Dragon Bow:Nameless

Elviron - Dreamweaver
Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
edited November 2010 in Archer
Ok being a casual gamer and have no intention of investing in a Heaven Shatterer, is the Dragon Bow:Nameless a good option to go for?

I am currently using a +5 Broadland and a +3 Gorenox:Vaniy as my weapons.

I am a casual player who doesnt make too much money (or have an intention to) nor spends too much time grinding for stuff which obviously does not give a lot of budget to work with b:surrender.

Looking at the weapon comparison charts developed, I see that the Dragon bow:Nameless has better dps potential than other low budget weapons in the lvl99 nirvana-upgradable group. Additionally it also seems easier to make considering it does not require

So am guessing this is a good option for me when I hit that level eventually....

However, I would like the opinions of other experienced archers if there are any other low budget bows that could probably be a better option than this one?
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  • ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear
    ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    ill get it for my archer cause its just simply cheaper to make.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    If you are aiming low, then you can not realistically be thinking of upgrading anything to Nirvana. Thus this bow would probably be your endgame bow. I would just invest in a Heaven Shatterer for that reason.

    Basically you're saying "this bow is 60m, I can't afford that, I'm going to get this other bow that is cheaper but still hoping to upgrade it for 200m+."
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    For casual use, I hear it's good. Keep remaking it until you get two socket. Don't equip the one-socket ones since it'll bind. Just sell the one-socket ones.
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    If you are aiming low, then you can not realistically be thinking of upgrading anything to Nirvana. Thus this bow would probably be your endgame bow. I would just invest in a Heaven Shatterer for that reason.

    Basically you're saying "this bow is 60m, I can't afford that, I'm going to get this other bow that is cheaper but still hoping to upgrade it for 200m+."


    But low level nirvana only needs 100 rapture crystals?

    Meanwhile, 50 million will buy a nice little stack of crystals.

    Anyways, I think that sounds like a plausible choice -- though, personally, is not how I choose to do things.
  • Teppeii - Dreamweaver
    Teppeii - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,206 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    If you really, really, absolutely just don't have the capacity to farm, then Dragonbow:Nameless is probably the best bet. It's cheap and effective.

    However, if you were willing to invest maybe an hour a day into Nirvana runs once you hit 100, you could have a Heaven Shatterer within a month. Even less actually, considering the profit from selling your Broad Land would help you on your way.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    But low level nirvana only needs 100 rapture crystals?

    Meanwhile, 50 million will buy a nice little stack of crystals.

    But the Nirvana you get has the stats of Dragonbow: Nameless. Oh, and 50,000,000 wouldn't buy you even half of a Nirvana.

    Personally, I was going to get Dragonbow:Nameless on my archer before I rolled a sin. Simply because it's a decent, cheap bow.
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  • Aldryami - Sanctuary
    Aldryami - Sanctuary Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Ok being a casual gamer and have no intention of investing in a Heaven Shatterer, is the Dragon Bow:Nameless a good option to go for?

    I am currently using a +5 Broadland and a +3 Gorenox:Vaniy as my weapons.

    I am a casual player who doesnt make too much money (or have an intention to) nor spends too much time grinding for stuff which obviously does not give a lot of budget to work with b:surrender.

    Looking at the weapon comparison charts developed, I see that the Dragon bow:Nameless has better dps potential than other low budget weapons in the lvl99 nirvana-upgradable group. Additionally it also seems easier to make considering it does not require

    So am guessing this is a good option for me when I hit that level eventually....

    However, I would like the opinions of other experienced archers if there are any other low budget bows that could probably be a better option than this one?



    Just a thought: If you sell your Broadland (15 -18 mil) and sell your gorenox (17-18 mil) you will be pretty close to being able to buy a Heaven Shatterer. Thats what I would do. I would then just improvise my other gear.

    I doubt you need the Gorenox since for them to be any good you need to have a lot of expensive interval gear.
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Thanks for the opinions.

    Perhaps I should explain my situation better

    I could either invest 60 mils+ in a heaven shatterer ....OR.... divert the funds slowly to get

    1.) Ashura Bracers
    2.) Dragon Bow:Nameless or equivalent weapon -> Need opinions on options here
    3.) Ashura Vambraces (After selling my broadland)
    4.) Shards (immaculates) and Refines (atleast +3 for armours and +5 for the bow) for all of them

    Can get 1.) and 2.) and green mats for 3.) in a week or so. The 2 gold mats for 3.) would have to wait till i sell my broadland or hit a jackpot somewhere :P

    In addition, I already have the following as my current equipments
    1.) LG Cape
    2.) +15 STR and DEX tomes (for fist and bow respectively)
    3.) Gorenox: Vanity (Had to sell my bloodmoons to get this + tt90 gold bracers)
    4.) Rank 4 Chest
    5.) TT90 Leggings and boots and tt90 gold bracers

    Once these are done by 100, I can spend sometime in Nirvana daily to slowly get the other equipments like the tt99 gold ornaments, tt99 chest, boots, etc.

    I currently get 2.86 when on demon spark with fists and with the 2 tt99 LAs mentioned above...it would probably put me at 3.0 or very close to it.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Thanks for the opinions.

    Perhaps I should explain my situation better

    I could either invest 60 mils+ in a heaven shatterer ....OR.... divert the funds slowly to get

    1.) Ashura Bracers
    2.) Dragon Bow:Nameless or equivalent weapon -> Need opinions on options here
    3.) Ashura Vambraces (After selling my broadland)
    4.) Shards (immaculates) and Refines (atleast +3 for armours and +5 for the bow) for all of them

    The extra -0.05 interval isn't that useful with a bow. And how can you get to 96 with less than +3 refines?
    Once these are done by 100, I can spend sometime in Nirvana daily to slowly get the other equipments like the tt99 gold ornaments, tt99 chest, boots, etc.

    Um, why the heck would you get the tt99 chest? You do realize that thing costs like 50,000,000?
    I currently get 2.86 when on demon spark with fists and with the 2 tt99 LAs mentioned above...it would probably put me at 3.0 or very close to it.

    ... There is no 3.0 aps. You'll either get 2.86 or 3.33 aps by adding that -0.05.

    What I think you should do is invest whatever the heck you have in merchanting and do that until you have enough to comfortably afford all the stuff you want. Right now, whatever you do you'll just end up crippled in some way: Either you get a half-assed interval fistarcher with a crappy bow, or you get a good bow with crappy refines on a high-level archer.
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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Ok being a casual gamer and have no intention of investing in a Heaven Shatterer, is the Dragon Bow:Nameless a good option to go for?

    I am currently using a +5 Broadland and a +3 Gorenox:Vaniy as my weapons.

    I am a casual player who doesnt make too much money (or have an intention to) nor spends too much time grinding for stuff which obviously does not give a lot of budget to work with b:surrender.

    Looking at the weapon comparison charts developed, I see that the Dragon bow:Nameless has better dps potential than other low budget weapons in the lvl99 nirvana-upgradable group. Additionally it also seems easier to make considering it does not require

    So am guessing this is a good option for me when I hit that level eventually....

    However, I would like the opinions of other experienced archers if there are any other low budget bows that could probably be a better option than this one?


    No ones gonna say its a good endgame weapon lol. But if you're a casual player that just wanna log in to hang out with guild, doing BH etc than any 99 bow will be just fine, including DragonBow: Nameless. Its the least "bad" HH99 weapon anyway. Constellation: Fall is ok to.

    A lot of casual gamers are fine with using HH99 green/gold weapon forever. You dont need anything else really unless you pvp or wanna hardcore farm Nirvana.

    But if you cant even afford a Heaven Shatter how will ever get a Nirvana weapon? Why even mention it, try to be realistic lol. You cant even craft Regenesis Nirvana, the best first cast Nirvana, unless you have a Lunar weapon to start with. First cast Nirvana based on a Dragon Bow sucks, thats like throwing away 200 million.
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    The extra -0.05 interval isn't that useful with a bow. And how can you get to 96 with less than +3 refines?

    By not being a tank and doing only pve stuff b:laugh Jokes apart what I meant was that thats what I can do with the coins i have if I didnt buy the HS. My current gears are either +3 or +4 and have never seen the need for higher refines given that i do not pvp or even TW for that matter. In a strictly PVE situation I found using the right genie at the right time works wonders so never bothered higher than that. For the TT99s however, I will be aiming for +5s atleast over time.

    Um, why the heck would you get the tt99 chest? You do realize that thing costs like 50,000,000? Well frankly I would always have my rank 4 chest, I was planning for the tt99 chest for completion sake but if its going to cost that much...I guess i'll skip it.

    ... There is no 3.0 aps. You'll either get 2.86 or 3.33 aps by adding that -0.05. Thats good to know

    What I think you should do is invest whatever the heck you have in merchanting and do that until you have enough to comfortably afford all the stuff you want. Right now, whatever you do you'll just end up crippled in some way: Either you get a half-assed interval fistarcher with a crappy bow, or you get a good bow with crappy refines on a high-level archer.

    Thanks for the suggestion.


    Well I guess i've summed up my stuff.

    In anycase, looks like the dragonbow:nameless would suffice for casual pve stuff

    Edit:
    @Tiger
    These days I just log on to chat with old friends, do dailies, BH/TT/FC once in a while, etc. I do realize that the first cast of nirvana would be pretty pathetic for the dragonbow but I mentioned it just for progression sake. I doubt I would be here long enough for a nirvana cast :P
  • ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear
    ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    yep u dont need none of that nirvana coin sink bs..these people who run it are mind warped and most of their coin is from selling gold and buying packs..gambling blah blah on a carebear server..jsut get **** to your current lvl..max your skills,use your genie and temamates amps,etc buffs..and bam!!!!!!Nirvana is just a play house for the rich to get richer.

    Then they complain abotu the game getting boring cause waht..they got everything..but in the back of their heads they cant quit because they spent to much in this game lol..this is why the world is F'ed up now
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    @ImReallyWhyt
    I would say to each their own. I have gambled a bit on packs too but alas, I was never lucky b:surrender. All the suggestions provided here are good and its the opinion of some extremely successful high level archers. Whether they got it through packs, gold trading or farming and merchanting is not the issue.

    As far as I can see, the Nirvana instance seems like the only thing for lvl100+ to actually farm on (apart from TT3-xs). On a pve server, thats probably the only thing worth doing apart from maybe talking to your friends. So yea when you do hit that level, what else you got other than improving your equips and having a good coin amount? I have never seen the excitement in TW since the system sounded more like an organized duel between 2 teams than an actual war. Not sure about open map pvps on pve servers. Perhaps some people to roam around in pk mode.

    As far as skills go, I think I've got some of the most important ones, Masteries, Quickshot, Stunning Arrow, Lightning Strike, Frost Arrow, Take Aim, Winged Shell. My next targets are demon barrage and wingspan. And hopefully if my faction takes me on a wave 5 delta run, I could try getting the snowflake soles (boots with 1% crit) if the quest is still active.

    Alas, thanks for your opinion as well :)
  • Teppeii - Dreamweaver
    Teppeii - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,206 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    yep u dont need none of that nirvana coin sink bs..these people who run it are mind warped and most of their coin is from selling gold and buying packs..gambling blah blah on a carebear server..jsut get **** to your current lvl..max your skills,use your genie and temamates amps,etc buffs..and bam!!!!!!Nirvana is just a play house for the rich to get richer.

    Then they complain abotu the game getting boring cause waht..they got everything..but in the back of their heads they cant quit because they spent to much in this game lol..this is why the world is F'ed up now

    This post made me want to tear my eyes out.
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