Is it a solo game?
hentaibeast
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First of all, I apologies for my lousy Englishb:surrender
I'm new to the game, just downloaded it, and there is a thing I really want to know:
If I 1)Newbie 2)Have no intention of paying real money (not until I make sure i can manage without it and I really like the game), so no hyper exping, will I be able to party with someone regularly from early levels?
What I mean is not to chat with someone who got bored while playing his alt, but to actually play together for the common benefit every day. Also, is there such a thing as const party here? (A group of players, usually pvp-oriented, always all in the same clan with all usefull buffs and roles, who constantly play together at the same time of the day).
Actually I quit playing la2 free shards because there were dualboxes and people preferred to exp solo, so I want to know if it's worth playing for a long time, not just to do quests for a week and forget about my account.
Please do not answer like "You sure bound to find someone to play with if you're a nice person and really try", what I'm asking is "Is it common to easily find a random party if I'm a poor nub?"
Sorru for double post i was pressing "prewiev" buttun, or it seemed(
I'm new to the game, just downloaded it, and there is a thing I really want to know:
If I 1)Newbie 2)Have no intention of paying real money (not until I make sure i can manage without it and I really like the game), so no hyper exping, will I be able to party with someone regularly from early levels?
What I mean is not to chat with someone who got bored while playing his alt, but to actually play together for the common benefit every day. Also, is there such a thing as const party here? (A group of players, usually pvp-oriented, always all in the same clan with all usefull buffs and roles, who constantly play together at the same time of the day).
Actually I quit playing la2 free shards because there were dualboxes and people preferred to exp solo, so I want to know if it's worth playing for a long time, not just to do quests for a week and forget about my account.
Please do not answer like "You sure bound to find someone to play with if you're a nice person and really try", what I'm asking is "Is it common to easily find a random party if I'm a poor nub?"
Sorru for double post i was pressing "prewiev" buttun, or it seemed(
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1. Everyone is a newbie once
2. good idea (You will not hyper till 80)
Yes, it is very well possible to find parties for everything without paying, as the good (and expensive) gear will mostly be like 80+.
Nobody will talk bad to you in case you walk around with quest gear at level 60
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Also, join Sanctuary server.Feel free to PM me for help.
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Yes, you can find some people. True, there r a lot of hyper alts and all, but if you want, you can. There's always some factions for low lvl and you can squad with them to move from the low lvls towards the higher ones, np. Also, if you wanna PvP, DON'T join Sanctuary. PvP servers are Lost City and Harshlands. The rest is PvE.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Technically farming is easier than when I started almost a year and a half ago. But that's at higher levels.
Lower levels are relatively miserable unless you fork over real cash. Gold prices are at 600K on HT, and I don't think it's much better, if at all, elsewhere. Was slightly under 100K when I started. Not that I like the "when I started" **** but today's PWI is far less friendly to non-paying players than before, where PWI is intent on making non-paying players work harder and harder for the same amount of coin. Add onto that most good things cost a lot more, and the game became slightly less fun and friendly toward non-paying players.0 -
I'd say it is fairly common to find a party with people that share the same quest / quest objectives as you do. Such as killing the same boss / mobs.
However finding constant parties is a little bit more difficult, but not uncommon either. Most people party with 2 - 3 people daily at some point and with a lot more people on a less regular basis. This is especially true in factions.
In Bushido we have a baby faction libushido, while they cannot get to our faction chat and such, we do give them vent access and forum access and this way they get to be a part of our community as a whole, even if libushido itself only had 1, or 2 people online, they still have someone to contact to and ask for help if needed and to just talk with otherwise. Not sure how this sort of thing is handled elsewhere, but that's how we do it.
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it's easy to find people around your level to play with, and instance dungeons are all but soloable unless you're doing a low instance at a high level, or if you're a herc veno.
so getting into a party/squad is encouraged in this game. factions make forming parties easier because the faction you're in should have people around your level in it.
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hehe, GL trying to solo with no $$$, most of the game in instances are not solo-able unless you spend an ungodly amount of money on a bm. If you want to play a solo-mmorpg, I came out from one of those games because it was mind-numbingly boring.I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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well till lvl 40 you will play kinda solo. you can always invite in squad people that kill same monsters as you to finish quest faster, get buffs and have fun.
at lvl 40 you will get bounty hunter quest where you have to get squad and kill boss in dungeon. can easy form squad in archosaur, if you find good players invite them to friendlist, soon you will have many people in friendlist to party with and do dungeons together. as bounty hunter quest gives tons of exp then normal quests usually stack up. in same bounty hunter quest if u see players close to ur level u can ask them do they wanna quest together and finish those quests in short time
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also at level 60 there is twilight temple dungeon where people go farm materials for weapons and gears, its also a party instance and won't be hard to find people who wanna go.
really only thing what people do solo in this game is questing/grinding, but its boring to do solo
and it doesn't matter if you cash shop or not. you can trade dragon points into event gold, you can buy gold with ingame money too.0 -
Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »hehe, GL trying to solo with no $$$, most of the game in instances are not solo-able unless you spend an ungodly amount of money on a bm. If you want to play a solo-mmorpg, I came out from one of those games because it was mind-numbingly boring.
i really dont see why every1 beleives that you NEED to spend $$$ to play this game effectivly. ive never spent a single $ on this game and i play it just fine. all things that can be bought with cash are also availible from in game by purchasing them from other characters.
this game is possible to play solo and with other people. its not uncommon when your killing enemies that other people killing the same enemies will squad with you and often those squads last into quests after the one you squaded for, at low levels there are usually 1-4 people in the same area as you doing the same quest so you can just squad with them. the caves(instances) such as fb/bh are soloable if you want to but this is easier on certain characters as the mobs hit hard and you dont have much hp or elemental or phys res at the start of the game(charms may also be required for some caves if you solo) and its simpler just to get a squad to help you with them.
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/Fox - Harshlands wrote: »i really dont see why every1 beleives that you NEED to spend $$$ to play this game effectivly. ive never spent a single $ on this game and i play it just fine. all things that can be bought with cash are also availible from in game by purchasing them from other characters.
this game is possible to play solo and with other people. its not uncommon when your killing enemies that other people killing the same enemies will squad with you and often those squads last into quests after the one you squaded for, at low levels there are usually 1-4 people in the same area as you doing the same quest so you can just squad with them. the caves(instances) such as fb/bh are soloable if you want to but this is easier on certain characters as the mobs hit hard and you dont have much hp or elemental or phys res at the start of the game(charms may also be required for some caves if you solo) and its simpler just to get a squad to help you with them.
good luck and hope you enjoy the game
Playing the game effectively as a team, soloing is on a different playing field. How can you solo even FB29 with a lvl29 char without using $$$ (charm is a boutique item, regardless btw)?? You can solo mobs and solo certain bosses, but who solos FBs besides venoes? Even venoes do not really solo FB.I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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No, PWI unfortunately is an extremely anti-social mmo. The only real teamwork-based factions I've ever been in are well-organised endgame ones, like large TW factions. Most players like to keep to themselves or run instances that heavily benefit themselves in terms of exp or coin. The majority go AFK in west arch, randomly duel, or stand and chat about how bored they are.
If you're looking for people to quest with, get used to hearing "no, you'll nerf my exp" or "gtfo, I need all my drops" or just "...." silence.
If you're looking for help with a boss, good factions can be fairly decent about it, but it can sometimes take days at a time to find help.
If you want to take down a world boss, an instance or try something fun or new get prepared to hear "no, too difficult" or "rubbish drops, just charm ****" or "no cleric/barb" or "in BH/FCC sorry"
In fact, if you're looking to do anything at all in a group, get prepared to hear "No sorry, in FCC/BH". Then again, FCC and BH are party based, so you could spam that all day like everyone else seems to.0 -
veno can solo fb29 only at lvl 53 unless have a herc, but even then its impossible to solo it at lvl 29.
herc veno can solo fb19, fb59, fb79(not sure about higher level ones) at their levels, for the rest they need squads or overlvl fb. even with overlvling dungeon veno still wont be able to do fb69 without tank and cleric0 -
_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »No, PWI unfortunately is an extremely anti-social mmo. The only real teamwork-based factions I've ever been in are well-organised endgame ones, like large TW factions. Most players like to keep to themselves or run instances that heavily benefit themselves in terms of exp or coin. The majority go AFK in west arch, randomly duel, or stand and chat about how bored they are.
If you're looking for people to quest with, get used to hearing "no, you'll nerf my exp" or "gtfo, I need all my drops" or just "...." silence.
If you're looking for help with a boss, good factions can be fairly decent about it, but it can sometimes take days at a time to find help.
If you want to take down a world boss, an instance or try something fun or new get prepared to hear "no, too difficult" or "rubbish drops, just charm ****" or "no cleric/barb" or "in BH/FCC sorry"
In fact, if you're looking to do anything at all in a group, get prepared to hear "No sorry, in FCC/BH". Then again, FCC and BH are party based, so you could spam that all day like everyone else seems to.
Agree with you,90% of ppls (at least on HT server) are greedy\selfish...0 -
So, as far as I understand the game itself (I didn't read about its mechanics much) does not encourage players to stick together? Like a great exp bonus for big party, or when you simply cannot exp efficiently if you're alone on high levels or when there are so much of pvp (for pvp servers) that it's better to help someone level and make a good consts (better for not sucking all the time, I mean)... It's really disappointing, seems I'm gonna after all level up to 50, get some basic gear, kill (and be killed) a lot for a couple of days and than quit .
Just to make it clear: there are two, no 3 characters say, lv 60. for instance cleric, dagger, barbarian. All poor (compared to paying players). They know how to play and how to exp solo and make money.
Attention! The question: If they play as a group from lv 60 to lv 100 will it make EACH of them, separately, stronger? (by stronger I mean pvp, not necessarily levels only, but overall strength (obviously, if you're 2 levels lower but 2 times richer you're stronger).0 -
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_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »No, PWI unfortunately is an extremely anti-social mmo. The only real teamwork-based factions I've ever been in are well-organised endgame ones, like large TW factions. Most players like to keep to themselves or run instances that heavily benefit themselves in terms of exp or coin. The majority go AFK in west arch, randomly duel, or stand and chat about how bored they are.
If you're looking for people to quest with, get used to hearing "no, you'll nerf my exp" or "gtfo, I need all my drops" or just "...." silence.
If you're looking for help with a boss, good factions can be fairly decent about it, but it can sometimes take days at a time to find help.
If you want to take down a world boss, an instance or try something fun or new get prepared to hear "no, too difficult" or "rubbish drops, just charm ****" or "no cleric/barb" or "in BH/FCC sorry"
In fact, if you're looking to do anything at all in a group, get prepared to hear "No sorry, in FCC/BH". Then again, FCC and BH are party based, so you could spam that all day like everyone else seems to.
I remember from that other game, in PW is a lot more rare to me, (if it is a lot to you) worst of all, even non-cash shoppers can solo the 90% of that game... A lot of people were REALLY selfish there.Siuki - Dreamweaver wrote: »veno can solo fb29 only at lvl 53 unless have a herc, but even then its impossible to solo it at lvl 29.
herc veno can solo fb19, fb59, fb79(not sure about higher level ones) at their levels, for the rest they need squads or overlvl fb. even with overlvling dungeon veno still wont be able to do fb69 without tank and cleric
Well actually, veno can solo their own BH at 43 with a glacial walker (mobs) and a eldergoth marksman (Qingzi), I think boost would give the edge, but it would take long though, but still.Agree with you,90% of ppls (at least on HT server) are greedy\selfish...
Lol, go on LC and check AH. A lvl 37 crappy 3 star cloak for 50-70k, no different from LC... I would hate to see HL server since HL is a fail server anyway.I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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this game does encourage people to stick together, but for weird reason not many does it. i used to have friends with who i did bh daily together and we did tt, fc, rb, fbs together. there r tons of instances that require parties and its more fun to do together. but well, they overlvled me or quitted game, some couldn't keep up with our lvling speed. basically you need to constantly find more people for your group and you have to better playing your class than others or you will end up alone. if you don't plan to cash shop then better make friends with non cash shop players, cuz it is really hard to keep up with them.0
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Hahah, the thing is how the hell do I become good at playing my class in party, if i don't have one from the early levels on?b:laugh It would be to late to learn how to play a cleric when you're 60+ and death of your comrades matters.0
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The problem is the game design make people cares more about money than doing everything together.
It actually a nice thing to do things together, but it cut the income, mob drops is not always fair in instances, and even if we can progress quickly by do many things together the money problems will stop the progress.
But maybe it's a good thing to have friends who play various class to create permanent squad that always do everything together, even if they died a lot because of it.
Some people going to say what they do is stupid, but that actually a good thing since a permanent squad really playing the game instead of thing it as a work.
Permanent squad become really use full at later lv where most high lv player doesn't want to help you practice in hard instances, because they worry if you going to make them screwed.
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Just look for a fun faction that invites players, and not lvls you will most of the time find people there of all lvls.
There will be people with the same quests or people that may want to help
Also they usually teach the people of lower lvl. I joined that kind of faction myself when I just started playing and could ask everything that bothered me. Like what skills should I learn, how do I lure mobs and when and what is my role in a party
I know joined another one of those factions ^^ friendly people, lower and higher lvls and loads of fun [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Well, I don't know. I thought that first leveling fast than kinda stop and start making money on high lvls will get you richer more quickly than trying to gain as much as you can when lv is low. Besides having full buff and decent heal could compensate for not the best equipment. Besides I took a look at skills and see that many of them add damage, not just multiple base dmg, so it's should'nt be impossible to level up with VERY bad weapons (slowly, but not like you're not progressing at all).
Sigh, as far as I get from your answers (and thanks for them btw) the situation is completely the same as in la2(boring game, btw): people can level and farm easily solo, they got used to it and even if they say they would prefer a more merry play, they will not couse they kinda locked in their own greed and monotonous habit (even I experienced that to some extent). Also there was a huge myth that you must have "a" class weapons and armor on lv 65+ or you would exp so slowly, it would be meaningless. The same people then wondered at people how understand the real situation and called them cheaters. (Those few formed const squads from the very beginning, gave priority to lv, no equip, were at the dame 65 lv in "c", not "a", and only when they were high lv they concentrated more on money making, also they practiced trust and gave money to dd first.) The greedy an d stingy egoists than were TOTALLY owned by the few organized groups who were the core of leading clans and alliances. Am I right?b:victory0 -
hentaibeast wrote: »The greedy an d stingy egoists than were TOTALLY owned by the few organized groups who were the core of leading clans and alliances. Am I right?b:victory
I am not good on explaining . . but i think what you said is kinda right but kinda not easy to pull here
If after genesis i didn't find something interesting, i will play other game . .
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Having all buffs possible with a majestic healing skill will enable you to kill 1 mob in about 1 minute in 79 as a lv 98 cleric. It's doable, but not exactly smart, since in 79 there are.... who knows how many mobs when unwined.
The point is, you cannot really do anything in this game solo. Unless you're a sin with a ungodly APS.0 -
I have to speak up.
u can solo the game for free but will take a VERY LONG TIME.
cult quests at higher levels are impossible without help and certain places a soloist can't even get into. u can solo TT but only half way, than the door is closed to u as a soloist.
pick a long term goal and go for it. u can grind the entire game and work on your manufacturing skills, u will need it. My goal,as a soloist, is to get all level 80TT gear with the best in game pets at my level.
Free to play is nice BUT the game needs to live on. At least spend some money on a good flying mount.
I tried to do the faction thing and a good one to get into is Diamonds but my game time is very limited and i am a very impatient man. i squad than kill, get everything in your live done before squading, than get the job done.
Thanks to all in diamonds that helped me out. u guys are great but i am a man not a lady.
I don't know where that came from but i should have stopped it but so many dudes loved my veno so much. o well
fight the good fight, and goodnight.b:thanks[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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