DPH: 11,204.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 15,349.480

☆Ring of Mastadon's Strength - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=b0c0334764132339
Bonuses: Physical Attack +176, Crit +4%, Vit +10, Accuracy +60%
Physical Attack: 8601-13574 - Crit %: 37% - Accuracy: 6338
Avg DPH: 11,087.50 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 15,189.875

☆Sign of Frost: Chaos - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a1cdcb091775a6f1
Bonuses: Physical Attack +194, Magic Resist +400, Crit +6%, Accuracy +100%
Physical Attack: 8689-13662 - Crit %: 39% - Accuracy: 7829
Avg DPH: 11,175.50 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 15,533.945

☆Band from Heaven's Jail w/ Restat - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=af272c1a55497fdf
Bonuses: Physical Attack +266, Dex +28
Physical Attack: 9361-14512 - Crit %: 34% - Accuracy: 4330
Avg DPH: 11,936.50 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 15,994.910

☆☆Sky Cover - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=7496dbf30d17edd6
Bonuses: Physical Attack +228, Accuracy +100%, Attack Level +4, Crit +6%
Physical Attack: 8853-13827 - Crit %: 39% - Accuracy: 7829
Avg DPH: 11,340.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 15,762.600

☆☆General's Badge - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=feaf1b10af7375d3
Bonuses: Physical Attack +250, HP +360, Channeling -12%, Crit +8%
Physical Attack: 8961-13934 - Crit %: 41% - Accuracy: 4938
Avg DPH: 11,447.50 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 16,140.975
NOTE: You can only equip one of these rings. Build has 2 for comparison purposes only.

☆☆Ring of Trauma - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=3e363370c5443a7b
Bonuses: Physical Attack +420, Defense Level +10, Accuracy +100%, Channeling -12%, Crit +6%
Physical Attack: 9786-14759 - Crit %: 39% - Accuracy: 4938
Avg DPH: 12,272.50 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 17,058.775
NOTE: You can only equip one of these rings. Build has 2 for comparison purposes only.

-- Ring Comparison with Fists --

Build: Neo-Pure Dex Build. Weapon equipped is ☆Gorenox Vanity. Using these fists, the build has 5 attacks / sec with Demon Spark. All builds in this section have the same attack speed, so there is no need to list DPS.

NOTE 1: Attack and Defense Levels are not factored into damage.
NOTE 2: Despite the fact that this build can achieve perma-spark, Spark effects are not factored into damage.

☆Seal of Eternal Solitude - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=d309d08f5d4b4b3a
Bonuses: Physical Attack +200, Vit +16, Dex +16, Crit +6%
Physical Attack: 2072-2180 - Crit %: 33% - Accuracy: 3744
Avg DPH: 2,126.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 2,827.580

☆Ring of the Heavenly Lord - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=33a4241da0d6e3d0
Bonuses: Physical Attack +220, Crit +4%
Physical Attack: 2112-2220 - Crit %: 30% - Accuracy: 3616
Avg DPH: 2,166.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 2,815.800

☆Attendance Ring: Perfect - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=69f96cca54d30e12
Bonuses: Physical Attack +200, Crit +6%, HP +160
Physical Attack: 2072-2180 - Crit %: 32% - Accuracy: 3616
Avg DPH: 2,126.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 2,806.320

☆Ring of Mastadon's Strength - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=c77bdc3a16d7a6d6
Bonuses: Physical Attack +176, Crit +4%, Vit +10, Accuracy +60%
Physical Attack: 2024-2132 - Crit %: 30% - Accuracy: 5786
Avg DPH: 2,078.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 2,701.400

☆Sign of Frost: Chaos - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=7f4ec1170405292e
Bonuses: Physical Attack +194, Magic Resist +400, Crit +6%, Accuracy +100%
Physical Attack: 2060-2168 - Crit %: 32% - Accuracy: 7232
Avg DPH: 2,114.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 2,790.480

☆Band from Heaven's Jail w/ Restat - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=054aa97606615864
Bonuses: Physical Attack +266, Dex +28
Physical Attack: 2218-2327 - Crit %: 27% - Accuracy: 3824
Avg DPH: 2,272.50 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 2,886.075

☆☆Sky Cover - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=071f478f9de64682
Bonuses: Physical Attack +228, Accuracy +100%, Attack Level +4, Crit +6%
Physical Attack: 2128-2236 - Crit %: 32% - Accuracy: 7232
Avg DPH: 2,182.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 2,880.240

☆☆General's Badge - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=16b7b47de7ccccaf
Bonuses: Physical Attack +250, HP +360, Channeling -12%, Crit +8%
Physical Attack: 2172-2280 - Crit %: 34% - Accuracy: 3616
Avg DPH: 2,226.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 2,982.840
NOTE: You can only equip one of these rings. Build has 2 for comparison purposes only.

☆☆Ring of Trauma - http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=cde69bc2e015fc9c
Bonuses: Physical Attack +420, Defense Level +10, Accuracy +100%, Channeling -12%, Crit +6%
Physical Attack: 2512-2620 - Crit %: 32% - Accuracy: 7232
Avg DPH: 2,566.00 - Avg DPH w/ Crit: 3,387.120
NOTE: You can only equip one of these rings. Build has 2 for comparison purposes only.
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  • Sanctam - Dreamweaver
    Sanctam - Dreamweaver Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    No replies yet? Jeez, I think the archer community is getting worse.

    Well, here's my question:

    Only having 22% critical with no rings, would it be better to have two Perfect Attendance vs. two Heavenly Lords? I started off with two Heavenly Lords, but obtained one Attendance Ring thinking it was better. Right now having the mix seems to work, but I would switch to two Heavenlys if that was better in the end. According to this guide, it would be, but I don't really know if the hp bonus and defense level amount to much.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Pretty nice... here's some feedback:

    1) Does not factor in the contribution of accuracy to dps (though mobs have very low evasion).
    2) Does not look at effect on mellee dps (5.0 dps is alot of what archers look at for pve these days)
    3) Your stats on the Seal of Eternal Solitude are not maxed while the stats for all the other rings are maxed.
    4) The rings differ alot in refining potention (CoA ring refines for mres, Lunar ring has best pdef, rank ring cannot be refined at all).
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    1) Does not factor in the contribution of accuracy to dps (though mobs have very low evasion).

    I don't know the Accuracy / Evasion formula. If there is one, I suppose I can make a de facto target or something. That looks to beyond for what this is.
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    2) Does not look at effect on mellee dps (5.0 dps is alot of what archers look at for pve these days)

    My initial reaction to this suggestion was, simply, "No." .

    However, since you asked nicely, I will get around to doing this.
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    3) Your stats on the Seal of Eternal Solitude are not maxed while the stats for all the other rings are maxed.

    Dang, I thought I fixed that. I'll get around to it.
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    4) The rings differ alot in refining potention (CoA ring refines for mres, Lunar ring has best pdef, rank ring cannot be refined at all).

    I should add this in.


    My thanx for the suggestions, Lady Asterelle.
  • LonelySpaced - Dreamweaver
    LonelySpaced - Dreamweaver Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    O.o Thanks for this comparison, I had just started looking for which rings would be best to aim for
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  • Sabre - Raging Tide
    Sabre - Raging Tide Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Just adding two more possible contenders to the comparison.


    Sky Cover
    Gained from completing PQ3 Shadowtide at 95+
    First place in your class with yield 6 shattered crystals.
    6 shattered crystals = 1 crystal.
    25 crystals = 25% chance of successful craft
    50 crystals = 50% chance of successful craft
    100 crystals = 75% chance of successful craft
    200 crystals = 100% chance of successful craft


    Ring of Trauma
    Quite possibly the strongest ring, offensively and defensively. If you got an extra $250 left sitting around after getting R8 (during this sale) could always go R9 and get that thing and equip it in tandum with the R8 ring.
  • Cavalieri - Sanctuary
    Cavalieri - Sanctuary Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Sabre - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Ring of Trauma
    Quite possibly the strongest ring, offensively and defensively. If you got an extra $250 left sitting around after getting R8 (during this sale) could always go R9 and get that thing and equip it in tandum with the R8 ring.

    If it works the same as the other rank rings, u probably have to turn in the rank 8 ring to get rank9. I.e. no tandum.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Cavalieri - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If it works the same as the other rank rings, u probably have to turn in the rank 8 ring to get rank9. I.e. no tandum.

    I believe I saw at least one person saying that you do not need to turn in the R8 ring to get R9.
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  • Sabre - Raging Tide
    Sabre - Raging Tide Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Miyake uses R8 and R9 rings in Tandum. 5APS archer on Raging Tide.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Sabre - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Miyake uses R8 and R9 rings in Tandum. 5APS archer on Raging Tide.

    Alt post ftw huh Aku? b:laugh
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Rank 4 armor only comes with 3 sockets.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Rank 4 armor only comes with 3 sockets.

    Wrong thread?
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wrong thread?

    Yeah... I wonder how I failed it that bad.

    And now for something on-topic: why level 105 builds? I know it doesn't change much but wouldn't level 101 builds be better idea?
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yeah... I wonder how I failed it that bad.

    And now for something on-topic: why level 105 builds? I know it doesn't change much but wouldn't level 101 builds be better idea?

    Because at some point, someone is going to ask me to put a level 105 Ring on that list. I'd rather not have to redo all the builds over again.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Sabre - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Just adding two more possible contenders to the comparison.


    Sky Cover
    Gained from completing PQ3 Shadowtide at 95+
    First place in your class with yield 6 shattered crystals.
    6 shattered crystals = 1 crystal.
    25 crystals = 25% chance of successful craft
    50 crystals = 50% chance of successful craft
    100 crystals = 75% chance of successful craft
    200 crystals = 100% chance of successful craft

    ...

    Those stats are wrong. From the in-game encyclopedia:

    25 crystals = 4% chance of successful craft
    50 crystals = 9% chance of successful craft
    100 crystals = 19% chance of successful craft
    200 crystals = 39% chance of successful craft
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Sanctam - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No replies yet? Jeez, I think the archer community is getting worse.

    Well, here's my question:

    Only having 22% critical with no rings, would it be better to have two Perfect Attendance vs. two Heavenly Lords? I started off with two Heavenly Lords, but obtained one Attendance Ring thinking it was better. Right now having the mix seems to work, but I would switch to two Heavenlys if that was better in the end. According to this guide, it would be, but I don't really know if the hp bonus and defense level amount to much.

    I think you need to specify whether or not you PvP, before meaningful advice can be given to you.

    Also, even if the archer community is getting worse, it pales in comparison to the community within General Discussion.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Those stats are wrong. From the in-game encyclopedia:

    25 crystals = 4% chance of successful craft
    50 crystals = 9% chance of successful craft
    100 crystals = 19% chance of successful craft
    200 crystals = 39% chance of successful craft

    So in practice, that ring isn't worth the time it takes to get.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    - Fixed Seal of Solitude. Damage values were actually correct for max stat ring, but link and Bonus value were incorrect.

    - Added two rings.

    Where can I find an accurate Refine Bonus chart, that shows the correct bonus depending on grade? 30 seconds of searching on the wiki and forums yielded nothing, and I don't trust pwdatabase.com .
  • Andres - Dreamweaver
    Andres - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    If you could please separate them by grade rather than by type, I'd appreciate it. Certain notes worth mentioning like the fact that rank rings don't refine (Don't know about rank 9 though, shouldn't be any different?). Attendance is g9, TT is g11 so are Heavenly Lord rings, CoA and Band are g12 and PQ are g15. So they'll refine for greater numbers as their grade increase (defense wise), while CoA ring will refine for magic defense. Just thought it was worth organizing like that

    I know it's (very) not related but what's your preference when it comes to rings? Crit, mag/phys defenses, phys attack, accuracy, stats? Or better said, what set of rings would you use under what circumstances (5.0, TW, PK). If you think it'd derail the thread too much, I'd love reading what you guys have to say on it and share my own experience :)
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Andres - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If you could please separate them by grade rather than by type, I'd appreciate it.

    It's currently sorted by level requirement.
    Andres - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Certain notes worth mentioning like the fact that rank rings don't refine (Don't know about rank 9 though, shouldn't be any different?). Attendance is g9, TT is g11 so are Heavenly Lord rings, CoA and Band are g12 and PQ are g15. So they'll refine for greater numbers as their grade increase (defense wise), while CoA ring will refine for magic defense. Just thought it was worth organizing like that

    I'm working on that. I need an accurate chart of refinement bonuses based on grade, as I don't trust pwdatabase.com and I couldn't find anything after a brief search.
    Andres - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I know it's (very) not related but what's your preference when it comes to rings? Crit, mag/phys defenses, phys attack, accuracy, stats? Or better said, what set of rings would you use under what circumstances (5.0, TW, PK). If you think it'd derail the thread too much, I'd love reading what you guys have to say on it and share my own experience :)

    It highly depends on what you do (i.e. PvP or not).
  • Andres - Dreamweaver
    Andres - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Is the refinement from PWI Calculator taken from database too? I wouldn't know. But yeah that'd be extremely helpful to my last quetion.

    I am in a PvE server, not a PK fan, so just TW and PvE. I'm demon and can also hit 5.0 base.
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=6656a17dd46ad235 it's my current build unsharded and unrefined.

    Question is really, would there be a better combination for me (besides rank 9 and PQ3 ring. I could never afford/farm those) that would boost my survival in TW/PvE? I have been considering even getting pan gu tome and going back to sage with FC fists (and still hit 5.0 then), but love demon quickshot and stun arrow way too much by now :( Another option is getting a cube neck and use the OHT phys belt, stay demon but do get the FC fists. But then question would still remain, what rings would help my survival the most, while keeping a decent crit and accuracy addons on?

    I tried finding an old thread of defense numbers vs real damage reduction to see when it was better to shard with citrines over garnets/sapphires to help my case, but I can't seem to find it.
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I'm working on that. I need an accurate chart of refinement bonuses based on grade, as I don't trust pwdatabase.com and I couldn't find anything after a brief search.

    Do you trust the in-game encyclopaedia?
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Andres - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I am in a PvE server, not a PK fan, so just TW and PvE. I'm demon and can also hit 5.0 base.
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=6656a17dd46ad235 it's my current build unsharded and unrefined.

    Ah, I cannot give you an informed opinion because I do not participate in the slaying of other heroes.
    Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Do you trust the in-game encyclopaedia?

    Ah, I haven't used that. I'll update this tonight.

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