Will expansion gear make Rank 9 obsolete?

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Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
edited December 2010 in General Discussion
Think back to 2009. It was before the tideborn, ocean orbs were on sale and packs came out. For the first time tokens made acquiring mass amounts of mysterious chips possible allowing cash shoppers to quickly chip their tt99 gold mats. With the vit gems and ocean orbs everyone was pimping out their TT99 armor and weapons.

Then the expansion hits and everyone has to pimp out a whole new set of gear. With no Chienkuns in sight all those vit gems and refines on the TT99 gear was wasted.

Right before the tideborn expansion PWI got all the cash shoppers into the best gear at the time only for those gears to be obsoleted by Nirvana (without the promised upgrade path).

Could we be seeing the same thing happen again? I admit it is incredibly hard to think of something more powerful than R9 but why else would they make R9 so easily available right before an expansion? I can't help but feel that they are trying to make people waste money again. What do you all think?
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    They going to repeat the trolling cycle once again. b:pleased
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  • Suiryujin - Sanctuary
    Suiryujin - Sanctuary Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    meh, i think its more like they just need more money. their earning is plummeting and they are just trying to juice more money out of a slowly decaying game. probably hoping the new expansion will revive it after a percentage of people leave this game over the sale.
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  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    as greedy as they are now... sounds plausible. And b4 somone flames me for saying that... dont' give me this **** they need all this money they're making every week to pay people and run the servers. P2P games charge like 12 bucks a month..... PWI makes a ***** ton more $.... yet they can't even fix the rubberbanding...... could go on... but won't.

    Edit: ya wait a minute how the hell is their stock plummeting..... the insane amoutn of money people charge on here PER WEEK.. hell there's two people in my NORMAL faction (normal as in we dont' give a rat's **** about PK or TW or w/e) that charge 300 a WEEK. TWO... if this was P2P that'd about cover the entire faction's 12 bucks.... lol (we got a lvl 3 faction... but a **** ton of multiple toons.... only really like 50 peopel in it).
  • LifeHunting - Lost City
    LifeHunting - Lost City Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Think back to 2009. It was before the tideborn, ocean orbs were on sale and packs came out. For the first time tokens made acquiring mass amounts of mysterious chips possible allowing cash shoppers to quickly chip their tt99 gold mats. With the vit gems and ocean orbs everyone was pimping out their TT99 armor and weapons.

    Then the expansion hits and everyone has to pimp out a whole new set of gear. With no Chienkuns in sight all those vit gems and refines on the TT99 gear was wasted.

    Right before the tideborn expansion PWI got all the cash shoppers into the best gear at the time only for those gears to be obsoleted by Nirvana (without the promised upgrade path).

    Could we be seeing the same thing happen again? I admit it is incredibly hard to think of something more powerful than R9 but why else would they make R9 so easily available right before an expansion? I can't help but feel that they are trying to make people waste money again. What do you all think?

    Lol, yeah I remember that xD. Was awesome to watch all the people whine and complain about it.

    But it is a possible chance they are trying to do it again. Cause I still remember how much charge they got done because the guild I was in all the lvl 95+ people sent in tickets about raising their gold purchase cap and spent somewhere around 500-1k each xD
  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I'm thinking OP is right. This really doesn't make sense to do right now unless there's going to be something better coming up soon.
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  • RoidAbuse - Sanctuary
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I actually went to PW-CN site to see if there's any new gears coming out along with the expansion. I found only a special forge that will make g13 gears with random stats but they're not comparable to r9.
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  • ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear
    ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    whocares ill never see rank 9..slim chance on tt99 or nirvana..if i get nirvana it will be for pants ..bout it..i love archers on how they can manage in this game with medium gear lol
  • Tigriss_o - Raging Tide
    Tigriss_o - Raging Tide Posts: 625 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    OP I swear that has to be what they are doing. Everyone is gonna get R9 and then PW is gonna say OH BTW here is some new better stuff for you to work for.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I actually went to PW-CN site to see if there's any new gears coming out along with the expansion. I found only a special forge that will make g13 gears with random stats but they're not comparable to r9.

    I dunno, it seems like there would have to be something that at least beats or is comparable to Nirvana else there is nothing in the expansion for end game players.

    Maybe it will be an upgrade from nirvana gear into G17 or G20 gear...
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  • Conavar - Heavens Tear
    Conavar - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I agree with the OP .. There has to be a plan to why this sale is out .. (Ie: they could have made loads of money by just dropping packs to 30 silver etc ).

    And FW is still a way off to be purposely trying to force people to quit atm lol
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Will expansion gear make Rank 9 obsolete?

    Not exactly. Rank 9 is incredibly OP, however Rank gear, from what I understand, won't be able to get the armor/weapon bonuses you get from holding lands or winning battles.

    Of course, Nirvana was made obsolete for many classes with the cheap Rank 8. The new gear will make both of these obsolete as well.

    Whether or not the new G16 armor/weapons will be better than Rank 9, it's hard to say, but after all the upgrades you will supposedly be able to do, it will probably come out slightly better.
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  • Susylu - Heavens Tear
    Susylu - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,786 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    whocares ill never see rank 9..slim chance on tt99 or nirvana..if i get nirvana it will be for pants ..bout it..i love archers on how they can manage in this game with medium gear lol

    Technically any class can manage this game without any sort of special gear to play the game, especially if you have people you know and play with. it's only when you wanna compete with everyone else that you get left behind.

    Also, maybe PWI needed a little extra money for the staff to buy more Christmas gifts, who knows? b:laugh It is weird seeing so many random people with "bad" gear then a random rank badge and weapon though.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    The real question is, will Asterelle get larger **** for this upcoming expansion?
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  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The real question is, will Asterelle get larger **** for this upcoming expansion?

    Never :)
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  • Pjjj - Sanctuary
    Pjjj - Sanctuary Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    it's not gonna be obsolete, or left behind by better gears of the same kind, it will just not be the end game armor anymore, because when they'll increase the level cap, even of 10/20 lvls only, you'll get new higher lvl armors to farm for, probably some new rank gears also, that's the only plausible explanation for all this; ijs
  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The real question is, will Asterelle get larger **** for this upcoming expansion?

    I hope not...they would burst if they got any bigger. <3

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  • Ahaa - Lost City
    Ahaa - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    i wonder if the chinese devs know what is happening over here

    i am sure this wont happen on the cn servers... hell even pack were special events
  • WraithTanker - Sanctuary
    WraithTanker - Sanctuary Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Ahaa - Lost City wrote: »
    i wonder if the chinese devs know what is happening over here

    i am sure this wont happen on the cn servers... hell even pack were special events


    pretty sure it is illegal in china to sell packs in game. something about children gambling or something. saw it on the forums a while back
  • cybluerr
    cybluerr Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    The new gears in the expansion wont be better than r9. They can be comparable with r8/nirvana due to the "powerful" add ons they come with. (base atk is lower).

    Taken from a previous thread somewhere around here about some Q&A session with the devs in china.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    cybluerr wrote: »
    The new gears in the expansion wont be better than r9. They can be comparable with r8/nirvana due to the "powerful" add ons they come with. (base atk is lower).

    Taken from a previous thread somewhere around here about some Q&A session with the devs in china.

    You're not taking into account the faction base or territory ownership benefits that had been hinted at either.

    From what I understand Rank gears won't get these bonuses, but the G16 armor/weapons, as well as Nirvana and probably TT gear will be able to get. Not sure how that works or if it's just going to be upgrades to existing gear or new modifications, we'll have to wait and see.
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  • cybluerr
    cybluerr Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    You're not taking into account the faction base or territory ownership benefits that had been hinted at either.

    From what I understand Rank gears won't get these bonuses, but the G16 armor/weapons, as well as Nirvana and probably TT gear will be able to get. Not sure how that works or if it's just going to be upgrades to existing gear or new modifications, we'll have to wait and see.

    True. Anyway my point is that those rich enough to blow a few grand on r9 don't have to worry that their money spent will go to waste with the new expansion as it is pretty unlikely the new gears will be better. Those not so rich who bought r8 with 72 gold on the other hand ....
  • WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Could we be seeing the same thing happen again? I admit it is incredibly hard to think of something more powerful than R9 but why else would they make R9 so easily available right before an expansion? I can't help but feel that they are trying to make people waste money again. What do you all think?
    Absolutely. It would be foolish to think otherwise.

    Remember how after each time Anni Packs left there would be much rejoicing about how things were finally going to start getting back to normal, only to have shock and surprise each time they'd come back?

    After 4 or 5 cycles of this it became 100% clear to anybody who was paying attention (and not in denial) what PWI's marketing model is: Keep people thinking that they have to get whatever is on sale RIGHT NOW, then undermine the value of their purchases a few months later by lowering prices even more, and repeat the cycle.

    I won't be buying Rank 9 for exactly this reason. Rank 8 is so cheap that it has broken most of items in the current game, so I'll certainly get that and use it, but Rank 9 is just the bait they're using for the latest batch of suckers.
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  • skysing
    skysing Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    for sure
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Probably yes but... it doesn't matter a whole lot if people rather get Rank 8. In that case, they won't want to buy the mats from the new dungeon, making farming for money pointless and impossible.

    Not to mention that without being able to reach 5aps with that new gear BMs will be underpowered.
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    pretty sure it is illegal in china to sell packs in game. something about children gambling or something. saw it on the forums a while back

    Wrong. Frankie said it's not true and that packs are still sold there.
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  • Healforwimps - Heavens Tear
    Healforwimps - Heavens Tear Posts: 152 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Can't see them making rank9 obsolete so soon...can you imagine the **** storm that would be kicked up if they did?It would make the last few days pale in comparison.
  • WraithTanker - Sanctuary
    WraithTanker - Sanctuary Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Healforwimps - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Can't see them making rank9 obsolete so soon...can you imagine the **** storm that would be kicked up if they did?It would make the last few days pale in comparison.


    I have to agree..

    It isnt like Rank 9 has been in the game for 2 years. It has barely been in this game for 6 months. I doubt that they will bring out something better this quick.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Wrong. Frankie said it's not true and that packs are still sold there.

    Frankie never lies...right?

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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Frankie never lies...right?

    -cough- bringing gold price back down to earth

    My post would probably be deleted if I used the analogy that works the best here. You see, frankie doesn't make any decisions. He was told to say "we're working on it", whether to calm us down or to **** us over. He's the messenger of the evil at worst but definitely not a liar.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    My post would probably be deleted if I used the analogy that works the best here. You see, frankie doesn't make any decisions. He was told to say "we're working on it", whether to calm us down or to **** us over. He's the messenger of the evil at worst but definitely not a liar.

    For starters, 50 silver packs is not a sign that they're trying to bring gold price down to earth.
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    For starters, 50 silver packs is not a sign that they're trying to bring gold price down to earth.

    That has nothing to do with frankie. Frankie never promised anything. He forwarded a message "we are working on it" to us but it is not his fault nothing happened. 99% sure that he also had no idea back then something like this would happen.

    Spoons did the same as frankie, it's just that at his time good things still happened.
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