A Fair...Maybe Just Way to Fix the Rank Issue
Segomo - Dreamweaver
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So, like a lot of players...this issue annoyed me. I think annoy is a tad understatement, but for the sake of argument we'll go with it.
Obviously a lot of players are upset that Wraith Officer Badges can be bought so cheap...(I've yet to hear anyone complain about the Medal of Glory, so lets leave that be for now...)
In the DQ Point System, if we take another item that is both in the Boutique and the DQ Point Reward list...perhaps could we lower the price of the Wraith Badges in the DQ Reward List to match the sale in the Boutique. I am...of course...giving PWI a LOT of faith here that they aren't JUST about money...*fingers crossed*
A Makeover Scroll is worth 2 Gold in the Boutique...and 1000 points in the DQ Reward System
If 2 Gold = 1000 Points, perhaps as a temporary sale (note the word temporary) the Wraith Officer Badges could be reduces to reflect this same equation.
Perhaps AFTER the sale is done, as a sign of good faith to the player base, Wraith Officer Badges can be reduces to the price of Perfect Stones in the DQ Reward System (50 points). They could even call it a "New Years" event if one isn't already planned.
This would allow grinders to have a chance at the Rank 8/9 gear as well, if they could sell a total of 20,000 DQ items (lvl80-90, the appropriate level to start worrying about these Rank items I'd say). Now 20,000 is a lot of DQ items (that's 600,000 points if anyone is curious)...HOWEVER, it would at least give the non-CS players a chance.
I know a lot of that....all of it actually...is very optimistic speak and doesn't reflect reality in multiple senses. It would be nice though wouldn't it?
Obviously a lot of players are upset that Wraith Officer Badges can be bought so cheap...(I've yet to hear anyone complain about the Medal of Glory, so lets leave that be for now...)
In the DQ Point System, if we take another item that is both in the Boutique and the DQ Point Reward list...perhaps could we lower the price of the Wraith Badges in the DQ Reward List to match the sale in the Boutique. I am...of course...giving PWI a LOT of faith here that they aren't JUST about money...*fingers crossed*
A Makeover Scroll is worth 2 Gold in the Boutique...and 1000 points in the DQ Reward System
If 2 Gold = 1000 Points, perhaps as a temporary sale (note the word temporary) the Wraith Officer Badges could be reduces to reflect this same equation.
Perhaps AFTER the sale is done, as a sign of good faith to the player base, Wraith Officer Badges can be reduces to the price of Perfect Stones in the DQ Reward System (50 points). They could even call it a "New Years" event if one isn't already planned.
This would allow grinders to have a chance at the Rank 8/9 gear as well, if they could sell a total of 20,000 DQ items (lvl80-90, the appropriate level to start worrying about these Rank items I'd say). Now 20,000 is a lot of DQ items (that's 600,000 points if anyone is curious)...HOWEVER, it would at least give the non-CS players a chance.
I know a lot of that....all of it actually...is very optimistic speak and doesn't reflect reality in multiple senses. It would be nice though wouldn't it?
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Segomo - Lvl100 - Cleric
Mictain - Lvl91 - Psychic
Eros_Nyx - Lvl68 - Veno (o.O?)
Magic is in my blood, take it away and what am I left with? It is my crutch and my sword, my life and eventually...my death.
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actually, a dq 81-91 item is ~3k? so 20k dq items would be 60mil +dq points. enough to get r8 o:0
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from what i can see the reall issue to why ppl are mad is the inflation of gold price and the fact that this sale is unfair to ppl that are on vacation the entire month of dec for the holidays and do not know about this sale and unfair to the new players that will be joining after dec just to get wtf pwned by everyone wearin rank 8 and rank 9.
the real problem doesnt start till AFTER the sale is over. there will be a HUGE disadvantage to EVERYONE that missed out on this sale. that part of the argument i can relate to. gold prices might go down, but the dmg will still be done to ppl that missed out on this sale. even with gold prices at 1 mil per gold the price of rank 8 ingame is only 72 mil coins. thats pretty ****ing cheap even if u dont cs.
if i came back in like January to find out i missed out on a chance to get rank 8 insanely cheap then i would rage to. so they will really need something to compensate those people because imho thats the only real problem with this sale.0 -
Tsubakey - Heavens Tear wrote: »from what i can see the reall issue to why ppl are mad is the inflation of gold price and the fact that this sale is unfair to ppl that are on vacation the entire month of dec for the holidays and do not know about this sale and unfair to the new players that will be joining after dec just to get wtf pwned by everyone wearin rank 8 and rank 9.
the real problem doesnt start till AFTER the sale is over. there will be a HUGE disadvantage to EVERYONE that missed out on this sale. that part of the argument i can relate to. gold prices might go down, but the dmg will still be done to ppl that missed out on this sale. even with gold prices at 1 mil per gold the price of rank 8 ingame is only 72 mil coins. thats pretty ****ing cheap even if u dont cs.
if i came back in like January to find out i missed out on a chance to get rank 8 insanely cheap then i would rage to. so they will really need something to compensate those people because imho thats the only real problem with this sale.
another sale later i guess. well now that they once did a 90% reduce sale on badges/chips, they HAVE/NEEd to do it frequently like they've been doing with D orb 10-star. cos it's not fair to new ppl starting or ppl who couldnt get the coins fast enough while sale etc.I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender
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Tsubakey - Heavens Tear wrote: »from what i can see the reall issue to why ppl are mad is the inflation of gold price and the fact that this sale is unfair to ppl that are on vacation the entire month of dec for the holidays and do not know about this sale and unfair to the new players that will be joining after dec just to get wtf pwned by everyone wearin rank 8 and rank 9.
the real problem doesnt start till AFTER the sale is over. there will be a HUGE disadvantage to EVERYONE that missed out on this sale. that part of the argument i can relate to. gold prices might go down, but the dmg will still be done to ppl that missed out on this sale. even with gold prices at 1 mil per gold the price of rank 8 ingame is only 72 mil coins. thats pretty ****ing cheap even if u dont cs.
if i came back in like January to find out i missed out on a chance to get rank 8 insanely cheap then i would rage to. so they will really need something to compensate those people because imho thats the only real problem with this sale.
come on, do u really believe that it's not gonna be a regular sale? *points at packs, do etc*
the sale is unfair for people that paid ~800gold (farmed or not) for r8, ~300gold for nirvana g13, ~100gold for lunar etc etc0 -
ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »come on, do u really believe that it's not gonna be a regular sale? *points at packs, do etc*
the sale is unfair for people that paid ~800gold (farmed or not) for r8, ~300gold for nirvana g13, ~100gold for lunar etc etc
and whats wrong with nirvana? for some classes rank 8 is not all that good. nirvy dags for 5.0 sins for example are still the best way to go. sins for example go rank 8 purely for the chest and thats it. it doesnt put u at a insanely huge advantage over ppl with already upgraded nirvana.
but i still dont get the problem with that. you really expect ppl dish out 800$ just to get a set of armor? such an unrealistic price tag is only possible for ppl with DEEP wallets. this sale made it more affordable for ppl that do not have such deep wallets. wat exactly is bad about that other then selfish reasons? no matter how u look at it paying close to 1k usd for something is just ****ing ridiculous for any game.
even WITH this sale the only thing that is realistically affordable is rank 8. rank 9 is close to 2k usd still and none of the heavy CSers are complaining about that because they can afford it. but i call BS because with 2k usd i can get a 50 or 60 inch plasma HDTV with a full stereo system.
sorry bro but i know a rip off when i see one. the dudes that DID pay $800 for rank 8 got ripped off straight up. so it may seem maniacle but its there own fault for paying THAT much money on something that is a OBVIOUS rip off.0 -
Tsubakey - Heavens Tear wrote: »and whats wrong with nirvana? for some classes rank 8 is not all that good. nirvy dags for 5.0 sins for example are still the best way to go. sins for example go rank 8 purely for the chest and thats it. it doesnt put u at a insanely huge advantage over ppl with already upgraded nirvana.
but i still dont get the problem with that. you really expect ppl dish out 800$ just to get a set of armor? such an unrealistic price tag is only possible for ppl with DEEP wallets. this sale made it more affordable for ppl that do not have such deep wallets. wat exactly is bad about that other then selfish reasons? no matter how u look at it paying close to 1k usd for something is just ****ing ridiculous for any game.
even WITH this sale the only thing that is realistically affordable is rank 8. rank 9 is close to 2k usd still and none of the heavy CSers are complaining about that because they can afford it. but i call BS because with 2k usd i can get a 50 or 60 inch plasma HDTV with a full stereo system.
sorry bro but i know a rip off when i see one. the dudes that DID pay $800 for rank 8 got ripped off straight up. so it may seem maniacle but its there own fault for paying THAT much money on something that is a OBVIOUS rip off.
u obviously have no idea either about r8 and people that farmed or what the concept of the value of an item is. our discussion is pointlessb:bye
i hope u get r8, refine it to +12 and the next month they put refined +12 r8 for 7gold. maybe u will understand then0 -
It's actually a very simple issue. Speaking as one of those guys that you pointed out that spent thousands of dollars on this game, our (or mine at least) goal wasn't endgame blahblah. It was to be the target of jealousy from everyone else. Whether it is random nubs that admire my gear, losers that QQ about being pwned, or guildies that treat you like a god, all these things just goes to feed our (or my) childish egos. I say theres about a dozen or so people on the new servers (much more on older servers of course) that fit into this category. Now that people can have the same gears for 1/50 (not sure of the exact measurement) of the cost that you put in, and no-names are sporting the same gears as you are, some ppl just can't take that crush to their egos. Unfortunately, those ppl whose ego were crushed are the same ones that were the main source of the PWE's income. So while PWE spiked a little profit in the short run by getting the larger community to cash shop, in the long run they still screwed themselves over a little imo.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Segomo - Dreamweaver wrote: »Obviously a lot of players are upset that Wraith Officer Badges can be bought so cheap...(I've yet to hear anyone complain about the Medal of Glory, so lets leave that be for now...)
Medals of Glory ARE coming out of the CS this Tuesdays update. This Rep sale was a last minute planned thing, not thought about. They assumed introducing them at the price they did at first would inspire allot of people to go for Rank 8 & 9, but it didn't, so they reduced the cost.
They most proberly forgot about Medals of Glory in the DP system, which made a costly part of R9 about 60% cheaper, and an emergency maintenance again now purely to remove them would cause even more upset.
But for those who want to take advantage of this and are going for Rank 9.
25 Gold = 1 medal of glory
20,000 DP = 1 medal of glory
assume gold is at 900k each, 1 medal of glory would cost 22.5m coin, therefore 1 DP point would be worth 1125 each plus the NPC Value of the item;
20 DQ Value = 24,820 coin
25 DQ Value = 30,805 coin
30 DQ Value = 36,910 coin
35 DQ Value = 43,095 coin
If you can buy DQs of the same point value cheaper then the prices listed above, you're making a saving. the first thing I did when I got on was buy out every DQ from west arch, 35 DP Values selling for 8k each which was 81% cheaper then if people used there coin to buy gold and use that for medals.
The ironic thing about all this, is this system makes DQs around 10x there value, and a good source of income even after they nurfed the DQs, so the GMs are nurfing the nurf by removing medals. b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Wait, rank 8/9 is not an issue... people charge zen or buy gold with coins (therefore demand is rising, more zen is being charged and more gold spent), hmm why would gms want to "fix" this "issue"? I would like your suggestion coming true but... all the rage and QQ is pointless, isn't it?
Anyway:
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Real problems of rep sale:
1) Too good weapons for cheap (a slap in the face of those who got Rank 8/Nirvana pre-sale)
2) Huge price drop of Rank 8/9 (see above)
3) Destroyed Nirvana farming as raptures and uncannies have gone down in price
4) Unfair for same classes as Rank 8 sucks for BMs and barbs compared to what it gives to (most) caster classes and to some extent, for sins and archers.
Fix it and people are happy.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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