Coins Glitch

Milyen - Sanctuary
Milyen - Sanctuary Posts: 6 Arc User
edited April 2011 in General Discussion
Please read the bug / glitch below carefully. I do not endorse it, but it has come to my attention of a bug which means the game takes coins from players.

There is no reimbursement from PWI. The coins appear to be lost from the server when this occurs. This has been going on for a while from my research. I confirmed this a few days ago and have attempted to inform the dev..... I think you guys know how quick they respond to bugs / glitches. The coins do seem to re-appear if you closeinventory and re-open the window

Anyway, please forgive me for any spelling mistakes and read the glitch / bug carefully. If you are still not sure contact me via PM here or when I am not afk on Server Sanctuary.

Millions of coins are lost this way every day but there is a way to avoid it if you are carefull. If there is a Moderator who reads this, you may want to bring it to the attention to the DEV team as soon as possible please.


Scenario 1:
Player A is trading something to Player B after a Nirvana run ( or whatever ) they have the trade window open on both players. Player C drops coins to buy an uncanny / rapture or anything you like. Now assume for instance there is a full squad Player D, Player E and Player F.
When Player C drops say 100k for example. Player C, Player D, Player E and Player F get the message of 100k/ 6 split ie. 16.6k. With me so far? Ok now Player A and Player B will not get any coins as they have a trade window up and they lose out on a split of the coins. Where the coins go I have no idea. But this is a bug. In theory it should still split coins to Player A and Player B but it does not. I have verified this several times and can confirm it.
Result : Player A and Player B loses out on coins split. They accuse Player C of cheating or lying. Player C, Player D, Player E and Player F don't know what they are talking about and either ignore or black list them for harassment, etc. Name calling on world chat, in PM's, ill feeling created amongst friends, faction-members and so on... Players lose out and the PWI Server wins as it does not credit the Player A and Player B for coins and the other players are innocently duped into thinking they did the right thing!

Solution :
Never go into trade window after a Nirvana etc run when someone is dropping coins for loot. Wait until coins are dropped, then drop or trade raptures / uncanny or whatever like gold mats from TT, Lunar, etc etc etc

Scenario 2:
Player X is dies while grinding farming etc, this can be anywhere. Player Y is in the same squad with Player X but still alive. Now Player X needs a rezz. Player X or Player Y invites a cleric to the squad so they know location where to come rezz. In this example let us say cleric is Player Z. With me so far? ok now Player Z needs coins to teleport to spot or needs to enter the FB / TT instance to rezz Player X. Understand this so far? ok this is the tricky part where te glitch is. Player Y drops 60k coins so a 3 way split is given to rest of squad. Player Y gets a message received 20k coins. Player Z ( cleric ) gets 20k coins to use to teleport, but the dead corpse player X gets no 20k. The system fails to split the coins 30k each to the alive members. Instead it gives 1/3 to Player Y and Player Z and takes Player X's share.

Result : Player X's share of the coins are lost forever as they are a dead corpse. Player Y and Z assume incorrectly it has been an equal split but this does not occur.

Solution :
Always drop squad for a few seconds and drop coins to allow transfer of coins to other people exclude the dead corpses. This way the server does not glitch / bug and steal your split of the coins. Get the dead playerto be squad leader and reinvite the others back after coin split is done for this situation. But if you dropped coins for a gold mat or such the dead player(s) will not receive a share of the split as the glitch fails to do a proper assignment of the coins.

SUMMARY :

The glitch uses the formula that if you are dead as a corpse waiting a rezz no split of dropped coins goes to you. Or if you have a trade window up with another player, both parties in the trade will lose out on coins. The rest of the squad gets an equal split of coins as though as if everyone was alive. This appears to be a glitch but coins are sometimes being split although you may not get a message. It needs checking by an independant source. If anyone else can check and confirm or deny this I would appreciate it.


Yes, I know it has been going on for a while and yes I figured it out only recently. All I ask is that you be very carefull when splitting coins whilst someone is dead or if someone has a trade window up after a run. Better to wait till everyone is ready. But in theory the coding is in error and can be rectified if the DEV team work on it. One last thing, I really want there to be a dedicated beta server. The patches and glitches are more frequent and you need to test out instances and bugs on a beta / test server before pushing them out to live servers. This is common practice amongst other MMO RPG's and it is good practice.

You have a client base and you need to strive to have good quality assurance measures. All I say is that you are severely lacking in certain areas and need to explore this options not only for PWI but ALL other games you have as part of the PWE franchise.

Regards

Milyen
Post edited by Milyen - Sanctuary on

Comments

  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    You get the coins in inventory, you just dont get the " you got xxxxx" coins message in chat box.
    happened to me alot lol.
    I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender

    102 - Archer - Heartz
  • Milyen - Sanctuary
    Milyen - Sanctuary Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    You get the coins in inventory, you just dont get the " you got xxxxx" coins message in chat box.
    happened to me alot lol.

    Are you sure? I have tested this quite thoroughly over the last few days and I got several people to check it. I will test it again when I get back from work
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Are you sure? I have tested this quite thoroughly over the last few days and I got several people to check it. I will test it again when I get back from work

    Yes...

    And dead people don't get anything because well they are dead, game counts it as if you aren't even in squad...


    Pretty 'amazing' testing there Sherlock...
  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    very sure. tested a while back. and yesterday splits from raps and something. me and another was sure we didnt get splits, nothing appeared in my chat box with coin split except after i got back up alive.

    before run 8,9m coin. dead. back up and 200k+26k coin drop came. i wondered where split from raps was, it was alrdy dropped. i didnt belive that until i saw i had 1m more then when i started run. and the coin appearing on my screen was only 226k form unc, not raps which he dropped coins for while i was dead.
    I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender

    102 - Archer - Heartz
  • Milyen - Sanctuary
    Milyen - Sanctuary Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Can anyone please verify or deny this glitch independant from me please. Run the scenario and test if it is bugged or not please.

    Thank you.
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Can anyone please verify or deny this glitch independant from me please. Run the scenario and test if it is bugged or not please.

    Thank you.

    See
    Yes...

    And dead people don't get anything because well they are dead, game counts it as if you aren't even in squad...


    Pretty 'amazing' testing there Sherlock...

    Tada!
  • Setecha - Lost City
    Setecha - Lost City Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    This glitch occured to me after I had my divorce !
    I had loads of money left before and after i only had half of it left. I then put it in my bank and logged out. The next day I checked my bank and suddenly it had increased a few mil ! I send a ticket to pwi, thinking it was a glitch/hacker, but I thought it was quite strange since a hacker would take it all and not give it back, but they confirmed that it wasn't a hacker. The next day my coins had decreased again with a few mil and so it goes on and on while all I did was pk once in a while with SL on. Sad they can't give it back because I have lost quite an amount of money :( !

    Just wanted to add that to your post :)
  • KageYingZi - Heavens Tear
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Well,all we heard from you is words.Maybe some pictures from your "experiments"?
  • zafs
    zafs Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    See



    Tada!


    I think you misunderstand. He said the split of coins is 3 ways. So if we follow your assumption that dead people get no coins. Then why should the split go 3 ways? It should be a 2 way split, right?
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    zafs wrote: »
    I think you misunderstand. He said the split of coins is 3 ways. So if we follow your assumption that dead people get no coins. Then why should the split go 3 ways? It should be a 2 way split, right?

    Pk some random person, add the to squad, drop 1000 coins with just you and dead person in squad, pick up all 1000 coins, dead person gets nothing

    et voila!
  • assaucein
    assaucein Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    It's Never happened to me. I hope it stays that way, Because Sauce needs his coinage ;)
  • smellslikepigs
    smellslikepigs Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY COINS?????????b:cry I WORKED SO HARD FOR THEM AND NOW I CAN'T BUY MY SKILLS, WTFFFF!!!!!!!!! I HAD 100, 000. OMFG OMFG OMFG
  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Necro thread is necroed
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]I know what your thinking.
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    ah, the days when i still had to work hard for 100k. nowadays i go to put some XP on my pets and end up picking up more than that off the ground just to stave off the boredom.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Heaven's Tear alts: KenLubin, Sou_Hon, JudyCaraco --- level 5x chars.
  • krisnda
    krisnda Posts: 4,655 Community Moderator
    edited April 2011
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