solo build that doesn't gimp group play?

mortvent
mortvent Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2010 in Cleric
Is there a decent hybrid build that allows a cleric to mainly solo, but yet still do well in groups?

Do know i'll be sticking mainly to robes and magic weapons (wands/swords iirc are the most constant ones, though do like some of the others in looks..)

I think a pure mage build would work, but skills would be more offense trained up instead of mostl the support ones.
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  • Segreta - Sanctuary
    Segreta - Sanctuary Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    lol forgive my rudeness but your Statement doesen't make much sense,a Cleric can be solo-able and be a great support when in squad...if you're talking about skills priority I won't bother too much(Just keep one heal levelled and P.Def buff,plus off course Plume Shoot and Great Cyclone),since you will in the end have all buffs and attack skills maxed in a relatively short time anyway.

    Pure Mag build as well some with + Vit are effective enough against both Physical and Magic mobs(Except those Physical from BHs which hurt quite a lot),its really all about Heal-spamming enough and have a decent Hp so you don't get 2-shotted...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQsyEqKvZuE
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    mortvent wrote: »
    Is there a decent hybrid build that allows a cleric to mainly solo, but yet still do well in groups?

    Do know i'll be sticking mainly to robes and magic weapons (wands/swords iirc are the most constant ones, though do like some of the others in looks..)

    I think a pure mage build would work, but skills would be more offense trained up instead of mostl the support ones.
    the decent hybrid build also will change depending if you have a charm or not.
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  • Healladiin - Harshlands
    Healladiin - Harshlands Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    lol forgive my rudeness but your Statement doesen't make much sense,a Cleric can be solo-able and be a great support when in squad...if you're talking about skills priority I won't bother too much(Just keep one heal levelled and P.Def buff,plus off course Plume Shoot and Great Cyclone),since you will in the end have all buffs and attack skills maxed in a relatively short time anyway.

    Pure Mag build as well some with + Vit are effective enough against both Physical and Magic mobs(Except those Physical from BHs which hurt quite a lot),its really all about Heal-spamming enough and have a decent Hp so you don't get 2-shotted...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQsyEqKvZuE
    Pure Mag Lv.59 Cleric soling two BH39 Bosses AT ONCE lmao(With Only* 2,1k Hp / uncharmed)

    I think you're being a little hard on this guy as he's obviously going through his first real cleric build.
    and seing as you're a high lvl veno I hope he takes what you say with a grain of salt.
    a real hybrid cleric will have a critical strike rate above 4%. A real hybrid cleric build will be able to evade 20%+ of the attacks that come at it from mobs at or below it's level.
    Coming from a REAL hybrid cleric who is actually successfully solo's I put in 8 magic points and one each into dex and vit per two levels. Now your gonna ask me "well what about strength?" Every ten lvl's I look at how much strength I need to equip my chestpiece and then put in ONLY and I will repeat ONLY that much strength. Pure magic builds can say that's fail all they want until they face me in duel or pvp on Harshlands,then We'll see how much a fail build that is until they see me in action in harshlands when they see me hold aggro in bh59 even when there are MULTIPLE SINS in the squad. YES I HAVE tanked bh59 even though "I'm a cleric and I'm only supposed to heal" I held aggro even when there were THREE sins and a 77 bm in the squad and I had the equally kick Axx cleric DUAL_THREAT to back me up. I dps HIGHER then pure magic builds because I have a higher critical strike rate and with rainbowblessing at lvl 9 I can get my critstrike as high as 15% for 9 seconds. So this is a build that REAL HYBRID BUILD solo cleric uses that ACTUALLY solo's.b:byeb:bye
  • Catching - Lost City
    Catching - Lost City Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I have caped VIT at 40 and toke the STR needed for my gear. Aded Dex by mistake so got it to 20.

    Its more about skills. If u want to solo u get skills that makes u abel to solo first.
    Iron Heart
    Well Spring
    Plume Shot
    Cyclone
    Buff's
    Metal Mastery
    Elemental Seal
    Purify
    Some like Plume Shell for Physical mobs.
    For more dam use Thunder

    If u want to AOE its kinda simple
    also Max
    Rasor Feather
    Tempest
    Purify+6,7 is enough mostly but always good to have higer to lower cooldown

    For party
    Revive
    BB (Regeneration Aura)
    Chromoatic Healing Beam

    Now if u noticed its pretty much all skills But get them in the order u like most adn u need to solo. That i swhat I have done so far its it has worked. But stay at ure lvl now nad then to get the Spirit adn coins to catch up with ure skills and gear.

    For gear I would get P-def on necky and belt also try to find gear with P-def stats.
    If u went shards in ure armour go Citrine to increse ure HP. U can also mix Citrine with P-deff (forgot the name).

    BH 59 is easy to solo for clerics. -.-"
    Done that sence lvl 72. Could prob have done it before.
    Only anoying thing is Zimo (metal) and the mobs that Increse attack sped aftert how much dam they have taken.

    Acording to me Veno is PVE char number 1 and Cleric PVE char number 2.

    Halladin: The stat points for u should be 7 Mag 1 Vit 1 STR 1 DEX /10 lvls then.
    I have solo TT1-1 and 1-2 in solo mod as fast as I could enter:P
    I have done most of my bosses Solo.
    I AOE Quest mobs for fun. 12-15 Crag rack boulder (or whatewer the name is) at 83

    Ther is more then 1 Solo Build depending on how u play and what u like to do.
    But the most important thing to rember is HAVE FUN.
  • Meyki - Sanctuary
    Meyki - Sanctuary Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    bragging
    Hmm... But pure magic cleric has easy time to tank fb59 bosses so, what... critstrike..umm, nope, you are wrong. Dexterity critsrike bonus can't make up the damage you get from magic and thats the only damage "advantage" you get from being hybrid. Simple as that. Nothing against hybrid, advantages in pvp are obvious, but hey, don't brag too much about tanking fb59 man b:thanks
  • Jellytoast - Sanctuary
    Jellytoast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I'm a pure mag cleric (well I do have some vit, but everyone I've met does, lol) and I do fine with soloing. I capped my vit at 20 and I keep a mix of citrines and garnets in my gears. Using plume shell and the other 79 shells I can solo nearly anything I need. b:pleased

    Except a full instance on my level, for obvious reasons.
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  • Healladiin - Harshlands
    Healladiin - Harshlands Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Hmm... But pure magic cleric has easy time to tank fb59 bosses so, what... critstrike..umm, nope, you are wrong. Dexterity critsrike bonus can't make up the damage you get from magic and thats the only damage "advantage" you get from being hybrid. Simple as that. Nothing against hybrid, advantages in pvp are obvious, but hey, don't brag too much about tanking fb59 man b:thanks

    Nothing in my original post has the word "bragging" in it, so you quoting me about bragging means misinformation and misrepresentation on your part. So now that I've established that you're a LIAR I'm going to prove that my dexterity critstrike does indeed make up for the damage that I would have gotten from going pure magic. I HELD AGGRO OVER 3 SINS AND A BM DURING THAT BH59. Can pure magic build do that while tanking under the same circumstances? No it can't, because the crits from the sins and bm with a pure magic build cleric tanking wouldn't build the same consistent amount of threat and aggro on ANY bh59 boss. Sure, the sins and bm were critting but my crits were consistent and and LARGER than the crits they were able to pump out. That equals how I held aggro and they didn't steal it.b:bye Oh and by the way, you can't really answer his question about having a solo build that is effective and doesn't gimp group play because you're on the pure magic bandwagon as is evidenced by your untruthful and misrepresentative post.b:laughb:laughI didn't brag about being able to tank bh59 bosses. I posted the name of Cleric who was there heal me through them.
  • Healladiin - Harshlands
    Healladiin - Harshlands Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I have caped VIT at 40 and toke the STR needed for my gear. Aded Dex by mistake so got it to 20.

    Its more about skills. If u want to solo u get skills that makes u abel to solo first.
    Iron Heart
    Well Spring
    Plume Shot
    Cyclone
    Buff's
    Metal Mastery
    Elemental Seal
    Purify
    Some like Plume Shell for Physical mobs.
    For more dam use Thunder

    If u want to AOE its kinda simple
    also Max
    Rasor Feather
    Tempest
    Purify+6,7 is enough mostly but always good to have higer to lower cooldown

    For party
    Revive
    BB (Regeneration Aura)
    Chromoatic Healing Beam

    Now if u noticed its pretty much all skills But get them in the order u like most adn u need to solo. That i swhat I have done so far its it has worked. But stay at ure lvl now nad then to get the Spirit adn coins to catch up with ure skills and gear.

    For gear I would get P-def on necky and belt also try to find gear with P-def stats.
    If u went shards in ure armour go Citrine to increse ure HP. U can also mix Citrine with P-deff (forgot the name).

    BH 59 is easy to solo for clerics. -.-"
    Done that sence lvl 72. Could prob have done it before.
    Only anoying thing is Zimo (metal) and the mobs that Increse attack sped aftert how much dam they have taken.

    Acording to me Veno is PVE char number 1 and Cleric PVE char number 2.

    Halladin: The stat points for u should be 7 Mag 1 Vit 1 STR 1 DEX /10 lvls then.
    I have solo TT1-1 and 1-2 in solo mod as fast as I could enter:P
    I have done most of my bosses Solo.
    I AOE Quest mobs for fun. 12-15 Crag rack boulder (or whatewer the name is) at 83

    Ther is more then 1 Solo Build depending on how u play and what u like to do.
    But the most important thing to rember is HAVE FUN.

    It's Healladiin get it right pleaseb:byeb:bye
    and yes there is more than one solo build and mine works fine for me thank you very much. Have a nice day.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I think you're being a little hard on this guy as he's obviously going through his first real cleric build.
    and seing as you're a high lvl veno I hope he takes what you say with a grain of salt.
    a real hybrid cleric will have a critical strike rate above 4%. A real hybrid cleric build will be able to evade 20%+ of the attacks that come at it from mobs at or below it's level.
    Coming from a REAL hybrid cleric who is actually successfully solo's I put in 8 magic points and one each into dex and vit per two levels. Now your gonna ask me "well what about strength?" Every ten lvl's I look at how much strength I need to equip my chestpiece and then put in ONLY and I will repeat ONLY that much strength. Pure magic builds can say that's fail all they want until they face me in duel or pvp on Harshlands,then We'll see how much a fail build that is until they see me in action in harshlands when they see me hold aggro in bh59 even when there are MULTIPLE SINS in the squad. YES I HAVE tanked bh59 even though "I'm a cleric and I'm only supposed to heal" I held aggro even when there were THREE sins and a 77 bm in the squad and I had the equally kick Axx cleric DUAL_THREAT to back me up. I dps HIGHER then pure magic builds because I have a higher critical strike rate and with rainbowblessing at lvl 9 I can get my critstrike as high as 15% for 9 seconds. So this is a build that REAL HYBRID BUILD solo cleric uses that ACTUALLY solo's.b:byeb:bye

    Dmg multiplier of magic = 150 stat points
    Crit rate = 1% increase. 20 dexterity = 1% crit. So 40 dex = 2% increase in dmg, vs a damage multiplier of about x .27 (40/150). Clearly, adding to magic gives you much more damage then adding to Dex. The reason many wizzie and psychics add to dex to boost their crit rate is because in pk you may only get 2-3 hits kill an opponent before they make it a melee fight. They add to dex in hopes 1 of those 3 hits will be a huge crit that kills their opponent before they get to them.

    Also, we're a a ranged class. Most things we attack will attack us from range, also, almost always with magic type attacks. Magic attacks don't miss. Brag about a 20% evasion rate all you want, for the most part its pointless. Plus, what level mobs are you attacking where 40 dex gives you 20% evasion?

    Also, if you think your 4% crit rate (13 with rainbow blessing!) is the reason you held aggro you then you should assume each sin in that group had around 20% base. It sounds like the real reason you kept aggro is there were two clerics in the group; one was dding and the other had to heal him so he didn't die, so they avoided taking aggro since they weren't stacked because one cleric didn't know how to cleric and preferred to attack. Also, the bosses in fb59 are solable at level 59 for a cleric, nothing to brag about.

    To the OP: LA build is a great solo build and a great pvp build, however your magic attacks and heals will be weaker. I went pure magic (base vit 5, will reset to 3 later) because I play in squads and don't pve. I rarely die, and when I do its usually my own fault and something that having even 75 vit would have saved me from. The only thing a good cleric has to worry about is aoe's and their mistakes. I recommend getting 40-50 vitality early, and then resetting it out later. Just pay attention to the benchmarks of hp you'll need (ie 2.4k minimum for wyvern, 3k minimum for FCC). Good luck.
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