New classes = more laziness???

Yulk_owns - Lost City
Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
edited November 2010 in General Discussion
Sure, I have my lazy way too, my psy is lvl6. There are lazier players now, I mean people used to pay attention all the time.

Marcos, hercs, nixes, then genies, then 5aps, then attack blessings, what will the expansion bring?

Making caster classes more "useful"?? Like giving them a chance for instant killing spell? I would hate to see if that happens. It would seem like a cash shop way. I rather have things nerfed... If the game gets any easier than now, then what will be the point of playing this game if there are just shortcuts a priority now?

I do want old pw was back the way it was, but it will never happen. More pixel drama, more "lf -inserts cash shopping player here- pm me class and level" People grinding and questing everywhere, now they leave that for BHs. Maxing skills is a real annoyance cause of high spirit costs. People don't AOE anymore?? It is all just "use a zeal" and poke the mob/boss and afk.

I left a game before because of that the fact things were just a solo game, will that leave the same purpose to make things mind numbingly boring?
I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Macros have always been in-game.
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    multicast proc on magic weapons...cast one, hit twice...b:laugh
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  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Sure, I have my lazy way too, my psy is lvl6. There are lazier players now, I mean people used to pay attention all the time.

    Marcos, hercs, nixes, then genies, then 5aps, then attack blessings, what will the expansion bring?

    Making caster classes more "useful"?? Like giving them a chance for instant killing spell? I would hate to see if that happens. It would seem like a cash shop way. I rather have things nerfed... If the game gets any easier than now, then what will be the point of playing this game if there are just shortcuts a priority now?

    I do want old pw was back the way it was, but it will never happen. More pixel drama, more "lf -inserts cash shopping player here- pm me class and level" People grinding and questing everywhere, now they leave that for BHs. Maxing skills is a real annoyance cause of high spirit costs. People don't AOE anymore?? It is all just "use a zeal" and poke the mob/boss and afk.

    I left a game before because of that the fact things were just a solo game, will that leave the same purpose to make things mind numbingly boring?


    Nixes hercs and 5aps have been around since the game was birthed, just 5aps was brought to attention moreso when it became dynamically easier to obtain.
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  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    it's Yulk, no need to say more o.o
    I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender

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  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Nixes hercs and 5aps have been around since the game was birthed, just 5aps was brought to attention moreso when it became dynamically easier to obtain.

    5aps never existed, back then, not even genies, I guess you began playing here when anni packs were around.

    I was here when hotkeys were so few. I had no idea about marcos, it would have been more nice if i was here since 2008.
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Nixes and Hercs werent introduced until the Lost Empire expansion but I think they existed in other versions of the game before that. I've heard rumors of a legendary water pet called a God Turtle or something but havent found any real information about that.
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  • DeadSound - Lost City
    DeadSound - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I do want old pw was back the way it was, but it will never happen.

    We'll mr.pro you can, in a way which cannot be discussed via forums.
    5aps never existed, back then, not even genies, I guess you began playing here when anni packs were around.

    I was here when hotkeys were so few. I had no idea about marcos, it would have been more nice if i was here since 2008.

    5aps has always existed it was just damn near impossible until recently.

    I dont see how genies are making things easier though, you ake it seem like making an effective genie is easy and cheap. Genies could be considered a godsend for most classes, i mean casters finally had a way to counter nix bleed. And melee fighters had a chance to do some magical damage and visa versa.
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    5aps never existed, back then, not even genies, I guess you began playing here when anni packs were around.

    It did.
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  • tiggy217
    tiggy217 Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Genies do something other then fly around your head.b:chuckle I don't bother using my genies skills. They are just a pretty accessory.b:cute
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    It did.

    shush, pro yulk is talking.
  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    It did.

    I'm not quite so sure. If i'm wrong then i'm wrong, i'm just curious, but can you build a 5.0 APS fist user, WITHOUT scroll of tome/script of fate tome, or anything from Nirvana? Basically limiting yourself to frost, lunar, TT99 (& below), and rank gear up to 8.
  • Susylu - Heavens Tear
    Susylu - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,786 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    If the game gets any easier than now, then what will be the point of playing this game if there are just shortcuts a priority now?

    What point is there to play any game but to have fun/waste time and maybe money with it? If the shortcuts somehow hinder your experience of the game, perhaps this game is no longer the game for you.

    Then again I am a pretty lazy person xD!

    I left a game before because of that the fact things were just a solo game, will that leave the same purpose to make things mind numbingly boring?

    Adding to my reply from the first quote, most people that complain about these "shortcuts" stay because they have friends here and it's something to do. So no, I'd hardly think pwi is built on being a "solo" type game.
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    5 aps was only available to archers :>
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    only with rank8

    how are u going to get 200k reputation without tokens?
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    only with rank8

    how are u going to get 200k reputation without tokens?

    In the old days:

    Farm stamps from fb99 Hell

    Now:

    Farm trophy mode fb99 Heaven
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    it's Yulk, no need to say more o.o

    +1
    shush, pro yulk is talking.

    +1

    Why we even reply ? b:shocked b:shocked
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    only with rank8

    how are u going to get 200k reputation without tokens?

    It was still possible before anni packs, very hard but still possible. Any other char was maxed at 3.33 sparked.
    In the old days:

    Farm stamps from fb99 Hell

    Now:

    Farm trophy mode fb99 Heaven

    We never had stamps past fb59 on this version.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    We never had stamps past fb59 on this version.

    Ah...wasn't aware if you guys did or not.
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  • DeLetar - Sanctuary
    DeLetar - Sanctuary Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    They took those stamps out because they dropped like candy. It wasn't unheard of to get 200k reputation in about a year.

    Before packs, there was still Twilight Temple [99], Lunarglade and level 5 tomes. You could still make interval equipment with old Heaven's Tear manufacturing. There was still demon sparking as well.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    They took those stamps out because they dropped like candy. It wasn't unheard of to get 200k reputation in about a year.

    Tasty little blue candy. A veno friend and I were going to farm fb99 Hell for rep. Day after we first started, we got the patch that took out the stamp drops there. QQ.
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  • DeLetar - Sanctuary
    DeLetar - Sanctuary Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    That sucks. Trophy mode, though, if you have the leader take all, you can easily get 600 rep a run. However, everyone has to agree to it.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    That sucks. Trophy mode, though, if you have the leader take all, you can easily get 600 rep a run. However, everyone has to agree to it.

    I'm aware. I'm not really hunting 8jun on this version though.

    Still gonna farm those tm cloaks however.
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    5aps never existed, back then, not even genies, I guess you began playing here when anni packs were around.

    I was here when hotkeys were so few. I had no idea about marcos, it would have been more nice if i was here since 2008.

    5aps was always there whin PWI started, its just that nobody knew how 5aps or if its even possible to even get 5aps so everyone just use a pure Axe BM build during that time.

    Eventually someone found out how 5aps works and now everyone uses it today.

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  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    5aps was always there whin PWI started, its just that nobody knew how 5aps or if its even possible to even get 5aps so everyone just use a pure Axe BM build during that time.

    Eventually someone found out how 5aps works and now everyone uses it today.


    Already been discussed in this thread. 5aps didnt exist back then. Scroll of Tome/Script of Fate Tomes didnt exist, nor did Nirvana gear. It was possible for an archer to reach 5aps (with every possible -Int gear there is) due to the rank 8 chest. No other class could actually reach 5aps sparked.
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Sure, I have my lazy way too, my psy is lvl6. There are lazier players now, I mean people used to pay attention all the time.

    Marcos, hercs, nixes, then genies, then 5aps, then attack blessings, what will the expansion bring?

    Making caster classes more "useful"?? Like giving them a chance for instant killing spell? I would hate to see if that happens. It would seem like a cash shop way. I rather have things nerfed... If the game gets any easier than now, then what will be the point of playing this game if there are just shortcuts a priority now?

    I do want old pw was back the way it was, but it will never happen. More pixel drama, more "lf -inserts cash shopping player here- pm me class and level" People grinding and questing everywhere, now they leave that for BHs. Maxing skills is a real annoyance cause of high spirit costs. People don't AOE anymore?? It is all just "use a zeal" and poke the mob/boss and afk.

    I left a game before because of that the fact things were just a solo game, will that leave the same purpose to make things mind numbingly boring?

    I stopped reading there. How can there be people too lazy to get to level 6? I can get to level 6 in my sleep.

    Stop trolling mang.
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  • Cun - Lost City
    Cun - Lost City Posts: 685 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I stopped reading there. How can there be people too lazy to get to level 6? I can get to level 6 in my sleep.

    Stop trolling mango.

    Fixed b:chuckle

    Sorry had to do it.
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  • Must - Lost City
    Must - Lost City Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Does Yulk knows Demon E.A??
  • Kataguruma - Harshlands
    Kataguruma - Harshlands Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Sure, I have my lazy way too, my psy is lvl6. There are lazier players now, I mean people used to pay attention all the time.

    Marcos, hercs, nixes, then genies, then 5aps, then attack blessings, what will the expansion bring?

    Making caster classes more "useful"?? Like giving them a chance for instant killing spell? I would hate to see if that happens. It would seem like a cash shop way. I rather have things nerfed... If the game gets any easier than now, then what will be the point of playing this game if there are just shortcuts a priority now?

    I do want old pw was back the way it was, but it will never happen. More pixel drama, more "lf -inserts cash shopping player here- pm me class and level" People grinding and questing everywhere, now they leave that for BHs. Maxing skills is a real annoyance cause of high spirit costs. People don't AOE anymore?? It is all just "use a zeal" and poke the mob/boss and afk.

    I left a game before because of that the fact things were just a solo game, will that leave the same purpose to make things mind numbingly boring?

    I don't think any of your argument proves that someone using 5 aps macros and other is lazier than someone not using these tools. I think they only try to use the best tool for the right situation.
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Already been discussed in this thread. 5aps didnt exist back then. Scroll of Tome/Script of Fate Tomes didnt exist, nor did Nirvana gear. It was possible for an archer to reach 5aps (with every possible -Int gear there is) due to the rank 8 chest. No other class could actually reach 5aps sparked.

    anyone else amused by this?

    5 aps existed for archers from the begining

    after trophy mode capes and easy lunar where added 5 aps would be possible for bm's/barbs with -.15 arms (good luck winning the lottery there)

    so it was possible pre packs if only barely
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    anyone else amused by this?

    5 aps existed for archers from the begining

    after trophy mode capes and easy lunar where added 5 aps would be possible for bm's/barbs with -.15 arms (good luck winning the lottery there)

    so it was possible pre packs if only barely

    Then again the amount of people with TT100 weapons and Rank 8s was pretty much single digit pre-packs.

    The amount of people with TT100 weapons, Rank 8 and spare TT100s... Probably <3.
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