solo BH???

gjfgjkfgkgfjkgfjkgfjkgf · November 2010

can venos solo bh??? and if so can they without herc, i mean bhs. theyre level btw, thanks.

Segreta - Sanctuary · November 2010

1 - Nice account name
2 - Solo-able BHs without an Herc

bh29 - maybe with a ranged pet
bh39 - I did with a GW once at lv.58(All 3 bosses)
bh51 - Fushuma only and maybe Rankar with a strong heal
bh59 - All With a ranged pet or 2 Venos healing one pet
bh69 - Pyro only with a Ranged pet(Did myself once)
bh79 - Stygean only
(All BH's mobs are soloable except maybe some Sac.Assoult of bh79 and plus)

-Rest Unknown,Probably Not Solo-Able without an Herc-

b:bye

SoulWispher - Sanctuary · November 2010

Well not sure if Quingzi is tankable with a ranged pet,I mean,lower level pet heal doesn't have a very short cooldown

Mayfly - Dreamweaver · November 2010

39 is soloable from 53 with a ranged pet.

LenieClarke - Heavens Tear · November 2010

29 gets soloable with a ranged pet eventually, but probably not while you're getting it for your BH quest. it might be soloable with a magic tank pet in time for that, i'm not sure; try a high-4x level antelope, perhaps?

i really should take the time to solo the 39 dungeon before i hit 60. i've sat down to do it more than once, but i always seem to get roped into somebody else's FB/BH39 before i'm to the first boss...

Yindra - Sanctuary · November 2010

LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i really should take the time to solo the 39 dungeon before i hit 60. i've sat down to do it more than once, but i always seem to get roped into somebody else's FB/BH39 before i'm to the first boss...

Well, have fun trying. I might try again eventually, but the first boss (for some definition of "first", I'm still doing the "investigate the powers" quest, don't know whether that's the FB quest as well) had absolutely no problem dusting my Magmite the last time I tried. In such cases it feels like a huge waste of time (although I should probably use Wine the next time) to try again "soon". 83 would be a good level to try, but I'm not sure I'm willing to grind the last few % to hit the 0%. Already done my lvl 82 quests (except for Arch Evil, of course) and upped both pets to 100% during the weekend, that's enough grinding for some time :-)

I do have the hyped "ranged pet" Eldergroth Marksman at low 60s --- still a long way to go catch up. And I have my doubts about that guy --- damage output sucks big time, especially in ranged mode. For levelling I can put him in melee mode which still sucks so I have to do most of the work, but the only reason I'm working on this is to take a look at the "ranged pet" hype... for now, the Marksman has two strengths: low damage and low HP. Not sure why these are considered strengths, though.

The database numbers do not support soloing ability for anything beyond FB39 --- and while these are unreliable, they have only been unreliable in that I can't kill some bosses that I should be able to based on these numbers and the numbers listed for the bosses that I have killed (plus some guesses as to the effect of level differences).

Mayfly - Dreamweaver · November 2010

I have soloed Farren (FB39) at 53 with an underleveled Marksman (might have been as high as 43 at the time), all FB59 bosses and Serpentrex, Pyro and Noxtouch in 69 at 80 with an at level Marksman.

Lenley - Dreamweaver · November 2010

SoulWispher - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well not sure if Quingzi is tankable with a ranged pet,I mean,lower level pet heal doesn't have a very short cooldown

LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »

29 gets soloable with a ranged pet eventually, but probably not while you're getting it for your BH quest. it might be soloable with a magic tank pet in time for that, i'm not sure; try a high-4x level antelope, perhaps?

I soloed my own bh29 at either 48 or 49 with a marksman, but I was just doing it to see if I could. I don't think I even had a wheel when I did it either, I was just using one of the quest rewards around that level. It's extremely hard, though, and unless you're just farming for molds instead of trying to level it's better to just join a squad.

wnight · November 2010

Segreta - Sanctuary wrote: »

1 - Nice account name
2 - Solo-able BHs without an Herc

bh29 - maybe with a ranged pet<-- Glasier/Golem from lvl 54
bh39 - I did with a GW once at lv.58(All 3 bosses)<-- G/Golem from 67+ (safety reasons only)
bh51 - Fushuma only and maybe Rankar with a strong heal <-- All 3 G/Golem from 77+
bh59 - All With a ranged pet or 2 Venos healing one pet<-- G/Glasier from 85+
bh69 - Pyro only with a Ranged pet(Did myself once)<-- G/Golem 90+
bh79 - Stygean only <-- G/Golem ~94+
(All BH's mobs are soloable except maybe some Sac.Assoult of bh79 and plus)

-Rest Unknown,Probably Not Solo-Able without an Herc-

b:bye

P.S Regarding for "Pure" Arcane build. However if your "regular" Tank gets elite buffs it's equall to Herc b:bye

Segreta - Sanctuary · November 2010

wnight wrote: »

Originally Posted by Segreta - Sanctuary
1 - Nice account name
2 - Solo-able BHs without an Herc

bh29 - maybe with a ranged pet<-- Glasier/Golem from lvl 54
bh39 - I did with a GW once at lv.58(All 3 bosses)<-- G/Golem from 67+ (safety reasons only)
bh51 - Fushuma only and maybe Rankar with a strong heal <-- All 3 G/Golem from 77+
bh59 - All With a ranged pet or 2 Venos healing one pet<-- G/Glasier from 85+
bh69 - Pyro only with a Ranged pet(Did myself once)<-- G/Golem 90+
bh79 - Stygean only <-- G/Golem ~94+
(All BH's mobs are soloable except maybe some Sac.Assoult of bh79 and plus)

-Rest Unknown,Probably Not Solo-Able without an Herc-

P.S Regarding for "Pure" Arcane build. However if your "regular" Tank gets elite buffs it's equall to Herc b:bye

Wrong wrong
- bh39 is solable both with Golems and Ranged pet before lv.60 with decent safety
- No no,I did both Fushuma and Rankar before lv.70 not 77,all 3 you mean Wyrven too?,lol no no wrong wrong last time I tried to tank him he killed my lv.88 GW
bh79 - Stygen <- G/Golem 94+ This one made me loooool I tanked Stygen at MY FB79,when I was lv.79(And my Glacial Walker too),he's a cake at short range its half damage

PS im not pure Mag build and still I tanked as stated above at levels stated above I don't knonw where you pick that info lol
b:bye

wnight · November 2010

Segreta - Sanctuary wrote: »

Wrong wrong
- bh39 is solable both with Golems and Ranged pet before lv.60 with decent safety
- No no,I did both Fushuma and Rankar before lv.70 not 77,all 3 you mean Wyrven too?,lol no no wrong wrong last time I tried to tank him he killed my lv.88 GW
bh79 - Stygen <- G/Golem 94+ This one made me loooool I tanked Stygen at MY FB79,when I was lv.79(And my Glacial Walker too),he's a cake at short range its half damage

PS im not pure Mag build and still I tanked as stated above at levels stated above I don't knonw where you pick that info lol
b:bye

Before saying YAP YAP you should think. For your knowledge all that info i stated from my experience.
1.Yes some of BH's could be done earlier but since i did at those levels which i stated in post before, i just was saying what was proven and not by rumors.
2. Learn to read if it says ALL 3 and "Pure" Arcane build it means exactly what it says.Heavy Veno with weapons such as TT lvl 80 can't take out Myriad till Glasier is 82. Idk about LA.

Continue to lol but your reading skills questionable b:bye

Segreta - Sanctuary · December 2010

All info I provided(Except those with"Maybe",and"?"),comes directly from my personal experience they are no rumors

b:bye

Nuku_Nuku - Raging Tide · December 2010

i have glacial walker and the highest i soloed was the first 2 on bh 51.
venos dont make good tanks. well im a pure int build so that is why i can only solo this far.

Krisnda - Lost City · December 2010

No no,I did both Fushuma and Rankar before lv.70 not 77,all 3 you mean Wyrven too?,lol no no wrong wrong last time I tried to tank him he killed my lv.88 GW

?? My Glacial walker is only 87 and it soloed all the bosses in 59, maybe you wern't using tough?

As to the:

bh29 - maybe with a ranged pet<-- Glasier/Golem from lvl 54
bh39 - I did with a GW once at lv.58(All 3 bosses)<-- G/Golem from 67+ (safety reasons only)
bh51 - Fushuma only and maybe Rankar with a strong heal <-- All 3 G/Golem from 77+
bh59 - All With a ranged pet or 2 Venos healing one pet<-- G/Glasier from 85+
bh69 - Pyro only with a Ranged pet(Did myself once)<-- G/Golem 90+
bh79 - Stygean only <-- G/Golem ~94+
(All BH's mobs are soloable except maybe some Sac.Assoult of bh79 and plus)

I think that a GW maybe BH29-51 are easly soloable 20-25 lv above, as for 59-79, i would like to know what kind of range pets are good for this, and at what lv? (+ how the range thing works if possible)

Segreta - Sanctuary · December 2010

Krisnda - Lost City wrote: »

?? My Glacial walker is only 87 and it soloed all the bosses in 59, maybe you wern't using tough?

Wyrven is in bh51 o.O and I don't think Tough could make any difference since his amplify damage is pretty much costant
BH59 not so sure its been a while since last time I tried b:avoid

Krisnda - Lost City · December 2010

Segreta - Sanctuary wrote: »

Wyrven is in bh51 o.O and I don't think Tough could make any difference since his amplify damage is pretty much costant
BH59 not so sure its been a while since last time I tried b:avoid

Oops, ty for the correction, but yes it does help. When cursed, (my GW has over 3k hp) wyvern hits him for about 900-1000 something and when I use tough, it goes down to 700-800 for 30 sec, which helps alot ijs.

Mauntille - Heavens Tear · December 2010

Krisnda - Lost City wrote: »

I think that a GW maybe BH29-51 are easly soloable 20-25 lv above, as for 59-79, i would like to know what kind of range pets are good for this, and at what lv? (+ how the range thing works if possible)

I can't attest to the lowest level that ranged pets can start tanking as I and my pets were overlevelled before I attempted it, but I can give you a bit of advise on how it works.

Ranged tanking essentially the same way as ranged luring. Your pet must have the ability to attack at range and all skills must be deselected. Ranged tanking can be beneficial to tanking as certain bosses will only use magic attacks at range and often enough, the magic attacks are weaker (or at least seem to be weaker as ranged pets I believe tend to have decent to high m.def). It's the same logic that would favor a wiz tank for fb59 drake than a barb or other melee class. The wiz has better m.def and the boss will be using weaker attacks. Note that if you get into melee range, the average wiz will keel over in a slap or two. It's similar to pets, although not as drastic, in my experience.

Ranged pets include cactopods and some eldergoths. The eldergoths tend to be preferred for tanking (and even moreso the marksman over the sharpshooter). Cactopods are generally used for pulling. The more favorable one in high levels being the fb89 eden cactopod.

The general rule of thumbs is that the lower level pets have better stats (so better suited for tanking), and the higher the tame level for ranged pets, the greater their range will be (better suited for pulling). This may mean that a very low level cactopod might be a better ranged tank, but I'm not aware of anyone that's tried it. Since they aren't commonly used, I'd assume that they either break this rule or aren't significantly better to merit the time invested in levelling them.

Krisnda - Lost City · December 2010

Ty for the advice

. I'm probily not going to go lv a lv 1 catapod, but the ones in eden, they can tank 59-79 at my lv? or should i wait till im like 99-100? Only asking because i'm the kind of person who want to help with tanking everything, but i know my GW cant do it all. Thanks again ^^

Mayfly - Dreamweaver · December 2010

I don't know about the Eden cactopods (they're supposed to be squishier than the eldergoths), but the level 41 eldergoth marksman can tank all FB59 bosses, Serpentrex, Noxtouch and Pyro at 80 or before.

Krisnda - Lost City · December 2010

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I don't know about the Eden cactopods (they're supposed to be squishier than the eldergoths), but the level 41 eldergoth marksman can tank all FB59 bosses, Serpentrex, Noxtouch and Pyro at 80 or before.

Meh, but i hate how they look XD, rather have a nice looking plant walking around me lol. But i'll keep that in mind when i wanna solo bh's. Does the range work for other things, like TT, Frost, etc?

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